More cars you didn't know existed...

[Matt Cup]

Allard P4. In an effort to relaunch the brand, defunct British automaker Allard negotiated with Toyota to produce a rebodied Lexus LS400. The deal collapsed, and only three examples were reportedly produced. There is only one P4 left in existence.

[Silvanus]

G-wiz said:

Thought they stopped making these, Renault Espace, or grande Espace:

Not sold in the UK unfortunately. I have a feeling with the rise of the EV and the popularity of cars like the Dacia Jogger and the VW Buzz (two cars at opposite ends of the price spectrum), the lifestyle vehicle (MPV) may be due a comeback. The potential for batteries in the floor, aerodynamic shape, and efficient use of space, would make a lot of sense.

[P5BNij]

I thought I knew a bit about Monteverdis, but I had no idea until today that they made their own version of the Range Rover...






It's about time someone knowledgeable did a definitive book on the company.

[Doofus]

P5BNij said:

It's about time someone knowledgeable did a definitive book on the company.

They have

https://peter-monteverdi.ch/en/book

[P5BNij]

Doofus said:

P5BNij said:

It's about time someone knowledgeable did a definitive book on the company.

They have

https://peter-monteverdi.ch/en/book

Thanks, I did a search but nothing came up. That might just turn into an early birthday present

Edited by P5BNij on Friday 2nd September 20:00

[Doofus]

P5BNij said:

Doofus said:

P5BNij said:

It's about time someone knowledgeable did a definitive book on the company.

They have

https://peter-monteverdi.ch/en/book

Thanks, I did a search but nothing came up.

[HTP99]

Matt Cup said:

Allard P4. In an effort to relaunch the brand, defunct British automaker Allard negotiated with Toyota to produce a rebodied Lexus LS400. The deal collapsed, and only three examples were reportedly produced. There is only one P4 left in existence.

Before I read the blurb I saw that and thought "Bristol".

That thing is hideous.

[Dapster]

HTP99 said:

Matt Cup said:

Allard P4. In an effort to relaunch the brand, defunct British automaker Allard negotiated with Toyota to produce a rebodied Lexus LS400. The deal collapsed, and only three examples were reportedly produced. There is only one P4 left in existence.

Before I read the blurb I saw that and thought "Bristol".

That thing is hideous.

Looks like they spent the design budget on the gorgeous handcrafted artisan interior….

[tomic]

Fiat Tipo saloon

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2022072681...

And it's actually not that bad looking

Edited by tomic on Monday 5th September 10:36

[Lugy]

tomic said:

Fiat Tipo saloon

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/2022072681...

And it's acrually not that bad looking

I've seen a 'Sport' styled one kicking around these parts, I thought it looked quite good (I do like a small saloon car though ).

[BrettMRC]

Dapster said:

HTP99 said:

Matt Cup said:

Allard P4. In an effort to relaunch the brand, defunct British automaker Allard negotiated with Toyota to produce a rebodied Lexus LS400. The deal collapsed, and only three examples were reportedly produced. There is only one P4 left in existence.

Before I read the blurb I saw that and thought "Bristol".

That thing is hideous.

Looks like they spent the design budget on the gorgeous handcrafted artisan interior….

I don't hate it TBH, at least it should be bomb proof!

[ntiz]

Have we had the Bajaj Qute?



Majestic vehicle that I find weirdly interesting. Possibly because I have a bias interest to the company.

[robemcdonald]

I saw a VW Tiago yesterday. Never heard of it before seeing it.

[Silvanus]

robemcdonald said:

I saw a VW Tiago yesterday. Never heard of it before seeing it.

Sub T-cross VW, designed for the south American market and built in Brazil. Very average but will be bought by fashion conscious crossover lovers coz its a premium German vehicle innit. Think Ford EcoSport.

[soxboy]

Silvanus said:

robemcdonald said:

I saw a VW Tiago yesterday. Never heard of it before seeing it.

Sub T-cross VW, designed for the south American market and built in Brazil. Very average but will be bought by fashion conscious crossover lovers coz its a premium German vehicle innit. Think Ford EcoSport.

Are those Polo doors?

[Wildcat45]

Matt Cup said:

Allard P4. In an effort to relaunch the brand, defunct British automaker Allard negotiated with Toyota to produce a rebodied Lexus LS400. The deal collapsed, and only three examples were reportedly produced. There is only one P4 left in existence.

And it lives, or lived in Tynemouth near Newcastle. I say lived because I moved away from there last year so my info may not be up to date.

[Wildcat45]

Wildcat45 said:

Matt Cup said:

Allard P4. In an effort to relaunch the brand, defunct British automaker Allard negotiated with Toyota to produce a rebodied Lexus LS400. The deal collapsed, and only three examples were reportedly produced. There is only one P4 left in existence.

And it lives, or lived in Tynemouth near Newcastle. I say lived because I moved away from there last year so my info may not be up to date.

Not my pictures. Sent to me by a mate who saw the car In Tynemouth.

[GroundEffect]

G-wiz said:

Thought they stopped making these, Renault Espace, or grande Espace:

They've not been in the UK for some time, along with the Scenic. Still available in France.

[Dapster]

robemcdonald said:

I saw a VW Tiago yesterday. Never heard of it before seeing it.

I fell over one of those as well. Seemingly one of VWs Russian doll crossovers explained on this page

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[talksthetorque]

soxboy said:

Silvanus said:

robemcdonald said:

I saw a VW Tiago yesterday. Never heard of it before seeing it.

Sub T-cross VW, designed for the south American market and built in Brazil. Very average but will be bought by fashion conscious crossover lovers coz its a premium German vehicle innit. Think Ford EcoSport.

Are those Polo doors?

Not sure but you've given me a great idea for a sport, using Peugeot 1008s and a long mallet