RE: 2023 Mercedes-AMG C43 | UK Review

[ajap1979]

theplayingmantis said:

ajap1979 said:

Julian Scott said:

ajap1979 said:

Ioniq 5 N and some change please.

I thought they were EV (and hatchback) only. Learn something new every day.

What's your point? They're both a way of blowing £70k to carry four adults around, regardless of powertrain.

Has anyone actually paid anywhere nr 70k for a 5 n?

Well I don't think they're available to order yet, but the press release said "from £65000", so yes, I guess with a few options they might be knocking on for £70k, or thereabouts.

[Wills2]

howardhughes said:

From a 6.3 turbo to a 2.0. No thanks.

User name checks out, but they didn't get the memo about the 6.3 turbo engine.

[theplayingmantis]

ajap1979 said:

theplayingmantis said:

ajap1979 said:

Julian Scott said:

ajap1979 said:

Ioniq 5 N and some change please.

I thought they were EV (and hatchback) only. Learn something new every day.

What's your point? They're both a way of blowing £70k to carry four adults around, regardless of powertrain.

Has anyone actually paid anywhere nr 70k for a 5 n?

Well I don't think they're available to order yet, but the press release said "from £65000", so yes, I guess with a few options they might be knocking on for £70k, or thereabouts.

Ah ok, but this says 70k in reality it won't be what people pay. Assume same for the hyundai given what it is. 65 is just a starting figure to go down from. Quite a lot one suspects.

[Fox-]

theplayingmantis said:

Ah ok, but this says 70k in reality it won't be what people pay. Assume same for the hyundai given what it is. 65 is just a starting figure to go down from. Quite a lot one suspects.

I thought all the sales were direct now, cutting out the opportunity for negotiation with the retailer?

[RonnieHotdogs]

ajap1979 said:

Well I don't think they're available to order yet, but the press release said "from £65000", so yes, I guess with a few options they might be knocking on for £70k, or thereabouts.

Yep, that's bloody expensive.

As others have said, it's directly comparible with the M340i. From first hand experience you can spec one very highly to about £68k, then knock £11k off if you order from the right place. This is for a touring as well.

Didn't even consider the Merc if I'm honest, if it were still a V6 I would have done.

[bluemason]

RonnieHotdogs said:

Yep, that's bloody expensive.

As others have said, it's directly comparible with the M340i. From first hand experience you can spec one very highly to about £68k, then knock £11k off if you order from the right place. This is for a touring as well.

Didn't even consider the Merc if I'm honest, if it we are still a V6 I would have done.

I was specing a the CLE 350 coupe(the new c class coupe replacement) And the otr cost was £60,000! Standard blue paint and a light cream interior.

[plfrench]

As I said earlier, I reckon Merc have just lumped in the ZEV Mandate fine - it'll depend on how their EV sales are going during the year. If they don't sell many EQ[x]'s then that'll be £70k for the C43, if they're well on the way for their 22% quota then a C43 is yours for a bargain £55k

Be an interesting year for pricing next year...

[VR6 Eug]

Why is it so heavy! That weighs more than my C63! That's with a 6.2 V8!

Also if you turn off the electrical power in the new one, would it then be as quick as the c63 w204 & w205?

Edited by VR6 Eug on Saturday 18th November 16:48

[VR6 Eug]

Wills2 said:

howardhughes said:

From a 6.3 turbo to a 2.0. No thanks.

User name checks out, but they didn't get the memo about the 6.3 turbo engine.

The W204 is 6.2 and the W205 is 4.0 twin turbo.

[Nodrog298]

I can't help but think the price is just too excessive and isn't justified. Pretty much bang on the same list price as an Audi RS4 which is getting a bit long in the tooth now but that isn't always a bad thing (has real HVAC controls) and is 100kg lighter, with 2 more cylinders and an extra 40hp.

Not to mention the M340i at a relative bargain £58k and the Alpina B3 at £79k this is a pretty competitive price point. To be completely honest I wouldn't even consider the Merc at £71k

Edited by Nodrog298 on Saturday 18th November 23:00

[havoc]

fk me!

- 1840kg with only a 4-pot?!? That's 400kg heavier than a Golf GTi which isn't much smaller (can a boot weigh 400kg*?), and more than the outgoing V8.
- £71k for the 'mild' version?

What the fk's happened with cars nowadays?!?




* Yes, I know, 4wd and 4ws...but that lot won't weigh much more than a 100kg unless the engineers have been very lazy.

[E90_M3Ross]

havoc said:

fk me!

- 1840kg with only a 4-pot?!? That's 400kg heavier than a Golf GTi which isn't much smaller (can a boot weigh 400kg*?), and more than the outgoing V8.
- £71k for the 'mild' version?

What the fk's happened with cars nowadays?!?




* Yes, I know, 4wd and 4ws...but that lot won't weigh much more than a 100kg unless the engineers have been very lazy.

Don't tell me you're the one who's been lazy and not read the fact this car is a hybrid?

I'd have thought you'd have mentioned that in your "4WD and 4WS" part of your comment if so?

[Oily76]

E90_M3Ross said:

Don't tell me you're the one who's been lazy and not read the fact this car is a hybrid?

I'd have thought you'd have mentioned that in your "4WD and 4WS" part of your comment if so?

Not sure if I'm missing a joke here, but this car isn't a hybrid. C63 is a plug-in hybrid, but this just has an electrified turbo.

[CoolHands]

How bland and boring looking

[kharma45]

ajap1979 said:

Well I don't think they're available to order yet, but the press release said "from £65000", so yes, I guess with a few options they might be knocking on for £70k, or thereabouts.

Only two options, paint and whatever the vision roof is. Adds £2k to the car if you choose both

https://dmassets.hyundai.com/is/content/hyundaiaut...

[E90_M3Ross]

Oily76 said:

E90_M3Ross said:

Don't tell me you're the one who's been lazy and not read the fact this car is a hybrid?

I'd have thought you'd have mentioned that in your "4WD and 4WS" part of your comment if so?

Not sure if I'm missing a joke here, but this car isn't a hybrid. C63 is a plug-in hybrid, but this just has an electrified turbo.

Article says it's a 48V mild hybrid. Sort of luxurious 4WD and 4WS estate car with over 400bhp weighs more than less powerful hatchback shocker, though.

[havoc]

E90_M3Ross said:

Oily76 said:

E90_M3Ross said:

Don't tell me you're the one who's been lazy and not read the fact this car is a hybrid?

I'd have thought you'd have mentioned that in your "4WD and 4WS" part of your comment if so?

Not sure if I'm missing a joke here, but this car isn't a hybrid. C63 is a plug-in hybrid, but this just has an electrified turbo.

Article says it's a 48V mild hybrid.

Very mild, given it doesn't come with a dedicated battery pack...which funnily enough is where most of the weight is - a 6kW pancake motor isn't going to weigh f-all...'hybrid' in this instance is all marketing mouth and no economy-benefit trousers.

So I repeat my comment, and you may want to rethink yours...

[ZX10R NIN]

2.0T with a 43 badge is fine with me BUT the price is too strong for a 2.0T imo, also once you turn off the synthetic noise it actually sound sh*te.

When you can buy 6 pot alternatives these become a very hard sell.

[southerndriver]

4-cylinders. No way at that price.

[Julian Scott]

ajap1979 said:

Julian Scott said:

ajap1979 said:

Ioniq 5 N and some change please.

I thought they were EV (and hatchback) only. Learn something new every day.

What's your point? They're both a way of blowing £70k to carry four adults around, regardless of powertrain.

So is a Ford Raptor Pickup.