RE: Renaultsport Clio 200 price confirmed
Discussion
Technomatt said:
roystinho said:
Selling out for sales, they need to. They're a business after all. How many RS Meganes did they sell last year? How many Clio 200s do you see on the road?
You never know, if they can shift a load of these then maybe they can develop something a little more special...
Rumour has it there's a 3dr coming in a coupe sort of form, just not badged 'Clio' anyway. Surely a RS one of those might be more 'PH'
This is only a modified RS version of the new Clio, right? Missed opportunities. No Brembo brakes, no Recaros, no manual option (the 6 speed manual is already on the same engine in the Nissan Juke), no base spec cheap/lighter Cup etc. You never know, if they can shift a load of these then maybe they can develop something a little more special...
Rumour has it there's a 3dr coming in a coupe sort of form, just not badged 'Clio' anyway. Surely a RS one of those might be more 'PH'
They could have developed the RS brand to pull in more sales and appeal to those buyers that may want the all those latest fancy toys (artificial piped engine noise...) whilst also not alienating the previous customer base. They should have extended the appeal, not reduce it or shift it.
They are now seriously in danger of shooting themselves in the foot due to money being wasted on the non core electric business. Wasted opportunity.
I like it. However, I won't be buying one as my fun car like previous RS's I've owned, but as a quick little family car for the Mrs it could work.
Also, lets hope as in previous generations of the RS Clio, the first one isn't the best version and they always bring out better offerings later. I've seen somewhere that Recaros will be offered in the not so distant future. Lets see
Technomatt said:
Is the Pug coming back to form?
This new 208 Gti looks so much better than the poorly resolved, bug-eyed 5 door Clio 200T:
Personally i think 208's look terrible. The font looks squashed, and there is something very wrong with the rear 3/4's, the proportions of the whole car don't work in my eyes.This new 208 Gti looks so much better than the poorly resolved, bug-eyed 5 door Clio 200T:
framerateuk said:
nickfrog said:
Well at last it's not a diesel...
My sentiments exactly.It's hard to genuinely accept someone's opinion like that when they're driving round in a diesel Civic...
Dullard.
HighwayStar said:
Podie said:
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k me, is it value judgement day on PH? Since when was the amount of driving you do a prerequisite for being a PHer? Still, I ran a modified Chimaera 450 for over 2 years as an only car for 32,500 miles in all weathers - does that meet your own "worthy of PH" criteria?
Yes, Monday to Friday all I do is drive to the station and back. Sadly, that's how I pay the bills. Work is 120 miles away and the train is the best method of getting there.
If you'd actually bothered to read what you've quoted, I clearly said I haven't bought a new car for a decade. Strangely i don't idly sit looking at the price of vehicles, it's not my idea of a good time, but each to their own.
fk me, PH used to be about being a petrol head. One thread, with an opinion expressing surprise and its value judgement central.
If you'd actually bothered to read what I wrote, I said for someone who has posted 38000 times, obviously spends time on PH, I don't know how you fail to notice the general price of cars.k me, is it value judgement day on PH? Since when was the amount of driving you do a prerequisite for being a PHer? Still, I ran a modified Chimaera 450 for over 2 years as an only car for 32,500 miles in all weathers - does that meet your own "worthy of PH" criteria?Yes, Monday to Friday all I do is drive to the station and back. Sadly, that's how I pay the bills. Work is 120 miles away and the train is the best method of getting there.
If you'd actually bothered to read what you've quoted, I clearly said I haven't bought a new car for a decade. Strangely i don't idly sit looking at the price of vehicles, it's not my idea of a good time, but each to their own.
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k me, PH used to be about being a petrol head. One thread, with an opinion expressing surprise and its value judgement central. Of course you work, car enthusiast work... Some will have daily drives the double as family ferry, shopping trolly, station car or take them to their place of work but they will still be properly driven when the time comes... The long way home, weekend blasts whatever, all in the same car...
HighwayStar said:
If that's all the driving you do, why are you here?
... and you're surprised by a forthright response?I'm interested in what the reviewer says about how it drives, how it handles, how it feels - I have no interest in the price of cars, hence I am genuinely surprised that in the decade since I last bought a new car, the price has virtually doubled.
Technomatt said:
And we care about this why?
Podie said:
HighwayStar said:
Podie said:
fk me, is it value judgement day on PH? Since when was the amount of driving you do a prerequisite for being a PHer? Still, I ran a modified Chimaera 450 for over 2 years as an only car for 32,500 miles in all weathers - does that meet your own "worthy of PH" criteria?
Yes, Monday to Friday all I do is drive to the station and back. Sadly, that's how I pay the bills. Work is 120 miles away and the train is the best method of getting there.
If you'd actually bothered to read what you've quoted, I clearly said I haven't bought a new car for a decade. Strangely i don't idly sit looking at the price of vehicles, it's not my idea of a good time, but each to their own.
fk me, PH used to be about being a petrol head. One thread, with an opinion expressing surprise and its value judgement central.
If you'd actually bothered to read what I wrote, I said for someone who has posted 38000 times, obviously spends time on PH, I don't know how you fail to notice the general price of cars.k me, is it value judgement day on PH? Since when was the amount of driving you do a prerequisite for being a PHer? Still, I ran a modified Chimaera 450 for over 2 years as an only car for 32,500 miles in all weathers - does that meet your own "worthy of PH" criteria?Yes, Monday to Friday all I do is drive to the station and back. Sadly, that's how I pay the bills. Work is 120 miles away and the train is the best method of getting there.
If you'd actually bothered to read what you've quoted, I clearly said I haven't bought a new car for a decade. Strangely i don't idly sit looking at the price of vehicles, it's not my idea of a good time, but each to their own.
f
k me, PH used to be about being a petrol head. One thread, with an opinion expressing surprise and its value judgement central. Of course you work, car enthusiast work... Some will have daily drives the double as family ferry, shopping trolly, station car or take them to their place of work but they will still be properly driven when the time comes... The long way home, weekend blasts whatever, all in the same car...
HighwayStar said:
If that's all the driving you do, why are you here?
... and you're surprised by a forthright response?I'm interested in what the reviewer says about how it drives, how it handles, how it feels - I have no interest in the price of cars, hence I am genuinely surprised that in the decade since I last bought a new car, the price has virtually doubled.
Anyway... You're genuinely stumped at the price of new cars... Fair enough. We move on.
I'd have the new Fiesta ST or 208 GTI over this, then again I'd still rather have my Abarth 500 Esseesse or a Clio 200 over all three. I remember pricing a Clio 200 to my spec and it was only £17.8k including the Recaros. Chose the Abarth over it as it cost less over 3 years, was more exclusive and better for day to day use. Clio 200 is a future classic, everytime I see one I wish I bought one. New Clio is hideous, like a mini MPV gone wrong
Technomatt said:
hoban81 said:
19k that.
2.5K bought Saturday, loving it... again
Is the Pug coming back to form? that.2.5K bought Saturday, loving it... again
This new 208 Gti looks so much better than the poorly resolved, bug-eyed 5 door Clio 200T:
If they get damping right with that revy engine from RCZ it could represent serious challenge to Clio.
Friggerpants said:
j_s14a said:
What an awful car.
Ford are doing something very wrong if the Fiesta doesn't hugely outsell this monstrosity. Waiting in earnest for the road test, but I just can't see how an automatic is going to make a good hot hatch.
Are Renault up sh** creek with two flappy paddles?
I know, right? Ford are doing something very wrong if the Fiesta doesn't hugely outsell this monstrosity. Waiting in earnest for the road test, but I just can't see how an automatic is going to make a good hot hatch.
Are Renault up sh** creek with two flappy paddles?
I just can't see how an flappy paddled car can make a good F1 car either.
Retard.
Is an F1 car a hot hatch?
I suggest you try driving a hot hatch Mr Retard. (is that your surname?)
Podie said:
I am genuinely surprised that in the decade since I last bought a new car, the price has virtually doubled.
How can it have doubled when it has actually gone down in real terms ?And that's not even taking account where prices should be if manufacturers had kept up with £/€ which has gone massively against us over the past five years, by the tune of 20%.
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