RE: SOTW: Peugeot 205 GTi 1.6
Discussion
Simes205 said:
Identical - only difference is slightly longer track rods. Although I stuck a 309 PAS rack on my old 205 and didn't need to bother changing the rods, just wound in the ends.
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Mine
Not quite true..the 309 has a wider track front and rear, couple this with the longer wheelbase and it does give for a more stable drive....although I love my 205 1.9 to bits (some of you saw her at the PH Meet at MB world earlier this year)EDIT:
Mine
Edited by Simes205 on Friday 9th December 20:10
She is off to the body shop very shortly for a full resto and respray so expect her to look factory fresh next year
Here she is with my 405 Mi-16 Project car
nick_mcuk said:
Not quite true..the 309 has a wider track front and rear, couple this with the longer wheelbase and it does give for a more stable drive....although I love my 205 1.9 to bits (some of you saw her at the PH Meet at MB world earlier this year)
She is off to the body shop very shortly for a full resto and respray so expect her to look factory fresh next year
Here she is with my 405 Mi-16 Project car
I know I was just talking about the rack.She is off to the body shop very shortly for a full resto and respray so expect her to look factory fresh next year
Here she is with my 405 Mi-16 Project car
Beam
Wishbones
Shafts different
As in wider.
I am probably going to get flamed here and it may be because I hark back to slightly older cars but...
Am I the only one that thinks the 205 was a woefully poor car. I know it was fast, went well and handled brilliantly BUT!!! The build quality was very poor, They were the tinniest thing ever built and compared favourably with the talbot alpine of the time..The dealers being french exacted their revenge for Agincourt with respect to parts prices which were truly exorbitant..Most of them also rusted away within 10 years...
I hated them!
N.
Am I the only one that thinks the 205 was a woefully poor car. I know it was fast, went well and handled brilliantly BUT!!! The build quality was very poor, They were the tinniest thing ever built and compared favourably with the talbot alpine of the time..The dealers being french exacted their revenge for Agincourt with respect to parts prices which were truly exorbitant..Most of them also rusted away within 10 years...
I hated them!
N.
heightswitch said:
I am probably going to get flamed here and it may be because I hark back to slightly older cars but...
Am I the only one that thinks the 205 was a woefully poor car. I know it was fast, went well and handled brilliantly BUT!!! The build quality was very poor, They were the tinniest thing ever built and compared favourably with the talbot alpine of the time..The dealers being french exacted their revenge for Agincourt with respect to parts prices which were truly exorbitant..Most of them also rusted away within 10 years...
I hated them!
N.
RubbishAm I the only one that thinks the 205 was a woefully poor car. I know it was fast, went well and handled brilliantly BUT!!! The build quality was very poor, They were the tinniest thing ever built and compared favourably with the talbot alpine of the time..The dealers being french exacted their revenge for Agincourt with respect to parts prices which were truly exorbitant..Most of them also rusted away within 10 years...
I hated them!
N.
Attym3 said:
Rubbish
thankyou for putting it so succinctly. the idea of 205s being badly put together is utter codswallop.i haven't posted on PH in about 7 years. but when i saw this i was staggered. 205s as a rule well outlasted anything of a similar vintage because they weren't prone to rust (when was the last time you saw an E, H, or even N plate fiesta running around?) and they were incredibly easy to fix and relatively well built.
i had an E plate 205 1.6 GTi when i was 19 (which then, as a 10 year old car was already a fair vintage for something built in the 1980s) that had covered 63k miles at the time and most of the people who saw it were convinced it was a much newer car wearing an odd vanity plate.
it's still around somewhere, i checked the other day, on SORN. E482 RFX was/ is an awesome car.
Great cars, bought my first in 1989 when i was 18 ... alpine white, no sunroof 1.6 ... C39 MRP. Cost me £5500 and around £400 pa insurance on my mums policy. Had the Turbo Technics badge on the back but no conversion and a audioline Graphic equaliser with Moss alarm and a thing on the dash that flashed a red light left and right. Epic car, great fanny magnet ... spent most evenings hooning round the town centre racing RS turbos, Uno turbos and R GT turbos. Happy days!
Had three more since then and would buy my first one back at the drop of a hat if she was still about
Had three more since then and would buy my first one back at the drop of a hat if she was still about
I had my 1989 G plate 1.6 205 GTI from 1999 to late 2003 and did about 40k in it. Prior to that, from 1992 to 1999 it was my Mum's so we had all the service history and knew the car inside out. I sold it for about £900 with exactly 100k on the clock. If I'd held onto it and kept it in good nick I'd probably get more for it now, even with an extra 40k.
What went wrong? Drop links, o/s wishbone, rear shocks replaced, nothing major really. I remember though that it would never, ever tick over properly.
G676UHW (graphite grey, 1.9 alloys, sunroof, red interior, carbon(look) boot panel, clear indicators) where are you now?
And to the guy who said they mostly rusted away in ten years. Total baloney. Mine was 14 years old when I sold it and there wasn't a speck of rust on the bodywork or underneath. How often now do you see a 1988 - 1992 XR3 or Astra GTE for sale. Hardly ever, because they are all in scrap yards. Not true of the 205.
What went wrong? Drop links, o/s wishbone, rear shocks replaced, nothing major really. I remember though that it would never, ever tick over properly.
G676UHW (graphite grey, 1.9 alloys, sunroof, red interior, carbon(look) boot panel, clear indicators) where are you now?
And to the guy who said they mostly rusted away in ten years. Total baloney. Mine was 14 years old when I sold it and there wasn't a speck of rust on the bodywork or underneath. How often now do you see a 1988 - 1992 XR3 or Astra GTE for sale. Hardly ever, because they are all in scrap yards. Not true of the 205.
Edited by RedStrat on Saturday 10th December 12:37
Edited by RedStrat on Saturday 10th December 12:38
I nearly bought a 205 GTI 1.6 when i was 18 but the insurance was £1500!!!! Anyway fast forward a few years and i bought a nice 70k mile 309 SRI which was a superb little car, but unfortunately you can see from the pic, the lift off oversteer caught me out a little bit!!
even on a bone dry road....
But walked away without a scratch. That pic was taken after we towed it out of the ditch and reversed it down the road out of the way. What was hilarious was the local Police who attended the scene in their Mk3 Astra almost wrote their car off at the same corner!!!
heightswitch said:
I am probably going to get flamed here and it may be because I hark back to slightly older cars but...
Am I the only one that thinks the 205 was a woefully poor car. I know it was fast, went well and handled brilliantly BUT!!! The build quality was very poor, They were the tinniest thing ever built and compared favourably with the talbot alpine of the time..The dealers being french exacted their revenge for Agincourt with respect to parts prices which were truly exorbitant..Most of them also rusted away within 10 years...
I hated them!
N.
Total sAm I the only one that thinks the 205 was a woefully poor car. I know it was fast, went well and handled brilliantly BUT!!! The build quality was very poor, They were the tinniest thing ever built and compared favourably with the talbot alpine of the time..The dealers being french exacted their revenge for Agincourt with respect to parts prices which were truly exorbitant..Most of them also rusted away within 10 years...
I hated them!
N.
te sorry!My 205 1.9 GTI doesn't rattle or squeak...all the trim is intact, except for 2 small bits but the damage was my fault for being heavy handed with them.
My car has 136k on the clock and is a 1988 car only has 2 small areas of rust both of which are being sorted in the new year....so your spouting about rust is exactly that.....a spouting from someone who knows nothing! :P
"Most of them rusted away within 10 years".
As opposed to - say - the 1995 Vauxhall Vectra 'B' which was often rusty within 18 months!?
10 years isn't actually bad for a cheap car - but fortunately for Peugeot, they didn't rust away in anything like that time on account of having been properly galvanised (something Audi were still crowing about back then and Ford/Vauxhall still weren't doing properly).
If you see a rusty 205/405/309 or early 306 - it's been damaged - simple as. Otherwise they are pretty rustproof even now.
I've said this before but there's a 205 GTi sitting in a scrapyard not far from here - it's an 'E' plate, it's been there for 3 years that I know of and it's not deteriorated 1 inch in that time. The owner intends to restore it - and about 100 other cars he has in similar condition which aren't lasting anything like as well
As opposed to - say - the 1995 Vauxhall Vectra 'B' which was often rusty within 18 months!?
10 years isn't actually bad for a cheap car - but fortunately for Peugeot, they didn't rust away in anything like that time on account of having been properly galvanised (something Audi were still crowing about back then and Ford/Vauxhall still weren't doing properly).
If you see a rusty 205/405/309 or early 306 - it's been damaged - simple as. Otherwise they are pretty rustproof even now.
I've said this before but there's a 205 GTi sitting in a scrapyard not far from here - it's an 'E' plate, it's been there for 3 years that I know of and it's not deteriorated 1 inch in that time. The owner intends to restore it - and about 100 other cars he has in similar condition which aren't lasting anything like as well
heightswitch said:
I am probably going to get flamed here and it may be because I hark back to slightly older cars but...
Am I the only one that thinks the 205 was a woefully poor car. I know it was fast, went well and handled brilliantly BUT!!! The build quality was very poor, They were the tinniest thing ever built and compared favourably with the talbot alpine of the time..The dealers being french exacted their revenge for Agincourt with respect to parts prices which were truly exorbitant..Most of them also rusted away within 10 years...
I hated them!
N.
I'd have to agree with you. Back in the 90's a mate of mine had several "fast" Peugeots, the last being a 309 GTi, & he was sick of the parts prices & the general build of the cars. So he then started buying fast Renault Clios.....go figure!?Am I the only one that thinks the 205 was a woefully poor car. I know it was fast, went well and handled brilliantly BUT!!! The build quality was very poor, They were the tinniest thing ever built and compared favourably with the talbot alpine of the time..The dealers being french exacted their revenge for Agincourt with respect to parts prices which were truly exorbitant..Most of them also rusted away within 10 years...
I hated them!
N.
Attym3 said:
gavner81 said:
Really, so that explains the STDT K-L reg? Had one of those in metallic green (sorrento?) with beige velour sports seats and that sunroof back in 2001.
<cough> my daily <cough>
Edited by Attym3 on Saturday 10th December 06:58
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