RE: Driven: Bugatti Veyron Super Sport

[Patrick Bateman]

How mature.

[harryowl]

Jaykaybi said:

harryowl said:

Blue Meanie said:

BILL PAYER said:

Blue Meanie said:

BILL PAYER said:

Patrick Bateman said:

BILL PAYER said:

Im no fan of Top Gear but it was not over impressive on the test track. the tyres were screaming for mercy as i recall and if the drag race between the Bugatti and the F1 had been over 1/4 mile as is the norm it would have been a complete miss match in the F1s favour. the bugatti only pulled ahead when its higher top speed came into play

Wasn't overly impressive? What would have been impressive?

Tyres screaming for mercy? On the limit of grip?! Never...

One word "Ultima" it might not have been official but we all know it has gone around there faster than anything else by a long margin and at a fraction of the price

Hardly luxurious, is it...

Its not meant to be its a sports car if you want luxury buy a Bently Merc etc

You see, that is where the comparisons are getting silly. The Veyron is the equivalent of Hugh Hefner's slippers, and a space shuttle. Performance AND luxury. The veyron caters for one of those variables, and the Bentley the other. the Veyron caters for both. It's expensive, but then again a lot of things are.

It may cater for both but it isn't fantatstic at either. It's not specific enough.

Utterly wrong. Just absolutely completely hopelessly wrong. Sorry chap, try one and let me know your thoughts afterwards.

The base model ss costs £1.5m and is 1 second quicker round the TG test track than a car which costs 30 times less. A new RR Ghost saloon will be infintely more comfortable, and you'll save yourself £1.2m!!

[ZeeTacoe]

BILL PAYER said:

ZeeTacoe said:

BILL PAYER said:

ZeeTacoe said:

BILL PAYER said:

Im no fan of Top Gear but it was not over impressive on the test track. the tyres were screaming for mercy as i recall and if the drag race between the Bugatti and the F1 had been over 1/4 mile as is the norm it would have been a complete miss match in the F1s favour. the bugatti only pulled ahead when its higher top speed came into play

Oh noes, the stupid is multiplying.

In that case get off here then mate!

Read what you wrote and then watch any of the Veyron launch control videos on youtube.
Oh and have some of these ''''

Im not a good writer and you dont see so well so try watching the race with your eyes open next time idiot

Pray tell what race?

I hope you aren't seriously still suggesting that the TG race in Dubai was in any way indicative of the power and awesome of the Veyron.

[dvance]

harryowl said:

Jaykaybi said:

harryowl said:

Blue Meanie said:

BILL PAYER said:

Blue Meanie said:

BILL PAYER said:

Patrick Bateman said:

BILL PAYER said:

Im no fan of Top Gear but it was not over impressive on the test track. the tyres were screaming for mercy as i recall and if the drag race between the Bugatti and the F1 had been over 1/4 mile as is the norm it would have been a complete miss match in the F1s favour. the bugatti only pulled ahead when its higher top speed came into play

Wasn't overly impressive? What would have been impressive?

Tyres screaming for mercy? On the limit of grip?! Never...

One word "Ultima" it might not have been official but we all know it has gone around there faster than anything else by a long margin and at a fraction of the price

Hardly luxurious, is it...

Its not meant to be its a sports car if you want luxury buy a Bently Merc etc

You see, that is where the comparisons are getting silly. The Veyron is the equivalent of Hugh Hefner's slippers, and a space shuttle. Performance AND luxury. The veyron caters for one of those variables, and the Bentley the other. the Veyron caters for both. It's expensive, but then again a lot of things are.

It may cater for both but it isn't fantatstic at either. It's not specific enough.

Utterly wrong. Just absolutely completely hopelessly wrong. Sorry chap, try one and let me know your thoughts afterwards.

The base model ss costs £1.5m and is 1 second quicker round the TG test track than a car which costs 30 times less. A new RR Ghost saloon will be infintely more comfortable, and you'll save yourself £1.2m!!

Not all is money in this world. Still you won't be able to go 200+mph in utter timeless comfort

[XitUp]

dvance said:

Not all is money in this world. Still you won't be able to go 200+mph in utter timeless comfort

Has anyone done this. Ever?

[traxx]

ZeeTacoe said:

BILL PAYER said:

ZeeTacoe said:

BILL PAYER said:

ZeeTacoe said:

BILL PAYER said:

Im no fan of Top Gear but it was not over impressive on the test track. the tyres were screaming for mercy as i recall and if the drag race between the Bugatti and the F1 had been over 1/4 mile as is the norm it would have been a complete miss match in the F1s favour. the bugatti only pulled ahead when its higher top speed came into play

Oh noes, the stupid is multiplying.

In that case get off here then mate!

Read what you wrote and then watch any of the Veyron launch control videos on youtube.
Oh and have some of these ''''

Im not a good writer and you dont see so well so try watching the race with your eyes open next time idiot

Pray tell what race?

I hope you aren't seriously still suggesting that the TG race in Dubai was in any way indicative of the power and awesome of the Veyron.

I thought it had been established that on the TG race the Veyron only lost because of its crap driver that changed gear too early (or perhaps they just fixed the result to get the one they wanted for their story). Unless the F1 I drove had something seriously wrong with it I just cant see how it could possibly have kept up with the Veyron on a straight line race.

The Mcf1 is clearly a fantastic and iconic car but its old compared to the Veyron

Personally the SuperSport is far and away "technically" the best roadcar I've ever driven.
BTW I can understand some of the comments regarding the black/orange WSR colours but forget the pictures - in real life the colours work really well

[Debaser]

I'm slightly puzzled by all the negative comments about the Veyron. If I could afford it I'd have one and drive it every day.

[Animal]

XitUp said:

dvance said:

Not all is money in this world. Still you won't be able to go 200+mph in utter timeless comfort

Has anyone done this. Ever?

Thomas Bscher used to regularly commute to work at high speed - in his McLaren F1.

[TonyHetherington]

Animal said:

XitUp said:

dvance said:

Not all is money in this world. Still you won't be able to go 200+mph in utter timeless comfort

Has anyone done this. Ever?

Thomas Bscher used to regularly commute to work at high speed - in his McLaren F1.

Isn't there a great story that he said he hit 200mph everyday on the way to work for a week?! McLaren checked the data from the car and he was telling the truth - he really did hit 200mph every time

[Dagnut]

traxx said:

ZeeTacoe said:

BILL PAYER said:

ZeeTacoe said:

BILL PAYER said:

ZeeTacoe said:

BILL PAYER said:

Im no fan of Top Gear but it was not over impressive on the test track. the tyres were screaming for mercy as i recall and if the drag race between the Bugatti and the F1 had been over 1/4 mile as is the norm it would have been a complete miss match in the F1s favour. the bugatti only pulled ahead when its higher top speed came into play

Oh noes, the stupid is multiplying.

In that case get off here then mate!

Read what you wrote and then watch any of the Veyron launch control videos on youtube.
Oh and have some of these ''''

Im not a good writer and you dont see so well so try watching the race with your eyes open next time idiot

Pray tell what race?

I hope you aren't seriously still suggesting that the TG race in Dubai was in any way indicative of the power and awesome of the Veyron.

I thought it had been established that on the TG race the Veyron only lost because of its crap driver that changed gear too early (or perhaps they just fixed the result to get the one they wanted for their story). Unless the F1 I drove had something seriously wrong with it I just cant see how it could possibly have kept up with the Veyron on a straight line race.

The Mcf1 is clearly a fantastic and iconic car but its old compared to the Veyron

Personally the SuperSport is far and away "technically" the best roadcar I've ever driven.
BTW I can understand some of the comments regarding the black/orange WSR colours but forget the pictures - in real life the colours work really well

How did you get to drive the supersport? (not doubting btw just curious)

[Jaykaybi]

harryowl said:

Jaykaybi said:

harryowl said:

Blue Meanie said:

BILL PAYER said:

Blue Meanie said:

BILL PAYER said:

Patrick Bateman said:

BILL PAYER said:

Im no fan of Top Gear but it was not over impressive on the test track. the tyres were screaming for mercy as i recall and if the drag race between the Bugatti and the F1 had been over 1/4 mile as is the norm it would have been a complete miss match in the F1s favour. the bugatti only pulled ahead when its higher top speed came into play

Wasn't overly impressive? What would have been impressive?

Tyres screaming for mercy? On the limit of grip?! Never...

One word "Ultima" it might not have been official but we all know it has gone around there faster than anything else by a long margin and at a fraction of the price

Hardly luxurious, is it...

Its not meant to be its a sports car if you want luxury buy a Bently Merc etc

You see, that is where the comparisons are getting silly. The Veyron is the equivalent of Hugh Hefner's slippers, and a space shuttle. Performance AND luxury. The veyron caters for one of those variables, and the Bentley the other. the Veyron caters for both. It's expensive, but then again a lot of things are.

It may cater for both but it isn't fantatstic at either. It's not specific enough.

Utterly wrong. Just absolutely completely hopelessly wrong. Sorry chap, try one and let me know your thoughts afterwards.

The base model ss costs £1.5m and is 1 second quicker round the TG test track than a car which costs 30 times less. A new RR Ghost saloon will be infintely more comfortable, and you'll save yourself £1.2m!!

a) So you concede that the big fat luxury blob is faster round the track than a balls out road racer?
b) No, the Roller will be 'opulent' which the Veyron isn't, but comfort in real terms is near enough equal, and the quality certainly is. Everything still feels very special in the Bug.

[LongLiveTazio]

I think the RR is gaudy rather than opulent. Opulent to me says restrained elegance, which is what the Veyron is inside IMO. It's all beautiful materials and restrained forms. Gorgeous.

[RudeDog]

This thread has become really boring.

I've skipped through loads of posts but I will add that anyone trying to compare an Ultima with a Veyron is an idiot

[ewenm]

There's a difference between appreciating the Veyron as an incredible feat of engineering and liking it. One is an objective measure, one is subjective.

[XitUp]

ewenm said:

There's a difference between appreciating the Veyron as an incredible feat of engineering and liking it. One is an objective measure, one is subjective.

This.

Although many of the clever engineering that people go on about was just making things bigger and stronger.

[Murcielago_Boy]

Someone I know drives his base Veyron everyday. The car can do it no problem. It's not about the car - it's about the wallet....

Get up close to one, and jump inside, and it's as luxurious as Rolls Royce Phantom (in a "sporting" way). The build quality is SENSATIONAL as well - totally built without compromise. The only car that's come close in this latter respect, in my experience, has been the Porsche Carrera GT.
I have to confess somewhat sadly as an owner that Ferrari's are still made like dog-crap. When will they learn to engineer quality?

Anyway, back to the Supersport though - that performance - I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous - it's GOT to be experienced. It's one of those things that makes it worth striving to become a billionaire, to experience. If it lives up the hype, great, if it doesn't, at least you know......

[TheArchitect]

RE the Top Gear episode my understanding was the veyron was overheating and they wernt allowed to use launch control. Ive seen a few stories of veyrons struggling in high temperatures how much truth there is i dont know but with the turbos and the amount of cooling it seems feasable. I would worry about the same now with the SS as its going to be even more stretched.

Stunning car though as an engineers exercise its something to be proud of imo. Concorde, Mclaren F1 and this are all truely ground breaking things. I do think VAG shouldnt try to produce a replacement straight away either.

[harryowl]

Jaykaybi said:

harryowl said:

Jaykaybi said:

harryowl said:

Blue Meanie said:

BILL PAYER said:

Blue Meanie said:

BILL PAYER said:

Patrick Bateman said:

BILL PAYER said:

Im no fan of Top Gear but it was not over impressive on the test track. the tyres were screaming for mercy as i recall and if the drag race between the Bugatti and the F1 had been over 1/4 mile as is the norm it would have been a complete miss match in the F1s favour. the bugatti only pulled ahead when its higher top speed came into play

Wasn't overly impressive? What would have been impressive?

Tyres screaming for mercy? On the limit of grip?! Never...

One word "Ultima" it might not have been official but we all know it has gone around there faster than anything else by a long margin and at a fraction of the price

Hardly luxurious, is it...

Its not meant to be its a sports car if you want luxury buy a Bently Merc etc

You see, that is where the comparisons are getting silly. The Veyron is the equivalent of Hugh Hefner's slippers, and a space shuttle. Performance AND luxury. The veyron caters for one of those variables, and the Bentley the other. the Veyron caters for both. It's expensive, but then again a lot of things are.

It may cater for both but it isn't fantatstic at either. It's not specific enough.

Utterly wrong. Just absolutely completely hopelessly wrong. Sorry chap, try one and let me know your thoughts afterwards.

The base model ss costs £1.5m and is 1 second quicker round the TG test track than a car which costs 30 times less. A new RR Ghost saloon will be infintely more comfortable, and you'll save yourself £1.2m!!

a) So you concede that the big fat luxury blob is faster round the track than a balls out road racer?
b) No, the Roller will be 'opulent' which the Veyron isn't, but comfort in real terms is near enough equal, and the quality certainly is. Everything still feels very special in the Bug.

yep, its 1 second quicker than a car designed in the 1950's and built in a shed...

oh, you want a balls out road racer???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6Tr2R37JTU

[Rawwr]

XitUp said:

dvance said:

Not all is money in this world. Still you won't be able to go 200+mph in utter timeless comfort

Has anyone done this. Ever?

Well, anyone who has taken a Veyron to 200mph has, I guess.

[Animal]

Murcielago_Boy said:

I have to confess somewhat sadly as an owner that Ferrari's are still made like dog-crap. When will they learn to engineer quality?

Are Lamborghini the same?