RE: The best used Renault Sport cars to buy in 2021

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LordHaveMurci said:

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This is a great article.

I bought a mint 172 Cup last summer... mapped to 190bhp.

If only it were that simple

Sounds like a great car though, enjoy

189 at the flywheel, I stand corrected but it also has a ktec airbox kit too.



Anyway, I really do love driving the car and would recommend an old RenaultSport to anyone

[Koolkat969]

HotHatchFan said:

something a bit odd here then, his year of birth, according to his profile is 2000, so he bought it when he was 5 years old?!

Might be that car is owned in the family......mother's, father? Personally don't think there's anything suspicious about it at all.

[HotHatchFan]

LordHaveMurci said:

What are your thoughts on the 1*2’s, do you have a favourite?

Both great cars, but the 172 Cup is my favourite, will never part with that car.

[PH User]

Koolkat969 said:

Might be that car is owned in the family......mother's, father? Personally don't think there's anything suspicious about it at all.

Your talk of this car is rather suspicious

[HotHatchFan]

PH User said:

Your talk of this car is rather suspicious

[Koolkat969]

HotHatchFan said:

Lol...You're funny but I like to respond to posts directed at me out of courtesy so long as it's not rude or offensive. Don't have any affiliation with the guy other than being a member of the FB group as I own a Clio also and prices and values were being discussed here hence its relevance?

Maybe I'm just naive but I guess its Pistonheads so it's to be expected.

[LordHaveMurci]

HotHatchFan said:

LordHaveMurci said:

What are your thoughts on the 1*2’s, do you have a favourite?

Both great cars, but the 172 Cup is my favourite, will never part with that car.

Any particular reason?

I love my 172 Cup, had it 11yrs this month & no plans to ever sell it!

Probably the best car I’ve ever owned despite having owned various ‘better’ cars.

[Don1]

Had to get some essentials today. No-one said use a boring car...

[Zarco]

LordHaveMurci said:

HotHatchFan said:

LordHaveMurci said:

What are your thoughts on the 1*2’s, do you have a favourite?

Both great cars, but the 172 Cup is my favourite, will never part with that car.

Any particular reason?

I love my 172 Cup, had it 11yrs this month & no plans to ever sell it!

Probably the best car I’ve ever owned despite having owned various ‘better’ cars.

Because everyone knows the 172 Cup is the daddy!

[DrWildare]

It still amazes me people continually praise the Megane F1 R26 when the first Megane F1 Team Limited Edition RS225 was a superior vehicle and more exclusive the Alpine Blue was also a far more becoming colour than Victory Yellow.

[MiseryStreak]

DrWildare said:

It still amazes me people continually praise the Megane F1 R26 when the first Megane F1 Team Limited Edition RS225 was a superior vehicle and more exclusive the Alpine Blue was also a far more becoming colour than Victory Yellow.

It’s amazing the difference a bit of suspension tuning can make.

I think every version of RS Megane was not critically acclaimed upon release, but then developed to near perfection over its model life. Evo magazine helped develop the Megane 225 Trophy, in part because they could see the potential in the chassis. This preceded the F1 225, which was a Cup/Trophy with different rear dampers and a paint/sticker job, which was then developed further for the R26, with a slight power increase.

The key difference with the R26, and why it’s become the ultimate version, is the LSD. This dramatically altered its on track behaviour and they did a great job of tuning it, unlike the Focus RS and other similarly powered fwd hot hatches of the era, where the LSD increased the effect of torque steer.

The R26 also came in 8 different colours, including the Ultra Blue of the 225 F1.

[SidewaysSi]

DrWildare said:

It still amazes me people continually praise the Megane F1 R26 when the first Megane F1 Team Limited Edition RS225 was a superior vehicle and more exclusive the Alpine Blue was also a far more becoming colour than Victory Yellow.

How was it superior? I thought the R26 was the first with an LSD which transformed it?

[plenty]

DrWildare said:

It still amazes me people continually praise the Megane F1 R26 when the first Megane F1 Team Limited Edition RS225 was a superior vehicle and more exclusive the Alpine Blue was also a far more becoming colour than Victory Yellow.

among other inaccuracies, neither “Alpine Blue” nor “Victory Yellow” are actual names of colours.

[AlexIT]

Koolkat969 said:

This has to be the lowest mileage Clio 182 in the country @ 1,687 miles....yes, that's correct.
Been stored over the years because the owner apparently has cars and properties all over the country. Here's the link....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/434104827048933/pe...

Offers are invited and i wonder how much it will eventually sell for. Surely, it will be the most expensive Clio 182 sold to date. Watching with interest!

The mechanic who will be working on mine over here in Italy recently told me that he sold an absolutely perfect 182 with ~10.000 Kms on the clock to a French customer for a staggering 20.000 € (~17.000 £). TBH had anyone told me that, I would not have believed it, but knowing the person and the fact that he has no interest whatsoever to lie about this, I can't stop thinking it's true. Madness? Probably yes.

[TheAngryDog]

Tim124 said:

Error, the The Twingo 133 does not have a 6 speed gearbox and it's one of my biggest complaints...

This in spades. A 6th gear would make it much nicer on longer drives.

culpz said:

p4cks said:

The Twingo makes zero sense. It’s a 1*2 chassis with a lower powered engine and less legroom and the same money.

Other than having a newer reg why would you bother?

I used to agree with you, but i have started to like them more and more recently. They're great looking little things IMO, and, as you already stated, they are newer, so I'm guessing they will suffer less niggly little electrical issues and such compared to the older Clio's. Running costs may be a little bit cheaper but, tbh, there probably won't be much in it. They're also less sought after, so they can be had cheaper now. Possibly a little bit more exclusive too?

One thing i never realised until recently is that they suffer the same cold-start kangarooing attributes as the 197, so that's a little bit frustrating.

Interestingly, out of that lot, i actually kinda find myself being drawn to the little Twingo compared to the rest.

My wife (who is 5ft 1") and who isn't into cars had a twingo 1.1 / 1.2 before her current 133. She loves the Twingo size as is perfect for her and loves that it is a bit sporty looking. She doesn't drive it like I do. It does it's best work on back roads. Hers is a non cup face lift (which we both prefer) but with cup suspension and the 17" alloys. Also has the cup spoiler. It's a great little thing, goes around corners like it is on rails. It's slow, but that doesn't matter as you can have fun at legal speeds. Not good for long distance driving (I do end up in discomfort), but I have taken it to Amsterdam via Brussels and Bruges before.

What she wants from a car it is perfect for her.

I know people don't like the face lift, but it is the better looking car. Rear looks better, front does and the interior looks a bit more sportier.

[SeekerOfTruthAndPies]

I had a Mark 2 Clio 172 once - only car I've ever spun. I was driving like a fool in the rain though.

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SeekerOfTruthAndPies said:

I had a Mark 2 Clio 172 once - only car I've ever spun. I was driving like a fool in the rain though.

My 172 Cup is the only car I’ve had where it makes me want to drive like a tit

[SirTK]

To clarify the Alpine link - some time after Renault acquired Alpine, the production of Alpine cars was discontinued, but the factory (at Dieppe) continued without a pause but with the name changed to RenaultSport.

So if you like a RenaultSport ........ thank Alpine.

Fast forward to 2018 and the A110 was launched, which was completely designed by Alpine at Dieppe. Most of the car comes from Italy (bodywork, chassis, suspension, seats, brakes) and Germany (gearbox, wheels) and is assembled and finished at Dieppe. Only a base engine comes from Renault in Paris together with minor parts-bin items.

[LordHaveMurci]

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My 172 Cup is the only car I’ve had where it makes me want to drive like a tit

My classic scooby did back in the day but yep, the Clio sure has that effect doesn’t it

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LordHaveMurci said:

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My 172 Cup is the only car I’ve had where it makes me want to drive like a tit

My classic scooby did back in the day but yep, the Clio sure has that effect doesn’t it

I had two classic Impreza’s too! A Turbo 2000 and a 1998 Jap import STI Type RA. The Clio still trumps them in terms of pressuring you to drive silly somehow...