RE: 2024 Rolls-Royce Spectre | UK Review
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biggbn said:
Nomme de Plum said:
JJJ. said:
biggbn said:
Where do the owners of 300k plus ICE cars refuel? Oh, yeah, in a 'public fuelling bay'.
So, now you're saying recharging is the same as refuelling... Oh, gosh! I'm out, as this thread is obviously going to go downhill fast from this point onwards.
Bye bye.
BTW the RR is the perfect carriage to be an EV quiet, refined and the driver sorts out the plugging in bit. Who cares about the kWhr rate?
Plus it is an oxymoron anyway for me, because surely saving a few quid is meaningless...especially if you can afford to buy a car for £300k anyway.
However...I suppose that you don't get rich in the first place if you run cars with an ICE though to be fair anyway.
It is certainly an interesting debate I reckon for sure.
Dombilano said:
So EV weight is different to ICE weight? That's a new one. Whether the mass is located closer to the ground or not makes no difference to inertia
In terms of how the mass impacts energy consumption then yes it is very different.In terms if how torque discontinuities can unsettle a car, then yes, EV powertrains differ from ICE ones.
You’ve mentioned inertia, polar moment of inertia changes the dynamics during turn in and centre of gravity changes the rolling action on the suspension.
A large mass centred high over the front axle is simply not the same as positioning that mass at axle height perfectly centred between the two axles. F1 cars aren’t front-engined are they?
If your reference point is front engined ICEs then yes you are likely to come to the wrong conclusions about how ‘mid-engined’ low CoG chassis behave.
Rather than guessing how EVs drive, why not drive something like a Taycan for a day to find out for yourself?
Presumably coming to a salary sacrifice lease any day now? Just think of the tax you could lose in that!
On reflection it is bit bonkers that you can offset tax against an EV so effectively. Subsidised Tycan anyone?
On reflection it is bit bonkers that you can offset tax against an EV so effectively. Subsidised Tycan anyone?
- I'm only bitter as I have no possible way if charging from home and public chargers around here are 75 ppKWH (about 26mpgs cost equivalent. Else I'd be jumping on a lease tomorrow**
Blackpuddin said:
Nearly £450k being asked for delivery mileage cars, looks like R-R got it right.
Never underestimate the power of limited supply and people wanting to be seen with the latest expensive thing. A wealthy guy I know is walking around with glasses that make him look like Lefty from Donnie Brasco because they're fashionable and very expensive.
Have a look at the second hand RR for sale. Most don’t seem to have done more than 2000-3000 miles a year. With that sort of mileage I expect not being able to drive 700 without filling up is not going to trouble most owners.
I would never buy a RR so irrelevant to me whether ICE or EV.
I would never buy a RR so irrelevant to me whether ICE or EV.
theicemario said:
GT9 said:
It should be relatively obvious by now that there are some fundamental differences between an electric powertrain and a conventional ICE powertrain in the way mass is distributed in the car in three dimensions, how the torque is applied and how if all affect the dynamics.
On another thread moments ago...
T1berious said:
So we made the switch to EV a few years ago (Jan 22), full disclosure, I was waiting for a build slot for a Cayman. However for just shy of a year our only car was an EV.
So if I could have only have one Car it would be an EV and it would be this....
Taycan GTS Sport Turismo, had as a loan while the Cayman was in for service.
This thing was brilliant! Cornered on rails and was a delight on less than ideal roads (Think it had air suspension and rear wheel steer). Was witchcraft how it shrank around corners and felt as flat as the Cayman.
Yup, for 95% of our journeys an EV makes sense but we've got a drive and a 7Kw charger so it's a no brainer (even more so if you have a cheap overnight electricity tarriff).
So if I could have only have one Car it would be an EV and it would be this....
Taycan GTS Sport Turismo, had as a loan while the Cayman was in for service.
This thing was brilliant! Cornered on rails and was a delight on less than ideal roads (Think it had air suspension and rear wheel steer). Was witchcraft how it shrank around corners and felt as flat as the Cayman.
Yup, for 95% of our journeys an EV makes sense but we've got a drive and a 7Kw charger so it's a no brainer (even more so if you have a cheap overnight electricity tarriff).
Absolutely fantastic, and that specification is really perfect. Looks beautiful. It’s a lottery win car for me.
I’ve spent some time up close and around one on a few occasions and it really is like nothing else. The sheer scale of it is impressive.
After the Phantom Coupe this is probably the coolest modern day RR.
I’ve spent some time up close and around one on a few occasions and it really is like nothing else. The sheer scale of it is impressive.
After the Phantom Coupe this is probably the coolest modern day RR.
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