Lost love of cars the more I can afford them??
Discussion
SidewaysSi said:
Good man! Same here...was out at 6am both yesterday and today. Thrashed the s
t out of my cars and left with a hit to last all week.
Plenty of misery on PH - people always have something or someone to blame but themselves.
There are loads of opportunities to enjoy cars, however you like to but you just need to make the effort. And it needn't cost much either.
+1t out of my cars and left with a hit to last all week. Plenty of misery on PH - people always have something or someone to blame but themselves.
There are loads of opportunities to enjoy cars, however you like to but you just need to make the effort. And it needn't cost much either.
Same here! Out just after 6am from Kent this morning and headed to Beachy Head. Despite not leaving at 5am as planned, it was a pleasant drive there and back.
993kimbo said:
I live here and saw your car today. Weird numberplate. The roads were like that most of the day (but don't all come down) thankfully with not many dangerous motorcyclists - who we'd all like to shoot.
Oh wow.....were you also driving at the time or parked up? Edited by 993kimbo on Sunday 3rd July 19:42
Yes, pleased the roads were quiet. Saw about 3 groups of bikers and all well behaved tbh.
Don't know what happened to my number plate there.....think it's a little shy.
P5t said:
Is there anyone out there in a similar situation to me who can help please.
I used to love cars, constantly changing every 6 months or so to get the next one.
I started in my 20's and bought my cars outright, saved and bought the next one etc.
Then as my income increased, I invested in property etc and finances are free flowing...yet my urge to buy the cars I used to desire, is no longer there!
I would dream of e63, c63, m4, rs7, i8, california, gallardo etc etc when I didnt have the money, but buying one no longer appeals to me as I can now afford them, I dont have the urge.
Not sure if its just an age thing or novelty wearing off kind of thing?
I constantly find myself looking at older cars on autotrader now, 2013 a7, 640d, cls, panamera etc as I feel more than 15k on a car is too much now, even though I could purchase any new, I just feel comfortable spending less?
I am continually investing in property, my friends suggest leasing, but I feel it might be a waste. I work from home and have a run around for now, so not wanting lease commitments, probably get bored after 6 months?
My idea of buying used was to swap and change, get a decent deal and not lose too much come resale.
I used to easily splurge 25k+ in cars, sell for similar money, sometimes make a profit, but it no longer appeals to me.
Feel as if im bored of it, is there anyone in a similar situation who feels this way too? I kinda feel with the lack of work commute it takes away the love of driving. Shopping trips, weekend drives are ok but do miss that aspect of driving to work.
I used to love the finding aspect of a car, travelling to see it, do the deal and drive home. Sometimes that was better than the actual car haha. My wife tells me to delete the autotrader app lol.
Not sure if I explained it fully but is there anyone similar to me, or am I a lost cause lol. What have you done in that situation. Thanks
100% where I am at. I think the loss of the commute from lets say 6-8hrs of driving a week down 2 is part of the reason.I used to love cars, constantly changing every 6 months or so to get the next one.
I started in my 20's and bought my cars outright, saved and bought the next one etc.
Then as my income increased, I invested in property etc and finances are free flowing...yet my urge to buy the cars I used to desire, is no longer there!
I would dream of e63, c63, m4, rs7, i8, california, gallardo etc etc when I didnt have the money, but buying one no longer appeals to me as I can now afford them, I dont have the urge.
Not sure if its just an age thing or novelty wearing off kind of thing?
I constantly find myself looking at older cars on autotrader now, 2013 a7, 640d, cls, panamera etc as I feel more than 15k on a car is too much now, even though I could purchase any new, I just feel comfortable spending less?
I am continually investing in property, my friends suggest leasing, but I feel it might be a waste. I work from home and have a run around for now, so not wanting lease commitments, probably get bored after 6 months?
My idea of buying used was to swap and change, get a decent deal and not lose too much come resale.
I used to easily splurge 25k+ in cars, sell for similar money, sometimes make a profit, but it no longer appeals to me.
Feel as if im bored of it, is there anyone in a similar situation who feels this way too? I kinda feel with the lack of work commute it takes away the love of driving. Shopping trips, weekend drives are ok but do miss that aspect of driving to work.
I used to love the finding aspect of a car, travelling to see it, do the deal and drive home. Sometimes that was better than the actual car haha. My wife tells me to delete the autotrader app lol.
Not sure if I explained it fully but is there anyone similar to me, or am I a lost cause lol. What have you done in that situation. Thanks
I also don't think the crop of cars after 2010 ish is that desirable. Turbo muted blandness like the m3 and c63. The exception I always consider is the Audi R8 V10 manual. But yet I never get enough enthusiasm to pull the trigger. I used to get mega obsessed with all of it and spec etc and the chase was as good as the car.
Combine this is ever-worsening traffic, ever-increasing restrictions on fun drives that no longer exist and it's hard to see where the fun is.
ChocolateFrog said:
A young family is what's doing it for me at the moment.
If I do have a bit of free time (a couple of hours at most) then taking the car out isn't high on the agenda, a nap is much more appealing
Maybe I need to trade the Chimaera in for a Cerbera, they have ISOFIX right?
This is also very true!If I do have a bit of free time (a couple of hours at most) then taking the car out isn't high on the agenda, a nap is much more appealing
Maybe I need to trade the Chimaera in for a Cerbera, they have ISOFIX right?
e46m3c said:
I also don't think the crop of cars after 2010 ish is that desirable. Turbo muted blandness like the m3 and c63.
I've just had a bit of fun enjoying the rearend moving around a bit in the F82 M4 on the way back from the school run, so there is still fun to be had in the more modern cars for me. I would've had to absolutely rev the nuts off the E92 M3 to get the rearend moving in that in comparison, so for me the turbo torque with the more modern cars adds to the fun in my view.
It was a similar story with the 2006 E90 330d in comparison to the 2006 E90 330i I had too, and the 330d was the livelier car to drive at lower speeds I thought.
theboss said:
I think part of growing up / turning old and boring is probably realising that attainable and affordable are two separate measures.
Sometimes the more easily you can attain something the less financially sensible and thus affordable it seems.
When you're younger, if you can make the sums work and attain the car even at a stretch albeit without making yourself insolvent and hungry/cold, that seems to meet the definition of affordability.
When you're older and can attain a nice car easily i.e. having the means to buy it outright without batting an eyelid, you can't really justify doing so because that money would be better spent or invested elsewhere, therefore its unaffordable.
That's how it feels to me anyway. It drives my wife mad ("what do you mean we can't afford to do X Y Z, the money is sat there!")
Basically you see money as something to conserve rather than spooge.
good point well made.Sometimes the more easily you can attain something the less financially sensible and thus affordable it seems.
When you're younger, if you can make the sums work and attain the car even at a stretch albeit without making yourself insolvent and hungry/cold, that seems to meet the definition of affordability.
When you're older and can attain a nice car easily i.e. having the means to buy it outright without batting an eyelid, you can't really justify doing so because that money would be better spent or invested elsewhere, therefore its unaffordable.
That's how it feels to me anyway. It drives my wife mad ("what do you mean we can't afford to do X Y Z, the money is sat there!")
Basically you see money as something to conserve rather than spooge.
Edited by theboss on Tuesday 28th June 13:25
cerb4.5lee said:
I've just had a bit of fun enjoying the rearend moving around a bit in the F82 M4 on the way back from the school run, so there is still fun to be had in the more modern cars for me.
I would've had to absolutely rev the nuts off the E92 M3 to get the rearend moving in that in comparison, so for me the turbo torque with the more modern cars adds to the fun in my view.
It was a similar story with the 2006 E90 330d in comparison to the 2006 E90 330i I had too, and the 330d was the livelier car to drive at lower speeds I thought.
Yes for sure these are great cars. I just don't find them desirable anymore for some reason. I would've had to absolutely rev the nuts off the E92 M3 to get the rearend moving in that in comparison, so for me the turbo torque with the more modern cars adds to the fun in my view.
It was a similar story with the 2006 E90 330d in comparison to the 2006 E90 330i I had too, and the 330d was the livelier car to drive at lower speeds I thought.
I see a fair few get their kicks from morning blast but the constant fear of pending prison sentence puts me off this. I find I get just as much excitement these days from a bit of DH mountain biking without the guilt.
UTH said:
Knoxville2410 said:
UTH said:
Totally agree, I need to get out more in the car and enjoy it.
£70k Corvette Z06 sitting in my garage averaging 1k miles per year. I feel actual guilt right now.
Jesus Christ, I'd be living in it to get my money's worth. £70k Corvette Z06 sitting in my garage averaging 1k miles per year. I feel actual guilt right now.
Doesn’t help that it’s too loud for any track days.
I lost interest in the latest and greatest a good few years ago. I stopped commuting by car so I no longer needed a modern reliable and economical car so I bought an old 911 and an even older 205 GTI (the car that started it all for me). I'm now getting to the point where I'm starting to seriously consider selling both of these and just not bothering with a car at all. I hardly use them and when I do the drives always end up in frustration with other road users and annoyance and the fuel costs.
The only thing stopping me is that it feels like I'm letting the bds win by giving up on my noisy, dirty cars.
The only thing stopping me is that it feels like I'm letting the b
ds win by giving up on my noisy, dirty cars.e46m3c said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I've just had a bit of fun enjoying the rearend moving around a bit in the F82 M4 on the way back from the school run, so there is still fun to be had in the more modern cars for me.
I would've had to absolutely rev the nuts off the E92 M3 to get the rearend moving in that in comparison, so for me the turbo torque with the more modern cars adds to the fun in my view.
It was a similar story with the 2006 E90 330d in comparison to the 2006 E90 330i I had too, and the 330d was the livelier car to drive at lower speeds I thought.
Yes for sure these are great cars. I just don't find them desirable anymore for some reason. I would've had to absolutely rev the nuts off the E92 M3 to get the rearend moving in that in comparison, so for me the turbo torque with the more modern cars adds to the fun in my view.
It was a similar story with the 2006 E90 330d in comparison to the 2006 E90 330i I had too, and the 330d was the livelier car to drive at lower speeds I thought.
I see a fair few get their kicks from morning blast but the constant fear of pending prison sentence puts me off this. I find I get just as much excitement these days from a bit of DH mountain biking without the guilt.
I used to really enjoy DH mountain biking with my mates years ago too. I don't think that I've got the same confidence now as I did back then though, but it was belting fun at the time for sure I thought.
I'm definitely in a lul. Sold my GT3RS because I found all the stuff I did in it felt selfish. e.g I should be spending this money on something gets me closer to my goals, or spending the time over the weekend with my mates or my partner. It had started to become a really solitary thing. I tried to counter that by joining clubs and doing various events, while the people were nice I always felt like I was in an instagram shoot with a bunch of people desperate to show others what a great time they were having. Chatting about specs in a one make environment is really not my thing. I dunno. Maybe when I am powerfully built enough to buy two at a time and not flinch if they get written off it'll be different, but after a while the joy just fell out the arse of it. Maybe thats part of getting older?
Still fantasise about good roadtrips in nice weather but the reality has always been different for me. Having properly nice cars turned out to be quite an alienating experience.
Still fantasise about good roadtrips in nice weather but the reality has always been different for me. Having properly nice cars turned out to be quite an alienating experience.
Seem to be going through something similar myself at the moment - but still enjoying the love of driving.
Rather than getting the latest all singing all dancing sports car I've been revisiting the cars of my 30s - currently swanning around in a mk2 MX5 and loving it - might be throwing money at it to bring it back to better than new, but for just over £1000 I'm having a whale of a time; also bought a mk1 TT 225 late last year, enjoyed it's winter sure footedness and bringing it back to OEM spec. The expensive stuff in the garage isn't getting a look in at the moment.... now if i can find a decent mk1 MR2 for reasonable money.....
Rather than getting the latest all singing all dancing sports car I've been revisiting the cars of my 30s - currently swanning around in a mk2 MX5 and loving it - might be throwing money at it to bring it back to better than new, but for just over £1000 I'm having a whale of a time; also bought a mk1 TT 225 late last year, enjoyed it's winter sure footedness and bringing it back to OEM spec. The expensive stuff in the garage isn't getting a look in at the moment.... now if i can find a decent mk1 MR2 for reasonable money.....
Time for a Caterham or similar.
I felt the same then bought the toy I have now and I’m totally smitten. I’ve owned many lightweight, low volume sports cars and they just don’t compare to any supercar on British roads. I drive powerful, modern sports cars for a living and, with the possible exception of the GR Yaris, none of them give me the excitement of my Sylva J15!
I felt the same then bought the toy I have now and I’m totally smitten. I’ve owned many lightweight, low volume sports cars and they just don’t compare to any supercar on British roads. I drive powerful, modern sports cars for a living and, with the possible exception of the GR Yaris, none of them give me the excitement of my Sylva J15!
Lordbenny said:
Time for a Caterham or similar.
I felt the same then bought the toy I have now and I’m totally smitten. I’ve owned many lightweight, low volume sports cars and they just don’t compare to any supercar on British roads. I drive powerful, modern sports cars for a living and, with the possible exception of the GR Yaris, none of them give me the excitement of my Sylva J15!
Do you think a Lotus Elise would work or is even that still not raw enough?I felt the same then bought the toy I have now and I’m totally smitten. I’ve owned many lightweight, low volume sports cars and they just don’t compare to any supercar on British roads. I drive powerful, modern sports cars for a living and, with the possible exception of the GR Yaris, none of them give me the excitement of my Sylva J15!
AlexNJ89 said:
Do you think a Lotus Elise would work or is even that still not raw enough?
I think so. I have owned a vx220t, Elise and now an Exige. I have test drove a Caterham and loved it. However a big positive of a lotus for me is that they are raw but still useable so I can get more enjoyment from one.AlexNJ89 said:
Lordbenny said:
Time for a Caterham or similar.
I felt the same then bought the toy I have now and I’m totally smitten. I’ve owned many lightweight, low volume sports cars and they just don’t compare to any supercar on British roads. I drive powerful, modern sports cars for a living and, with the possible exception of the GR Yaris, none of them give me the excitement of my Sylva J15!
Do you think a Lotus Elise would work or is even that still not raw enough?I felt the same then bought the toy I have now and I’m totally smitten. I’ve owned many lightweight, low volume sports cars and they just don’t compare to any supercar on British roads. I drive powerful, modern sports cars for a living and, with the possible exception of the GR Yaris, none of them give me the excitement of my Sylva J15!
You all owe it to your younger selves to buy that silly car
e46m3c said:
theboss said:
I think part of growing up / turning old and boring is probably realising that attainable and affordable are two separate measures.
Sometimes the more easily you can attain something the less financially sensible and thus affordable it seems.
When you're younger, if you can make the sums work and attain the car even at a stretch albeit without making yourself insolvent and hungry/cold, that seems to meet the definition of affordability.
When you're older and can attain a nice car easily i.e. having the means to buy it outright without batting an eyelid, you can't really justify doing so because that money would be better spent or invested elsewhere, therefore its unaffordable.
That's how it feels to me anyway. It drives my wife mad ("what do you mean we can't afford to do X Y Z, the money is sat there!")
Basically you see money as something to conserve rather than spooge.
good point well made.Sometimes the more easily you can attain something the less financially sensible and thus affordable it seems.
When you're younger, if you can make the sums work and attain the car even at a stretch albeit without making yourself insolvent and hungry/cold, that seems to meet the definition of affordability.
When you're older and can attain a nice car easily i.e. having the means to buy it outright without batting an eyelid, you can't really justify doing so because that money would be better spent or invested elsewhere, therefore its unaffordable.
That's how it feels to me anyway. It drives my wife mad ("what do you mean we can't afford to do X Y Z, the money is sat there!")
Basically you see money as something to conserve rather than spooge.
Edited by theboss on Tuesday 28th June 13:25
When the dream suddenly becomes real and the money is right there for whatever please you tend to take a step back and think a bit more. The moment you do that of course the thoughts that come to mind aren't how great making the dream real would be but is the grief of buyers remorse gonna bite me in the arse and is the dream going to be anything like it's cracked up to be and what else could I do with the cash instead and the biggest question of all has to be asked too - is making the dream real gonna make me any happier than I am right now.
Chances are an older or more sensible person whose already living their life right will know it won't and so you just say meh - and trouser your wallet and walk out the shop or showroom.
Edited by Jaguar steve on Monday 4th July 20:34
Lordbenny said:
Time for a Caterham or similar.
I felt the same then bought the toy I have now and I’m totally smitten. I’ve owned many lightweight, low volume sports cars and they just don’t compare to any supercar on British roads. I drive powerful, modern sports cars for a living and, with the possible exception of the GR Yaris, none of them give me the excitement of my Sylva J15!
You’re going to struggle to beat the thrill of your Sylva Andy! I felt the same then bought the toy I have now and I’m totally smitten. I’ve owned many lightweight, low volume sports cars and they just don’t compare to any supercar on British roads. I drive powerful, modern sports cars for a living and, with the possible exception of the GR Yaris, none of them give me the excitement of my Sylva J15!
I had a go though and recently bought an n/a Zenos E10. It makes my Elise S1 seem so quiet, comfortable and sensible. I defy anyone to not feel the thrill of driving in that.
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