RE: Land Rover Defender walkaround | Frankfurt 2019

[100SRV]

NomduJour said:

Is that why the internet is awash with pictures of various pickups with bent chassis inflicted by towing and carrying things?

Because the chassis on those is of shallow vertical section and only boxed in certain places, mostly C section.The traditional Land-Rover chassis is fully boxed and has relatively deep sides.

[The Vambo]

Shakermaker said:

The Vambo said:

Did you wear an onion on your belt back then, 'cos that was the fashion?

Gimme 5 bees for a quarter, you'd say.

[Lester H]

Lester H said:

Brooking10 said:

Sa Calobra said:

It's carrying on the discovery look for the LR family look.

I'm not a fan. It looks targeted at the Hale village/Cheshire crowd.

Let's see how many the army order for front line duties.

I’ll save you the wait.

None.

JLR don’t need to or want to.

Do you still lament the fact that Rolls Royce no longer sell armoured cars to the army too ?

Hale, Sale, Altrincham, Macclesfield and Knutsford are all excellent markets (as are Esher, Virginia Water etc...). However, and this is a serious “however”, are thousands of farmers worldwide, going to buy this? Will omit armies if you wish, but..... If ‘armies’ sounds too aggressive then consider utility companies, big builders’ site managers, posh suburban contract gardeners, rural vets etc, etc.They won’t go for an expensive Disco .This market is cynical and hard headed.

Edited by Lester H on Wednesday 11th September 22:40

Edited by Lester H on Wednesday 11th September 22:53

[Shakermaker]

A rural vet will probably have a Ranger with a Truckman hard top, if they do farms, or maybe a Skoda Octavia Scout if they do kittens and hamsters and medium size dogs?

[300bhp/ton]

Jonny TVR said:

I wonder how the new model will impact on the original defender values

As they have ended up as such different vehicles, I'm not sure it'll impact it much either way tbh.

I can't see many people desiring the old one to then switch to this as an alternative or vice versa. It just isn't an alternative. It's a very different type of vehicle.

[300bhp/ton]

cheddar said:

Looks great but as I'm a technophobe and deeply unfashionable luddite my money's going on this

Just such a shame they look so minging

[300bhp/ton]

Hairymonster said:

I can see the appeal - it's the rugged tonka toy thing.

Tonka toy has been mentioned a few times across the different Defender threads. But I don't get it. This new Defender is about the least looking "Tonka toy" 4x4. It looks very urbanised if anything with lots of posing trim. But Tonka toy.....

[S100HP]

DoctorX said:

Is this a 300 bhp free zone?

I bloody love it.

[300bhp/ton]

camel_landy said:

XTR2Turbo said:

I am most disappointed that there is no manual gearbox option.

Why?

M

Maybe because some people like them. FFS you don't need 2 brain cells to answer that

[RichTT]

Wish they had up the configurator for the 90.

[camel_landy]

300bhp/ton said:

camel_landy said:

XTR2Turbo said:

I am most disappointed that there is no manual gearbox option.

Why?

M

Maybe because some people like them. FFS you don't need 2 brain cells to answer that

300bhp/ton said:

I'm not the one resulting to insults just because someone else doesn't agree.

"The problem with making assumptions is we believe they are the truth."



M

[DoctorX]

S100HP said:

Dagnabbit!

[AC123]

It's too expensive (as I thought it would be) for us to look at for the farm.

Run a few pickups which can be had new for low £20ks + V, a 2012 and 2015 defender (which have increased in value loads) and just got a Disco 5 commercial for more comfy stuff at £45k + V.

But farms aren't the target market at the end of the day which is understandable, they may as well push for margin.

[300bhp/ton]

I suspect many have played about with the online configurator for these.

My word..... that alone would need a month of messing about with just to figure out all the options. And then another month to figure out how to best spec and price one. Seems overly complex yet quite restrictive too. I saw one £60 option... you tick it and the priced jumped by £2000 or something, due to the other items it had to add


In a way it's great that you can have so much choice. But in the used market this will make finding a car pretty hard I suspect unless you aren't then fussed with the spec.

[camel_landy]

300bhp/ton said:

I suspect many have played about with the online configurator for these.

...

In a way it's great that you can have so much choice. But in the used market this will make finding a car pretty hard I suspect unless you aren't then fussed with the spec.

Gone are the days when you had 2x choices... Take it or leave it!!

M

Edited by camel_landy on Thursday 12th September 13:23

[Imafreeman]

I would have thought the farmers would love the large number of EC ewes.

Edited by Imafreeman on Thursday 12th September 13:51

[300bhp/ton]

camel_landy said:

Gone are the days when you had 2x choices... Take it or leave it!!

M

Edited by camel_landy on Thursday 12th September 13:23

Not quite.

The Jimny has no two options, colour and if you want an automatic.

I also priced up a Wrangler. Apart from selecting the starting model and petrol engine. It was interior and exterior colour and a set of mats. Everything else was already included.

[Tlandcruiser]

I was not that keen when I saw the first article on PH yesterday, or the day before...I thought I would watch the video and think meh....yet I really like it. I would love to buy one...but finances dont allow currently as Im in the middle of lots of renovations...maybe in a year or two I could consider one. Especially as Ive ruled out owning a Suzuki Jimny due to the stupidly long waiting list...(still)

[gt6]

Saw the one at goodwood but watching that video i must admit landrover seems to have done a very good job, lets hope it sells.

[unsprung]

Imafreeman said:

I would have thought the farmers would love the large number of EC ewes.

a comment that is surely far afield