Re : The Alpine A110 (finally) cometh | PH Fleet
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cerb4.5lee said:
I can't see them bothering to be fair. The A110 is a thoroughly modern sports car(in a positive way) with a turbo engine/electric steering/twin clutch gearbox/no LSD. A manual gearbox would be classed as too old hat I reckon.
And more importantly form Alpine's point of view it would have a minimal impact on sales volume.bcr5784 said:
I think that is probably the most cost effective way of reducing weight, without taking out infotainment, carpets, sound insulation or trim. That would probably save about 6kg. Still around £100 for every kg saved.
Saving mass in unsprung, rotating parts is always better bang for buck if it can be done cost effectively - how light are the wheels?otolith said:
Saving mass in unsprung, rotating parts is always better bang for buck if it can be done cost effectively - how light are the wheels?
If you trawl through pistonheads you will find a post quoting the weights of wheels and tyres (pre S). If my memory serves me right the Fuchs wheels were the lightest 18" wheel (as you would expect) - a couple of kilos lighter than the Seracs which (I think) were the heaviest. Perhaps surprisingly the 17" wheel and tyre combination were quoted as 1 kilo or so lighter than the Fuchs tyre/wheel combination. I say surprising because generally the extra weight of a higher profile tyre will offset the weight advantage a small rim might have. That seems to be consistent with Alpine's figures quoting a Pure being 7kg less than a PE - 4kg for the wheels 2.5kg for the (lack of) sports exhaust and a bit more for odds and sods (mirrors, mats .footrest)bcr5784 said:
otolith said:
Saving mass in unsprung, rotating parts is always better bang for buck if it can be done cost effectively - how light are the wheels?
If you trawl through pistonheads you will find a post quoting the weights of wheels and tyres (pre S). If my memory serves me right the Fuchs wheels were the lightest 18" wheel (as you would expect) - a couple of kilos lighter than the Seracs which (I think) were the heaviest. Perhaps surprisingly the 17" wheel and tyre combination were quoted as 1 kilo or so lighter than the Fuchs tyre/wheel combination. I say surprising because generally the extra weight of a higher profile tyre will offset the weight advantage a small rim might have. That seems to be consistent with Alpine's figures quoting a Pure being 7kg less than a PE - 4kg for the wheels 2.5kg for the (lack of) sports exhaust and a bit more for odds and sods (mirrors, mats .footrest)Fuchs
- 1 Rim 18’’ Fuchs Front = 9 Kg + 1 tyre Front 18’’ = 8,9 Kg
- 1 Rim 18’’ Fuchs Rear = 9,4 Kg + 1 tyre Rear 18’’ = 10,2 Kg
- Total car : 75 Kg
17’’ :
- 1 rim 17’’ fr = 8,2 Kg + 1 tyre fr 17’’ = 8,8 Kg
- 1 rim 17’’ rr = 9 Kg + 1 tyre rr 17’’ = 9,9 Kg
- Total car 17’’ : 71.8 Kg
Sérac
- 1 rim 18’’ sérac fr = 10,6 Kg + 1 tyre fr 18’’ = 8,9 Kg
- 1 rim 18’’ sérac rr = 11,3 Kg + 1 tyre rr 18’’ = 10,2 Kg
- Total car 18’’ : 82 Kg
I think those are all 7 and 8 inch rims front to rear, no?
They look similar weights to OEM rims from Lotus, and looking at what one can buy for the Elise (in particular the 17x8 rears) one ought to be able to shave off 1-2kg per wheel with the lightest aftermarket wheels;
https://wiki.seloc.org/a/S2_Wheel_Options
A couple of grand to save 4kg, but 4kg of rotating unsprung weight.
otolith said:
I think those are all 7 and 8 inch rims front to rear, no?
They look similar weights to OEM rims from Lotus, and looking at what one can buy for the Elise (in particular the 17x8 rears) one ought to be able to shave off 1-2kg per wheel with the lightest aftermarket wheels;
https://wiki.seloc.org/a/S2_Wheel_Options
A couple of grand to save 4kg, but 4kg of rotating unsprung weight.
No there are the Legende wheels and the S wheels too - but those are the only ones available on the Pure. I would expect the Fuchs wheels would be the lightest on the S - but the bigger tyres will doubtless make the total weight greater than with the Fuchs option on the Pure. Alpine quote 9kg greater than a PE which I presume is all wheels and tyres.They look similar weights to OEM rims from Lotus, and looking at what one can buy for the Elise (in particular the 17x8 rears) one ought to be able to shave off 1-2kg per wheel with the lightest aftermarket wheels;
https://wiki.seloc.org/a/S2_Wheel_Options
A couple of grand to save 4kg, but 4kg of rotating unsprung weight.
otolith said:
Looks likely there is some weight to be subtracted there, though?
True but changing from Michelins to Goodyear would save you a couple of kg and would be a lot cheaper. In addition although it wouldn't save you as much unsprung weight, it would probably save you more angular momentum. The other alternative are lighter dampers - FAR contributors have found significantly lighter alternatives to the standard item. Ohlins are said to be nearly 10kg lighter in total - albeit costing over 3000 Euro.
All getting too expensive for me. Doubtless some will go to Carbon rims and brakes - probably the way to go if you are really really serious about weight reduction and cost is no object.
bcr5784 said:
Perhaps surprisingly the 17" wheel and tyre combination were quoted as 1 kilo or so lighter than the Fuchs tyre/wheel combination. I say surprising because generally the extra weight of a higher profile tyre will offset the weight advantage a small rim might have.
I assume a tyre with a lower side profile will require more reinforcement in the sidewall which balances out the fact that it will have less rubber.Saving overall weight of the car equals better all-round performance. There’s a bit more to be taken into account when it comes to the unsprung weight of the wheels and the suspension. What’s important, is understanding the tyre contact patch and how it changes in a given situation, and then adjusting the chassis, wheels size, tyres size and pressures too increase the grip and the overall feedback to the driver, this is a area where Alpine excel.
Edited by 100 OCTANE on Saturday 8th February 10:26
Dan, I know you own the A110 Pure but I assume you have also driven the A110S and possibly even a remapped Pure (i.e.) Litchfield.
What's your view on the A110 Pure Vs A110S out on the roads? Sutcliffe And Catchpole seem to really like the A110S whilst many other reviews are a little mixed about it compared to the regular A110.
Given you are an owner and have been following the car since it's development phase, you must have a list of pros and cons to share.
What's your view on the A110 Pure Vs A110S out on the roads? Sutcliffe And Catchpole seem to really like the A110S whilst many other reviews are a little mixed about it compared to the regular A110.
Given you are an owner and have been following the car since it's development phase, you must have a list of pros and cons to share.
cib24 said:
Dan, I know you own the A110 Pure but I assume you have also driven the A110S and possibly even a remapped Pure (i.e.) Litchfield.
What's your view on the A110 Pure Vs A110S out on the roads? Sutcliffe And Catchpole seem to really like the A110S whilst many other reviews are a little mixed about it compared to the regular A110.
Given you are an owner and have been following the car since it's development phase, you must have a list of pros and cons to share.
Dan's asssessment is here https://blog.cargurus.co.uk/alpine-a110s-review-di...What's your view on the A110 Pure Vs A110S out on the roads? Sutcliffe And Catchpole seem to really like the A110S whilst many other reviews are a little mixed about it compared to the regular A110.
Given you are an owner and have been following the car since it's development phase, you must have a list of pros and cons to share.
Sutcliffe is unambiguously in favour of the S, but both Dan and Catchpole ( see https://www.mycarheaven.com/2019/11/alpine-a110s-r... ) are much more equivical - and both seem to say the standard car is the better road car.
cerb4.5lee said:
I'd really like to be one of those people that like both three pedals and two pedals with paddles and then that way you can't lose.
Whereas I dismiss a performance car pretty much straight away when I see that it has only two pedals, because I know that I won't enjoy driving it as much as one with three pedals.
Me personally; I love manual gearboxes more then PDK, DCT, SMG, S-tronic, etc. But; besides my manual M2...we also have a A110 sitting in the garage and actually I don't regret it's not a manual. In sport or track; the DCT gearbox handles really nice and for met it somewhat complements the car. Equal feeling with the 4 cilinder engine; it suits the A110 (my last 4 cilinder car I owned was sold in 2004). Maybe I have indeed the best of both worlds sitting in my garage. As much as I love the A110; I would always like to have at least one manual car in my garage...the drive and joy will always be a little more intens for me. So I have to chose between my M2 and A110....the M2 will stay for various reasons Whereas I dismiss a performance car pretty much straight away when I see that it has only two pedals, because I know that I won't enjoy driving it as much as one with three pedals.
I actually went to the Alpine dealer in St. Albans today to see them in the flesh and sit in the cars to figure out if I wanted to eventually test drive one. They had a blue and grey pure, grey legende with brown interior and a matte grey A110S with the non-forged black wheels. In the flesh the cars look great and are smaller than you expect, even if you knew it wouldn't be large (I arrived in a Mustang which is a boat in comparison).
The S was in the showroom so I checked it out first given it was a little wet outside. First thing, the matte paint is not for me and I didn't like it at all. I also wasn't fussed about the orange calipers or carbon French flag compared to the other models they had there (one with blue calipers and the other with black/grey calipers). The wheels were nice but I'd be going with the lightweight ones to save some weight. The interior was sporty with the suede/alcantara, but I'm not sure I would be that fussed about it. Didn't care for the suede/alcantara headliner or door inserts but I liked it on the seats for additoinal grip and on the steering wheel it was just enough to add some appeal. If I chose an S I would definitely be getting an Iridescent White or even an Alpine Blue one and steer clear of the matte grey.
The Pure's were in Alpine Blue and Thunder Grey Metallic and had black interiors. Both had the Fuchs wheels which looked great. The blue calipers stood out on the Alpine Blue car. I liked the quilted/diamon stitched leather door cards and sides of the seats with the suede in the middle.
The last one was a Thunder Grey Metallic Legende with brown interior and blue stitching. It had the adjustable seats which are also heated, and it had the upgraded audio with the subwoofer behind the passenger seat. The brown interior and blue stitching was amazing, and the gloss carbon fiber inserts throughout the interior look far better than the matte stuff in the Pure and S. The downsides were that the door cards are still black with brown leather arm rests and door straps, and that sorta looks weird. Also, the all leather seats are a bit slippy slidy compared to the suede inserts in the Pure and the S, and the buckets themselves in all of the Alpine's are quite generous for a skinny guy like me. Having said that, the Legende was my favourite and the retro wheels were kind of cool even if I probably wouldn't choose them.
The only issue with all of them and being 6'1" was that to get the steering wheel and seat position where I wanted it, the top 1/4 of the dash would be cut off by the wheel. So, you have to faff around with the Legende adjustable seats and tilt the wheel a bit more than I'd prefer to get it 80% okay. In the Pure or S you can drop the seats via the allen wrench bolts to their lowest position and I wonder if that would d othe trick. It wasn't something I could try at the dealer.
In any case, I'm convinced I'll head back for a test drive during the week when they have their Alpine specialist there, and I will try the Pure, Legende and S on the road to see which really suits me.
The Mustang GT is a nice American grand tourer with some sporting pretensions, so I'm tempted by what the S offers given it's quite a bit more focused, but I was mor attracted to the Pure and Legende cars in terms of appearance and interiors. Perhaps a fully specc'd out Pure (like a Premiere Edition) with upgraded audio, Litchfield remap and Eibach lowering springs is the way to go. In any case, if I can get the driving positoin to work then I'm pretty sure I've found my next car.
The S was in the showroom so I checked it out first given it was a little wet outside. First thing, the matte paint is not for me and I didn't like it at all. I also wasn't fussed about the orange calipers or carbon French flag compared to the other models they had there (one with blue calipers and the other with black/grey calipers). The wheels were nice but I'd be going with the lightweight ones to save some weight. The interior was sporty with the suede/alcantara, but I'm not sure I would be that fussed about it. Didn't care for the suede/alcantara headliner or door inserts but I liked it on the seats for additoinal grip and on the steering wheel it was just enough to add some appeal. If I chose an S I would definitely be getting an Iridescent White or even an Alpine Blue one and steer clear of the matte grey.
The Pure's were in Alpine Blue and Thunder Grey Metallic and had black interiors. Both had the Fuchs wheels which looked great. The blue calipers stood out on the Alpine Blue car. I liked the quilted/diamon stitched leather door cards and sides of the seats with the suede in the middle.
The last one was a Thunder Grey Metallic Legende with brown interior and blue stitching. It had the adjustable seats which are also heated, and it had the upgraded audio with the subwoofer behind the passenger seat. The brown interior and blue stitching was amazing, and the gloss carbon fiber inserts throughout the interior look far better than the matte stuff in the Pure and S. The downsides were that the door cards are still black with brown leather arm rests and door straps, and that sorta looks weird. Also, the all leather seats are a bit slippy slidy compared to the suede inserts in the Pure and the S, and the buckets themselves in all of the Alpine's are quite generous for a skinny guy like me. Having said that, the Legende was my favourite and the retro wheels were kind of cool even if I probably wouldn't choose them.
The only issue with all of them and being 6'1" was that to get the steering wheel and seat position where I wanted it, the top 1/4 of the dash would be cut off by the wheel. So, you have to faff around with the Legende adjustable seats and tilt the wheel a bit more than I'd prefer to get it 80% okay. In the Pure or S you can drop the seats via the allen wrench bolts to their lowest position and I wonder if that would d othe trick. It wasn't something I could try at the dealer.
In any case, I'm convinced I'll head back for a test drive during the week when they have their Alpine specialist there, and I will try the Pure, Legende and S on the road to see which really suits me.
The Mustang GT is a nice American grand tourer with some sporting pretensions, so I'm tempted by what the S offers given it's quite a bit more focused, but I was mor attracted to the Pure and Legende cars in terms of appearance and interiors. Perhaps a fully specc'd out Pure (like a Premiere Edition) with upgraded audio, Litchfield remap and Eibach lowering springs is the way to go. In any case, if I can get the driving positoin to work then I'm pretty sure I've found my next car.
cib24 said:
I actually went to the Alpine dealer in St. Albans today to see them in the flesh and sit in the cars to figure out if I wanted to eventually test drive one. They had a blue and grey pure, grey legende with brown interior and a matte grey A110S with the non-forged black wheels. In the flesh the cars look great and are smaller than you expect, even if you knew it wouldn't be large (I arrived in a Mustang which is a boat in comparison).
The S was in the showroom so I checked it out first given it was a little wet outside. First thing, the matte paint is not for me and I didn't like it at all. I also wasn't fussed about the orange calipers or carbon French flag compared to the other models they had there (one with blue calipers and the other with black/grey calipers). The wheels were nice but I'd be going with the lightweight ones to save some weight. The interior was sporty with the suede/alcantara, but I'm not sure I would be that fussed about it. Didn't care for the suede/alcantara headliner or door inserts but I liked it on the seats for additoinal grip and on the steering wheel it was just enough to add some appeal. If I chose an S I would definitely be getting an Iridescent White or even an Alpine Blue one and steer clear of the matte grey.
The Pure's were in Alpine Blue and Thunder Grey Metallic and had black interiors. Both had the Fuchs wheels which looked great. The blue calipers stood out on the Alpine Blue car. I liked the quilted/diamon stitched leather door cards and sides of the seats with the suede in the middle.
The last one was a Thunder Grey Metallic Legende with brown interior and blue stitching. It had the adjustable seats which are also heated, and it had the upgraded audio with the subwoofer behind the passenger seat. The brown interior and blue stitching was amazing, and the gloss carbon fiber inserts throughout the interior look far better than the matte stuff in the Pure and S. The downsides were that the door cards are still black with brown leather arm rests and door straps, and that sorta looks weird. Also, the all leather seats are a bit slippy slidy compared to the suede inserts in the Pure and the S, and the buckets themselves in all of the Alpine's are quite generous for a skinny guy like me. Having said that, the Legende was my favourite and the retro wheels were kind of cool even if I probably wouldn't choose them.
The only issue with all of them and being 6'1" was that to get the steering wheel and seat position where I wanted it, the top 1/4 of the dash would be cut off by the wheel. So, you have to faff around with the Legende adjustable seats and tilt the wheel a bit more than I'd prefer to get it 80% okay. In the Pure or S you can drop the seats via the allen wrench bolts to their lowest position and I wonder if that would d othe trick. It wasn't something I could try at the dealer.
In any case, I'm convinced I'll head back for a test drive during the week when they have their Alpine specialist there, and I will try the Pure, Legende and S on the road to see which really suits me.
The Mustang GT is a nice American grand tourer with some sporting pretensions, so I'm tempted by what the S offers given it's quite a bit more focused, but I was mor attracted to the Pure and Legende cars in terms of appearance and interiors. Perhaps a fully specc'd out Pure (like a Premiere Edition) with upgraded audio, Litchfield remap and Eibach lowering springs is the way to go. In any case, if I can get the driving positoin to work then I'm pretty sure I've found my next car.
Suggest you give them plenty of notice about dropping the seat for the test drive. Would be a shame to ruin the test drive if the seat wasn’t correct.The S was in the showroom so I checked it out first given it was a little wet outside. First thing, the matte paint is not for me and I didn't like it at all. I also wasn't fussed about the orange calipers or carbon French flag compared to the other models they had there (one with blue calipers and the other with black/grey calipers). The wheels were nice but I'd be going with the lightweight ones to save some weight. The interior was sporty with the suede/alcantara, but I'm not sure I would be that fussed about it. Didn't care for the suede/alcantara headliner or door inserts but I liked it on the seats for additoinal grip and on the steering wheel it was just enough to add some appeal. If I chose an S I would definitely be getting an Iridescent White or even an Alpine Blue one and steer clear of the matte grey.
The Pure's were in Alpine Blue and Thunder Grey Metallic and had black interiors. Both had the Fuchs wheels which looked great. The blue calipers stood out on the Alpine Blue car. I liked the quilted/diamon stitched leather door cards and sides of the seats with the suede in the middle.
The last one was a Thunder Grey Metallic Legende with brown interior and blue stitching. It had the adjustable seats which are also heated, and it had the upgraded audio with the subwoofer behind the passenger seat. The brown interior and blue stitching was amazing, and the gloss carbon fiber inserts throughout the interior look far better than the matte stuff in the Pure and S. The downsides were that the door cards are still black with brown leather arm rests and door straps, and that sorta looks weird. Also, the all leather seats are a bit slippy slidy compared to the suede inserts in the Pure and the S, and the buckets themselves in all of the Alpine's are quite generous for a skinny guy like me. Having said that, the Legende was my favourite and the retro wheels were kind of cool even if I probably wouldn't choose them.
The only issue with all of them and being 6'1" was that to get the steering wheel and seat position where I wanted it, the top 1/4 of the dash would be cut off by the wheel. So, you have to faff around with the Legende adjustable seats and tilt the wheel a bit more than I'd prefer to get it 80% okay. In the Pure or S you can drop the seats via the allen wrench bolts to their lowest position and I wonder if that would d othe trick. It wasn't something I could try at the dealer.
In any case, I'm convinced I'll head back for a test drive during the week when they have their Alpine specialist there, and I will try the Pure, Legende and S on the road to see which really suits me.
The Mustang GT is a nice American grand tourer with some sporting pretensions, so I'm tempted by what the S offers given it's quite a bit more focused, but I was mor attracted to the Pure and Legende cars in terms of appearance and interiors. Perhaps a fully specc'd out Pure (like a Premiere Edition) with upgraded audio, Litchfield remap and Eibach lowering springs is the way to go. In any case, if I can get the driving positoin to work then I'm pretty sure I've found my next car.
Also I’d be concerned about gloss cf reflecting on the windscreen which is why I assumed the original cf had been in a matte finish.
cib24 said:
I actually went to the Alpine dealer in St. Albans today to see them in the flesh and sit in the cars to figure out if I wanted to eventually test drive one. They had a blue and grey pure, grey legende with brown interior and a matte grey A110S with the non-forged black wheels. In the flesh the cars look great and are smaller than you expect, even if you knew it wouldn't be large (I arrived in a Mustang which is a boat in comparison).
The S was in the showroom so I checked it out first given it was a little wet outside. First thing, the matte paint is not for me and I didn't like it at all. I also wasn't fussed about the orange calipers or carbon French flag compared to the other models they had there (one with blue calipers and the other with black/grey calipers). The wheels were nice but I'd be going with the lightweight ones to save some weight. The interior was sporty with the suede/alcantara, but I'm not sure I would be that fussed about it. Didn't care for the suede/alcantara headliner or door inserts but I liked it on the seats for additoinal grip and on the steering wheel it was just enough to add some appeal. If I chose an S I would definitely be getting an Iridescent White or even an Alpine Blue one and steer clear of the matte grey.
The Pure's were in Alpine Blue and Thunder Grey Metallic and had black interiors. Both had the Fuchs wheels which looked great. The blue calipers stood out on the Alpine Blue car. I liked the quilted/diamon stitched leather door cards and sides of the seats with the suede in the middle.
The last one was a Thunder Grey Metallic Legende with brown interior and blue stitching. It had the adjustable seats which are also heated, and it had the upgraded audio with the subwoofer behind the passenger seat. The brown interior and blue stitching was amazing, and the gloss carbon fiber inserts throughout the interior look far better than the matte stuff in the Pure and S. The downsides were that the door cards are still black with brown leather arm rests and door straps, and that sorta looks weird. Also, the all leather seats are a bit slippy slidy compared to the suede inserts in the Pure and the S, and the buckets themselves in all of the Alpine's are quite generous for a skinny guy like me. Having said that, the Legende was my favourite and the retro wheels were kind of cool even if I probably wouldn't choose them.
The only issue with all of them and being 6'1" was that to get the steering wheel and seat position where I wanted it, the top 1/4 of the dash would be cut off by the wheel. So, you have to faff around with the Legende adjustable seats and tilt the wheel a bit more than I'd prefer to get it 80% okay. In the Pure or S you can drop the seats via the allen wrench bolts to their lowest position and I wonder if that would d othe trick. It wasn't something I could try at the dealer.
In any case, I'm convinced I'll head back for a test drive during the week when they have their Alpine specialist there, and I will try the Pure, Legende and S on the road to see which really suits me.
The Mustang GT is a nice American grand tourer with some sporting pretensions, so I'm tempted by what the S offers given it's quite a bit more focused, but I was mor attracted to the Pure and Legende cars in terms of appearance and interiors. Perhaps a fully specc'd out Pure (like a Premiere Edition) with upgraded audio, Litchfield remap and Eibach lowering springs is the way to go. In any case, if I can get the driving positoin to work then I'm pretty sure I've found my next car.
Interesting write up.The S was in the showroom so I checked it out first given it was a little wet outside. First thing, the matte paint is not for me and I didn't like it at all. I also wasn't fussed about the orange calipers or carbon French flag compared to the other models they had there (one with blue calipers and the other with black/grey calipers). The wheels were nice but I'd be going with the lightweight ones to save some weight. The interior was sporty with the suede/alcantara, but I'm not sure I would be that fussed about it. Didn't care for the suede/alcantara headliner or door inserts but I liked it on the seats for additoinal grip and on the steering wheel it was just enough to add some appeal. If I chose an S I would definitely be getting an Iridescent White or even an Alpine Blue one and steer clear of the matte grey.
The Pure's were in Alpine Blue and Thunder Grey Metallic and had black interiors. Both had the Fuchs wheels which looked great. The blue calipers stood out on the Alpine Blue car. I liked the quilted/diamon stitched leather door cards and sides of the seats with the suede in the middle.
The last one was a Thunder Grey Metallic Legende with brown interior and blue stitching. It had the adjustable seats which are also heated, and it had the upgraded audio with the subwoofer behind the passenger seat. The brown interior and blue stitching was amazing, and the gloss carbon fiber inserts throughout the interior look far better than the matte stuff in the Pure and S. The downsides were that the door cards are still black with brown leather arm rests and door straps, and that sorta looks weird. Also, the all leather seats are a bit slippy slidy compared to the suede inserts in the Pure and the S, and the buckets themselves in all of the Alpine's are quite generous for a skinny guy like me. Having said that, the Legende was my favourite and the retro wheels were kind of cool even if I probably wouldn't choose them.
The only issue with all of them and being 6'1" was that to get the steering wheel and seat position where I wanted it, the top 1/4 of the dash would be cut off by the wheel. So, you have to faff around with the Legende adjustable seats and tilt the wheel a bit more than I'd prefer to get it 80% okay. In the Pure or S you can drop the seats via the allen wrench bolts to their lowest position and I wonder if that would d othe trick. It wasn't something I could try at the dealer.
In any case, I'm convinced I'll head back for a test drive during the week when they have their Alpine specialist there, and I will try the Pure, Legende and S on the road to see which really suits me.
The Mustang GT is a nice American grand tourer with some sporting pretensions, so I'm tempted by what the S offers given it's quite a bit more focused, but I was mor attracted to the Pure and Legende cars in terms of appearance and interiors. Perhaps a fully specc'd out Pure (like a Premiere Edition) with upgraded audio, Litchfield remap and Eibach lowering springs is the way to go. In any case, if I can get the driving positoin to work then I'm pretty sure I've found my next car.
Looks like they have 3 cars available for immediate delivery and I also see from the website that they have a finance deal on the Pure (£399 a month) over 4 years with a £26k balloon. Maybe Alpine looking to boost UK sales? Any word on likely discount were you to take one?
Not sure. I only dropped by to see them in the flesh for the first time and nose around and see what it was all about. Plenty of brochure material, a leather luggage bag and other bits to tempt you.
I do think the base pure at £47.8k is what is advertised at £5,000 deposit, £399 per month for 4 years, 4.9% APR. The 4.9% seemed to be available across the range but the deposit and payments differ slightly the higher you go. The Legende spec'd out to the max was like £57.5k new, £10k deposit and £600 per month. No idea on the S. Anyway, I'm sure since these were very lightly used examples minus the S, they could be had for a slight discount to get you started.
However, the 4.9% was for new cars. Not sure if they honour the same on a used model.
I do think the base pure at £47.8k is what is advertised at £5,000 deposit, £399 per month for 4 years, 4.9% APR. The 4.9% seemed to be available across the range but the deposit and payments differ slightly the higher you go. The Legende spec'd out to the max was like £57.5k new, £10k deposit and £600 per month. No idea on the S. Anyway, I'm sure since these were very lightly used examples minus the S, they could be had for a slight discount to get you started.
However, the 4.9% was for new cars. Not sure if they honour the same on a used model.
TurboBlue said:
The PCP deal has been on offer since before I ordered mine in May of last year. There was no discount offered then either. The residual value seems to be holding up too and I believe the factory has reduced output from this year.
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