Is it ok to be rude to dealers?

Is it ok to be rude to dealers?

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nsmith1180

3,941 posts

180 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
Victor101 said:
Politeness and sincerity are the key ingredients.
You've got a funny way of showing this, chum, on this thread at least.
+1

He makes me ashamed to be a saleman. Never had that before.

tstain

163 posts

241 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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nsmith1180 said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Victor101 said:
Politeness and sincerity are the key ingredients.
You've got a funny way of showing this, chum, on this thread at least.
+1

He makes me ashamed to be a saleman. Never had that before.
come off it, i know he is being blunt but tell me you don't agree with what he is saying.

nsmith1180

3,941 posts

180 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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tstain said:
nsmith1180 said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Victor101 said:
Politeness and sincerity are the key ingredients.
You've got a funny way of showing this, chum, on this thread at least.
+1

He makes me ashamed to be a saleman. Never had that before.
come off it, i know he is being blunt but tell me you don't agree with what he is saying.
I agree with very little of what he is saying.

I only treat a customer in the same way as him when they have proven themselves to be a wker. I dont hate everyone who walks into the dealership.

bazking69

8,620 posts

192 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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Don't worry about their feelings, they are professionals!!

Victor101

99 posts

179 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
quotequote all
nsmith1180 said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Victor101 said:
Politeness and sincerity are the key ingredients.
You've got a funny way of showing this, chum, on this thread at least.
+1

He makes me ashamed to be a saleman. Never had that before.
Aaah Diddums, never mind Poppit. Whip a Coldplay CD from your Manbag and hope that nasty Man goes away.

V8mate

45,899 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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Blown2CV said:
MattVXR87 said:
One of my rules in life is to treat others how you want to be treated
well, would you want people to treat you in a rude way?
Well, to pull another bit of management-speak into the thread, behaviour breeds behaviour.

And it's the dealers who are in the driving seat when it comes to changing any 'attitude' or misgivings their potential customers may have.

Good salesman, in any industry, always do very well.

I am generally in the 'walk away and shun the entire dealership' camp when it comes to bad service, but I don't think any less of the next guy who feels that they should give a salesman immediate and direct feedback about their poor performance either.

I tend to go out of my way to acknowledge good service too.

kma

959 posts

196 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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I'd say it is fair game to be rude to a dealer but only in certain situations such as this:

ehyouwhat said:
ETA: I have been positively insulted by car dealers before; an episode in the Wheatley Hall Road Honda dealership in Doncaster springs to mind ("bring your parents in to prove you can afford this Civic Type-R and THEN we'll let you test-drive it"
I hope you told them to fk off!


The other situation is if you happen to come across victor. hehe

bimsb6

8,065 posts

223 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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kma said:
I'd say it is fair game to be rude to a dealer but only in certain situations such as this:

ehyouwhat said:
ETA: I have been positively insulted by car dealers before; an episode in the Wheatley Hall Road Honda dealership in Doncaster springs to mind ("bring your parents in to prove you can afford this Civic Type-R and THEN we'll let you test-drive it"
I hope you told them to fk off!


The other situation is if you happen to come across victor. hehe
i think a "actually both my parents died in a car crash " would be called for there ! unbelievable arrogance .

nsmith1180

3,941 posts

180 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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kma said:
I'd say it is fair game to be rude to a dealer but only in certain situations such as this:

ehyouwhat said:
ETA: I have been positively insulted by car dealers before; an episode in the Wheatley Hall Road Honda dealership in Doncaster springs to mind ("bring your parents in to prove you can afford this Civic Type-R and THEN we'll let you test-drive it"
I hope you told them to fk off!


The other situation is if you happen to come across victor. hehe
Christ thats shocking.

The only time I have done anything like that was when I had a 17 year old buying an Astra VXR. I would only sell it to him with his fathers permission as he drove terrably on the test drive. Went all the way to point of signing the order, with the understanding that as he was under 18, I would require permission from his Gurardian to complete the deal.

I didnt want his death on my concience.

parapaul

2,828 posts

200 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Victor101 said:
Politeness and sincerity are the key ingredients. Don't make promises you cannot keep. Ring the customer every two days with a progress update. Ring them a couple of days after they've taken delivery.

It's not hard really. The first rule is to quickly weigh up a customer - are they genuine, or just in dreamland? Never bullsh*t the customer as you will always get found out - it works the other way too.
Hang on, I thought you were a tt? biggrin That post really suggests you're not...

That's exactly how I was treated the first time I bought from a main dealer. Polite phone calls, polite follow up letters, even a business card with the sales manager's home number on it should I have any problems. I'd never have called it in a million years but to me, that just oozed customer service.


Munter

31,319 posts

243 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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parapaul said:
Victor101 said:
Politeness and sincerity are the key ingredients. Don't make promises you cannot keep. Ring the customer every two days with a progress update. Ring them a couple of days after they've taken delivery.

It's not hard really. The first rule is to quickly weigh up a customer - are they genuine, or just in dreamland? Never bullsh*t the customer as you will always get found out - it works the other way too.
Hang on, I thought you were a tt? biggrin That post really suggests you're not...

That's exactly how I was treated the first time I bought from a main dealer. Polite phone calls, polite follow up letters, even a business card with the sales manager's home number on it should I have any problems. I'd never have called it in a million years but to me, that just oozed customer service.
If you never called it...how do you know it was his home number! wink

Victor101

99 posts

179 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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parapaul said:
Victor101 said:
Politeness and sincerity are the key ingredients. Don't make promises you cannot keep. Ring the customer every two days with a progress update. Ring them a couple of days after they've taken delivery.

It's not hard really. The first rule is to quickly weigh up a customer - are they genuine, or just in dreamland? Never bullsh*t the customer as you will always get found out - it works the other way too.
Hang on, I thought you were a tt? biggrin That post really suggests you're not...

That's exactly how I was treated the first time I bought from a main dealer. Polite phone calls, polite follow up letters, even a business card with the sales manager's home number on it should I have any problems. I'd never have called it in a million years but to me, that just oozed customer service.
That's the level of service I like to give. I acknowledge that not everyone has pots of money, but the buyer of an £8000 car deserves (and gets) the same courtesy as someone spending £40'000. At the end of the day they are money spending customers and you find that at the lower end of the market the money has been harder earned - if anything I work harder at delivering a good service to these guys even though the actual commission is laughable.
Why? Because they will come back for another, better car at some point because they remember the great service they got.

With regard to the "I thought you were a tt' comment. Well, all I'm saying is how EVERY car salesman thinks and how most act - and I know an awful lot. We enjoy our job, but treat us like Monkeys and you will get a short shrift - in the politest possible manner of course. The holier than thou attitude by some here is laudable but completely misguided.

I have to say thought that it is becoming a less pleasant job every year. You'll find that most dealerships are run by large PLC's and the level of reward for success is shrinking as goalposts are moved. It's increasingly becoming a job for gobby 22 year olds rather than seasoned professionals. That applies to the presige sector as well as the regular Ford/Vauxhall set ups.

Hooty

398 posts

173 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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Victor101 said:
It's increasingly becoming a job for gobby 22 year olds rather than seasoned professionals.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! laughlaughlaughlaughlaughlaughlaugh

Victor101

99 posts

179 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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Hooty said:
Victor101 said:
It's increasingly becoming a job for gobby 22 year olds rather than seasoned professionals.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! laughlaughlaughlaughlaughlaughlaugh
That'll be you then - a gobby Youth. That figures!!

Hooty

398 posts

173 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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Victor101 said:
Hooty said:
Victor101 said:
It's increasingly becoming a job for gobby 22 year olds rather than seasoned professionals.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! laughlaughlaughlaughlaughlaughlaugh
That'll be you then - a gobby Youth. That figures!!
Hardly, I'm 38 with three children!

Sorry, I couldn't help but laugh that you consider yourself to be a seasoned professional! It's about the best oxymoron I've heard in a long time : professional car salesman.

POORCARDEALER

8,528 posts

243 months

Friday 26th February 2010
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Hooty said:
Victor101 said:
Hooty said:
Victor101 said:
It's increasingly becoming a job for gobby 22 year olds rather than seasoned professionals.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! laughlaughlaughlaughlaughlaughlaugh
That'll be you then - a gobby Youth. That figures!!
Hardly, I'm 38 with three children!

Sorry, I couldn't help but laugh that you consider yourself to be a seasoned professional! It's about the best oxymoron I've heard in a long time : professional car salesman.
I am a professional car salesman of sorts.......I was originally an accountant!

Victor101

99 posts

179 months

Friday 26th February 2010
quotequote all
Hooty said:
Victor101 said:
Hooty said:
Victor101 said:
It's increasingly becoming a job for gobby 22 year olds rather than seasoned professionals.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! laughlaughlaughlaughlaughlaughlaugh
That'll be you then - a gobby Youth. That figures!!
Hardly, I'm 38 with three children!

Sorry, I couldn't help but laugh that you consider yourself to be a seasoned professional! It's about the best oxymoron I've heard in a long time : professional car salesman.
I couldn't help laugh at your choice of vehicle!

Hooty

398 posts

173 months

Friday 26th February 2010
quotequote all
Victor101 said:
Hooty said:
Victor101 said:
Hooty said:
Victor101 said:
It's increasingly becoming a job for gobby 22 year olds rather than seasoned professionals.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! laughlaughlaughlaughlaughlaughlaugh
That'll be you then - a gobby Youth. That figures!!
Hardly, I'm 38 with three children!

Sorry, I couldn't help but laugh that you consider yourself to be a seasoned professional! It's about the best oxymoron I've heard in a long time : professional car salesman.
I couldn't help laugh at your choice of vehicle!
What choice of vehicle would that be then?

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

213 months

Saturday 27th February 2010
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Victor101 said:
parapaul said:
Victor101 said:
Politeness and sincerity are the key ingredients. Don't make promises you cannot keep. Ring the customer every two days with a progress update. Ring them a couple of days after they've taken delivery.

It's not hard really. The first rule is to quickly weigh up a customer - are they genuine, or just in dreamland? Never bullsh*t the customer as you will always get found out - it works the other way too.
Hang on, I thought you were a tt? biggrin That post really suggests you're not...

That's exactly how I was treated the first time I bought from a main dealer. Polite phone calls, polite follow up letters, even a business card with the sales manager's home number on it should I have any problems. I'd never have called it in a million years but to me, that just oozed customer service.
That's the level of service I like to give. I acknowledge that not everyone has pots of money, but the buyer of an £8000 car deserves (and gets) the same courtesy as someone spending £40'000. At the end of the day they are money spending customers and you find that at the lower end of the market the money has been harder earned - if anything I work harder at delivering a good service to these guys even though the actual commission is laughable.
Why? Because they will come back for another, better car at some point because they remember the great service they got.

With regard to the "I thought you were a tt' comment. Well, all I'm saying is how EVERY car salesman thinks and how most act - and I know an awful lot. We enjoy our job, but treat us like Monkeys and you will get a short shrift - in the politest possible manner of course. The holier than thou attitude by some here is laudable but completely misguided.

I have to say thought that it is becoming a less pleasant job every year. You'll find that most dealerships are run by large PLC's and the level of reward for success is shrinking as goalposts are moved. It's increasingly becoming a job for gobby 22 year olds rather than seasoned professionals. That applies to the presige sector as well as the regular Ford/Vauxhall set ups.
Absolutely agree with the sentiment. It does not matter what people spend. People can spend significant amunts of money in my business. Not everyone who I meet will be a client, but everyone deserves the same level of respect, the same service and the same attention to detail.


AshBaldry

364 posts

173 months

Saturday 27th February 2010
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Victor101 said:
nsmith1180 said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
Victor101 said:
Politeness and sincerity are the key ingredients.








You've got a funny way of showing this, chum, on this thread at least.
+1

He makes me ashamed to be a saleman. Never had that before.
Aaah Diddums, never mind Poppit. Whip a Coldplay CD from your Manbag and hope that nasty Man goes away.
haha!!!! I hate manbags!!!