RE: Toyota GT86: PH Carpool

[300bhp/ton]

mrtwisty said:

Escort Si-130 said:

Its also about the aerodynamics, its not always about the outdated cliché of bhp per tonne.

mrtwisty said:

Luuuurvly. Seeing more and more of these on the roads and I for one love the styling.

Surprised an EP3 CTR is noticeably quicker in a straight line... isnt the power to weight ratio almost the same?

... because of course a breadvan Civic is much more aerodynamically efficient than a sleek coupe....

As a couple of others have said, PtW isn't everything but at 'normal' road speeds, when comparing 'normal' cars, it remains the most useful measure I know of.

Aerodynamic isn't just about drag, it's to do with frontal area too. i.e. a house brick has far worse aerodynamics than a jumbo jet. But when hurled through the air it only has to move a fraction of the air out of the way.

[mrtwisty]

Oh wonderful, the Prof. is back....


Im out.

[LordGrover]

FWIW my own mini-review here: CLICK.

[chopper602]

Richyboy said:

And pearl white is the best colour.

I think you'll find dark grey is the best colour

[chopper602]

LordGrover said:

I fitted Nexen winter tyres last year and didn't haven't a moment's grief. Pretty sure-footed with the right tyres.

Ditto with Hankooks

[anonymous-user]

mrtwisty said:

Oh wonderful, the Prof. is back....


Im out.

Please do update the thread..or maybe start another. Lots of us are actually interested in the car!

[otolith]

LuS1fer said:

I love the idea and concept of the GT86 but hate the styling. The last Celica looked far better.

Really? I thought the last gen Celica looked awkward - very obviously front-drive, horrid overhangs and surfacing that didn't really work for me.



If I had to have a Celica, I still have a soft spot for this generation;

[LuS1fer]

otolith said:

Really? I thought the last gen Celica looked awkward - very obviously front-drive, horrid overhangs and surfacing that didn't really work for me.

If I had to have a Celica, I still have a soft spot for this generation;

Still smart though. The original Celica was best and never really improved upon. The one you like is like a sucked pastille.

[LordGrover]

Look at his profile picture to put his taste in perspective...

[otolith]

LuS1fer said:

Still smart though. The original Celica was best and never really improved upon. The one you like is like a sucked pastille.

From here, 1st and 5th generations for me.

http://blog.toyota.co.uk/the-toyota-celica-history

I think the GT86 shares more styling cues with the 1st gen Celica than the 7th gen does.

[nickfrog]

Now that the GT86 has quickly reached its "natural price point" of £20k with leather and sometimes even sat nav (albeit a few months and a few thousand miles down the line) it IS actually good VFM imo and will be worth considering for me in about 18 months time at £15k. I can't wait.

[Zed Ed]

chopper602 said:

I think you'll find dark grey is the best colour

I see what you are doing there

My longtermer, with the correct colour and no re-branding.

[yahtzee]

Ive had mine a year and its just a fun car, the modifications available are mind boggling, i wouldn't go back.

Best out on some twisty road or track.

[Jerome92]

Just waiting some price dropping... arghhh

[My Evil Twin]

Zed Ed said:

I see what you are doing there

My longtermer, with the correct colour and no re-branding.

vote, there is mine and you can have it

[Dunk130TC]

forzaminardi said:

Dunk, is that lowered in some way? It looks a little more 'mean' than the usual BRZ/GT.

I have to admit, having gone off them a bit at launch, mainly due to disinterest from a Toyota dealer, I am now very much back 'on' these. I hope soon to have a bit more cash in my pocket so who knows...?

Nope, totally standard, suspect the ground based shot helps

[vsonix]

moskvich427 said:

M@1975 said:

Urgh, lack of proof reading made that pretty horrible as a reader experience... Nice car though.

This. Had to re-read some parts just to figure out the meaning!

Apparently he's marrying another bloke! Oooh! (Fiancé/Fiancée)

[MadDog1962]

300bhp/ton said:

I really like these. In fact think they are fantastic and will certainly be on the radar in a number of years time, once they have done most of their depreciation.

However for this budget I simply couldn't opt for a Toyota, not when you could have something like this:


Mondial T (1993) £21,995
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...



1985 Ferrari Mondial 3.0 Coupe Petrol Manual (1985) £14,995
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/f...
[img]http://img.pistonheads.com.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/Fullsize/ferrari/mondial/3-0-coupe/ferrari-mondial-3-0-coupe-10814482-1.

Ok it might cost a bit more to run, but I'm willing to bet in 5 years time it'll have held on to its money very well, while the Toyota won't have. On this basis alone I suspect 'total cost of ownership' may be rather similar.

Errr... Just one significant mechanical failure and you'll very likely be crying in your beer.

I love the look of these Ferraris but as others have pointed out they're not that fast by today's standards, and the spares will cost an arm and a leg.

[ZesPak]

20k for this toyota?

Stretch your budget a bit and you could have a LAMBORGHINI:


http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...

Or this maserati:


Or this MR2 that is made to look like a Ferrari:




On topic: great car, isn't my colour but it would be deffo be on my short list.

As for 300bhp, should we call some services to have him restrained as I think he went over the edge today. (he was always a bit... you know... but the Ferrari post made me worry)

Edited by ZesPak on Wednesday 18th September 13:44

[otolith]

Or one of these, you might even be able to get one in white for that budget;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lincolnshire/34...