RE: 2019 Ford Focus ST gets 280hp and eLSD
Discussion
RaymondVanDerDon said:
I like the car but I'm really put off by Ford making the diesel look identical to the petrol. It irritated me when I had the mk3. Image isn't the top of my priority list but when spending my own money I wouldn't want to give a perception that I'm a company car driver.
Agree with this. Took a little shine off the ST focus for me. Especially as work had a fleet of them for the sales reps.
nickfrog said:
Onehp said:
So stop being so pedantic/hypocrite
- I am pedantic??Onehp said:
nickfrog said:
I can't see a lever so surely it has a proper handbrake, as in totally automatic.
That would be a parking brake. A time and a place, a race track or a frozen lake.
Pedantic as in pointing out this fact of yours. But at the same time you pretend you never go beyond the speed limit or let a powerful rwd car step out a bit on corner exit from time to time. That is the pedantic/hypocrisy part.
If you actually drive like a total saint and actually 'handle' those car controls exclusively on track days, hats off to you. Untill then, let's just assume we all make responsible use of our cars, without assuming stuff? And if anbody gives any evidence of not understanding how to behave, correct that immediately. As in actually dangerous. Although I confess I don't want to be in your or Ares car when you eventually try on that handbrake, as it will probably will result in immediate and irrecoverable loss of control. And a jail sentence. Or so it seems from how you treat others that dare say that the handbrake gets its occasional use when not 100% stationary...
Get it now?
Onehp said:
I acknowledge I am a bit pissed off mostly because of that other discussion still lingering.
What discussion ?Onehp said:
But at the same time you pretend you never go beyond the speed limit or let a powerful rwd car step out a bit on corner exit from time to time. That is the pedantic/hypocrisy part.
When have I ever pretended that ? It can't be pendantic/ hypocrite if I never did - sounds like a strawman argument Onehp said:
If you actually drive like a total saint
Who said I drive like a saint ? And what's a total saint ? Are there partial saints ? 
Onehp said:
and actually 'handle' those car controls exclusively on track days, hats off to you.
You can't use a handbrake on a track day, any TDO will send you home in the UKOnehp said:
Untill then, let's just assume we all make responsible use of our cars, without assuming stuff? And if anbody gives any evidence of not understanding how to behave, correct that immediately. As in actually dangerous. Although I confess I don't want to be in your or Ares car when you eventually try on that handbrake, as it will probably will result in immediate and irrecoverable loss of control. And a jail sentence. Or so it seems from how you treat others that dare say that the handbrake gets its occasional use when not 100% stationary...
What are you on about ? What has this got to do with Ares ? I assume nothing but you seem to assume a lot about my driving just because in the UK using your handbrake will result in a conviction quite quickly - I don't assume anything about your driving, I don't know you, you might have terrible car control, you might not, I don't know, although, having worked in motorsport for a long time, I have never seen one of our Nordic drivers or instructrors use the hand brake on UK public roads.Onehp said:
Get it now?
Get what ? You need to stop bemoaning the general adoption of auto handbrakes : they are perfect for mere road driving in most of the world.PH is the UK ok, but handbrakes are global. I'm an enthusiast driver and insist on bemoaning the loss of the manual handbrake on enthusiast cars. That you can't phantom that others, outside the UK so be it, have legitimate (as legitimate as other types of half-saintlike driving) enthusiast use of a manual handbrake, I very much deplore the shortsightedness.
Oh, and I do deeply dislike automatic handbrakes. With all the electronics and automatic this and that, on the very least it's nice to have a mechanical safeguard if the battery is dead. Just came up with another reason to like them, how nice.
Anyway, all will be forgiven Ford if you make the RS as an estate also. Wonder what I want to have that rear driven axle for?? When FWD and eLSD on top surely "is perfect for mere road driving in most of the world."
Oh, and I do deeply dislike automatic handbrakes. With all the electronics and automatic this and that, on the very least it's nice to have a mechanical safeguard if the battery is dead. Just came up with another reason to like them, how nice.
Anyway, all will be forgiven Ford if you make the RS as an estate also. Wonder what I want to have that rear driven axle for?? When FWD and eLSD on top surely "is perfect for mere road driving in most of the world."
Onehp said:
Anyway, all will be forgiven Ford if you make the RS as an estate also. Wonder what I want to have that rear driven axle for?? When FWD and eLSD on top surely "is perfect for mere road driving in most of the world."
Be lucky if there's an RS version at all but there's zero chance of an estate RSZetec-S said:
I thought there was talk of some sort of hybrid RS to follow in a couple of years?
Agreed about the estate - no chance.
The MK3 was also going to be a "Hybrid" according to Autocar/Autoexpress types back in 2010-2012ish and it wasn't - as it stands there's no North American market for the Focus now as they don't sell them there, the RS had to be a global product to be made last time (needed the sales numbers to justify it) and as the UK MD Andy Barratt "No plans for an RS" if that continues for a couple more years then it's possibly might be the last of the Focus RS?Agreed about the estate - no chance.
I wasn't expecting to see anything until the MK4 facelift anyway so there's still time for things to change
It's a pretty great time to be a car purchaser.
Uber hatches touching 400BHP, standard hot hatches between 250 and 320ish BHP, lots of choice, AWD, FWD, RWD, turbo 4 pots etc.
Nice looking car - I'm happy with our i30N we purchased a few weeks ago, but it's pretty cool that there is a bunch of choice. Not something for everyone, perhaps - but a lot of cars to tick the boxes.
One thing I'd have liked to improve was the engine/exhaust note - always felt it was a bit underwhelming in the more modern ST - the old Volvo-engined one was great.
Uber hatches touching 400BHP, standard hot hatches between 250 and 320ish BHP, lots of choice, AWD, FWD, RWD, turbo 4 pots etc.
Nice looking car - I'm happy with our i30N we purchased a few weeks ago, but it's pretty cool that there is a bunch of choice. Not something for everyone, perhaps - but a lot of cars to tick the boxes.
One thing I'd have liked to improve was the engine/exhaust note - always felt it was a bit underwhelming in the more modern ST - the old Volvo-engined one was great.
Looks promising. Will be very interested to see what the reviews look like.
Could well be a contender when my current PCP runs out early next year.
Current car is a Focus St3 mk3.5 in Tangerine Scream, so thinking the Orange Fury sounds like my sort of colour.
Still not keen on the floating tablets that seem to abound in cars these days. And who thought the electronic parking brake was a good idea?
Could well be a contender when my current PCP runs out early next year.
Current car is a Focus St3 mk3.5 in Tangerine Scream, so thinking the Orange Fury sounds like my sort of colour.
Still not keen on the floating tablets that seem to abound in cars these days. And who thought the electronic parking brake was a good idea?
Onehp said:
No chance for an RS estate, but a man can dream 
Would be quite a unique proposition, a sorted rear drive biased 4wd estate that doesn't weight 1800kg+...
Would have loved a regular RS but the boot is tiny for a 'practical' hatch, too small for our use.
Exactly. I'd definitely have bought an RS if they were made in estate form. As it is I'm pretty certain I'll be keeping my mk3.5 ST-3 estate for quite a few years.Would be quite a unique proposition, a sorted rear drive biased 4wd estate that doesn't weight 1800kg+...
Would have loved a regular RS but the boot is tiny for a 'practical' hatch, too small for our use.
JulianHJ said:
Onehp said:
No chance for an RS estate, but a man can dream
Would be quite a unique proposition, a sorted rear drive biased 4wd estate that doesn't weight 1800kg+...
Would have loved a regular RS but the boot is tiny for a 'practical' hatch, too small for our use.
Exactly. I'd definitely have bought an RS if they were made in estate form. As it is I'm pretty certain I'll be keeping my mk3.5 ST-3 estate for quite a few years.Would be quite a unique proposition, a sorted rear drive biased 4wd estate that doesn't weight 1800kg+...
Would have loved a regular RS but the boot is tiny for a 'practical' hatch, too small for our use.
KingNothing said:
Yes they do. 
EDIT: Unless, you mean just the Mk.4, which I don't know if they do yet, I know they sold the Mk.3 there.
Last year's announcement - EDIT: Unless, you mean just the Mk.4, which I don't know if they do yet, I know they sold the Mk.3 there.
https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/25/ford-to-stop-sel...
IanJ9375 said:
KingNothing said:
Yes they do.
EDIT: Unless, you mean just the Mk.4, which I don't know if they do yet, I know they sold the Mk.3 there.
Last year's announcement - EDIT: Unless, you mean just the Mk.4, which I don't know if they do yet, I know they sold the Mk.3 there.
https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/25/ford-to-stop-sel...
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