RE: VW Tiguan R testing
Discussion
Burwood said:
The boot on the Golf R is tiny. The GTi is marginally better. The Tiguan is very good. I still want a bigger boot. 700L+
No problem - VW Tiguan Allspace. Or get your missus a Skoda Kodiaq!I love the idea of Tiguan R but if you got through tyres quickly on the existing Tiguan then imagine how quickly they'll will wear out on the R
A colleague in Germany has an SQ5 and I thought it was completely awesome - but I genuinely don't know what you'd do with a car like that here. You're buying performance potential, I guess. Trying to use it would be very hazardous to your licence!
diehardbenzfan said:
I don't see this selling well purely because of the fact that for a few grand extra, you could get a GLC 43, a new X3 M40i or an SQ5.
But the SQ5 is the next size up. Why should only huge SUV's be able to go quickly?Why buy an A1 when an A3 is a few grand more. But then why buy an A3 when an A4 is a few grand more. So on and so forth
If someone wants a small'ish SUV what will handle better than the boggo version, and have the engine to be able to overtake slower moving traffic, then why should that be frowned upon?
If people didn't want them, manufacturers wouldn't build them. But they do. Even Lamborghini are bringing one out. Now if you think the Tiguan with a 5-pot is pointless ...........
Dave Hedgehog said:
mrnoisy78 said:
Sounds like you need a VW Transporter not a SUV 
I just don't get why anyone feels the need to exceed the speed limit excessively in an SUV - it's the equivalent of having a VW Transporter with a 500bhp engine in it - yes it can go fast in a straight line, but it'll be sluggish for handling and braking due to its increased mass, and with speed cameras on nearly every fast M road in the country now, it's starting to look rather pointless for anything other than pub bragging rights.
tiguans 1550-1850 kgs, nissan GTR is 1740 kgsI just don't get why anyone feels the need to exceed the speed limit excessively in an SUV - it's the equivalent of having a VW Transporter with a 500bhp engine in it - yes it can go fast in a straight line, but it'll be sluggish for handling and braking due to its increased mass, and with speed cameras on nearly every fast M road in the country now, it's starting to look rather pointless for anything other than pub bragging rights.
hardly that much heavier, the new lighter 5 pot is probably lighter than some of VWs oil burners as well
if VW do their job properly there is no reason why it wont handle extremely well
as for the performance, not everyone is beige
Nanook said:
vz-r_dave said:
Are you being serious, you are judging a tiguan on the basis of its weight versus the weight of a GTR..... I am sure it will handle just as well as the GTR, afterall its lighter right
Would it be more useful to compare it against the weight of a tank? Perhaps a small bus?Or if you're talking about cars that are heavy, and therefore won't brake as well, is it more useful to compare to a car of similar mass, that has no issues with braking?
You're sure it'll handle as well as a GTR? Good for you!
Edited by vz-r_dave on Wednesday 23 August 16:40
I would consider this as our next do it all family wagon,
we have the last version tiguan and think it's great.
I'm one of a very small percentage of people who ordered a petrol engine instead of a diesel, to be exact the 2.0 tsi engine as fitted to the golf gti etc.
why?
well my wife wanted a suv because she liked the high up driving position + she also liked the dsg box in my Scirocco so the tiguan seemed like a good option
and because we would be covering less than 8000 miles a year getting a diesel seemed a bit pointless,
another reason we opted for the tiguan was because most of the competition only offered diesel or low powered petrol engines and I decided that if this was going to be our main family car, to be used for days out etc I wanted something that had at least a bit of poke + the deals available at the time meant it was cheaper than direct rivals.
not being a fan of 4x4's I never expected to like it much but soon changed my mind after we took delivery,
I like the driving position, the ride is fine on 18" wheels and although it won't corner like a hot hatch it still grips well and tbh I'm more interested in acceleration than how well it corners, and even with a 0-60 of over 7 secs, the elevated driving position and the power delivery thru the 7 speed dsg seem to make it feel quicker than it is.
It's big enough for our needs, is well equiped and imo looks good and the new one looks better still
at 46k I would struggle to justify this and would probably be looking at a used macan , but considering the deals available thru the likes of drive the deal etc, and knowing how much we saved off list on our tiguan, I believe these will be available optioned up for less than 40k and well worth a look.
we have the last version tiguan and think it's great.
I'm one of a very small percentage of people who ordered a petrol engine instead of a diesel, to be exact the 2.0 tsi engine as fitted to the golf gti etc.
why?
well my wife wanted a suv because she liked the high up driving position + she also liked the dsg box in my Scirocco so the tiguan seemed like a good option
and because we would be covering less than 8000 miles a year getting a diesel seemed a bit pointless,
another reason we opted for the tiguan was because most of the competition only offered diesel or low powered petrol engines and I decided that if this was going to be our main family car, to be used for days out etc I wanted something that had at least a bit of poke + the deals available at the time meant it was cheaper than direct rivals.
not being a fan of 4x4's I never expected to like it much but soon changed my mind after we took delivery,
I like the driving position, the ride is fine on 18" wheels and although it won't corner like a hot hatch it still grips well and tbh I'm more interested in acceleration than how well it corners, and even with a 0-60 of over 7 secs, the elevated driving position and the power delivery thru the 7 speed dsg seem to make it feel quicker than it is.
It's big enough for our needs, is well equiped and imo looks good and the new one looks better still
at 46k I would struggle to justify this and would probably be looking at a used macan , but considering the deals available thru the likes of drive the deal etc, and knowing how much we saved off list on our tiguan, I believe these will be available optioned up for less than 40k and well worth a look.
FullofBeans said:
MrBarry123 said:
Because it'll do pretty much everything I'd ever need it to do whilst being quick and...
Because it sounds nice.
Because it's a bit interesting with that engine.
Because I've always liked the look of the new Tiguan but the current engine choices are a bit "meh".
Because I'd like to have a bit of "go" should I need it.
Because it looks slow but is fast.
Because I sometimes enjoy a higher driving position which an estate can't give me.
All of the above .. I couldn't agree more. Because it sounds nice.
Because it's a bit interesting with that engine.
Because I've always liked the look of the new Tiguan but the current engine choices are a bit "meh".
Because I'd like to have a bit of "go" should I need it.
Because it looks slow but is fast.
Because I sometimes enjoy a higher driving position which an estate can't give me.
This would suit me and Mrs FoB down to the ground right now!
kmpowell said:
wab172uk said:
But the SQ5 is the next size up.
No it's not. Tiguan is Q5 size/class. VW don't do a Q3 equivalent.kmpowell said:
wab172uk said:
But the SQ5 is the next size up.
No it's not. Tiguan is Q5 size/class. VW don't do a Q3 equivalent.Burwood said:
kmpowell said:
wab172uk said:
But the SQ5 is the next size up.
No it's not. Tiguan is Q5 size/class. VW don't do a Q3 equivalent.Nanook said:
vz-r_dave said:
Yeah lets disregard centre of gravity, the fact the GTR is a ground up super car and compare it.... makes complete sense right..... if the GTR is fine with braking then so should the Tiguan right....
lolwut?Edited by vz-r_dave on Wednesday 23 August 16:40
Yes, lets disregard centre of gravity, when was the last time you saw a car doing a forward roll under braking because CoG was too high?
Do you have any actual points, other than it's pointless, but you can't really explain why. It's pathetic.
te. FFS we are comparing the weight of the Tiguan with a GTR seriously, 'its pathetic'! And if we are talking pure stopping power, of course CoG makes a bloody difference, the entire chassis does.... use weight as the only variable in a comparison..... its rediculous
Edited by vz-r_dave on Wednesday 23 August 18:48
Sheepshanks said:
kmpowell said:
wab172uk said:
But the SQ5 is the next size up.
No it's not. Tiguan is Q5 size/class. VW don't do a Q3 equivalent.The Q5 shares a platform and internal architecture (including dashboard) with the contemporary A4 and A5 (MK1 Q5 = B8, MK2 Q5 = B9).
legless said:
The Q3 (along with the Scirocco, Beetle and Yeti) sits on the old MK5 Golf platform. It hasn't made it onto MQB yet...
The Q5 shares a platform and internal architecture (including dashboard) with the contemporary A4 and A5 (MK1 Q5 = B8, MK2 Q5 = B9).
I was trying to keep it simple as similar VAG models change platforms at different times - the fundamental engineering class difference still applies - Tiguan / Q3 are transverse, Q5, Touareg, Macan are north/south.The Q5 shares a platform and internal architecture (including dashboard) with the contemporary A4 and A5 (MK1 Q5 = B8, MK2 Q5 = B9).
wab172uk said:
diehardbenzfan said:
I don't see this selling well purely because of the fact that for a few grand extra, you could get a GLC 43, a new X3 M40i or an SQ5.
But the SQ5 is the next size up. Why should only huge SUV's be able to go quickly?Why buy an A1 when an A3 is a few grand more. But then why buy an A3 when an A4 is a few grand more. So on and so forth
If someone wants a small'ish SUV what will handle better than the boggo version, and have the engine to be able to overtake slower moving traffic, then why should that be frowned upon?
If people didn't want them, manufacturers wouldn't build them. But they do. Even Lamborghini are bringing one out. Now if you think the Tiguan with a 5-pot is pointless ...........
I mean if I can afford to spend that kind of money on a car, especially if it's some sort of pcp, I'd 100% go for the GLC 43! The difference in deposit & monthlys cant be a lot I imagine!
By the way I'm only comparing the R version to Audi/merc/bmw, not the base tdi/tsi models as I'm sure pre reg tiguans can be had for under 25k
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