RE: BMW M6 revealed
Discussion
macdeb said:
tommy vercetti said:
Seriously, what is the point you are trying to make?
This is trying now, the point is I have an opinion like you obviously have and because mine differs from yours, you have a problem. FACT; I don't think the BMW M6 is worth anywhere near £98,000
you probably do.
End of, I'm bored now
if yes to those, why not the M6? if it's simply "because it's a BMW" then you're saying you're paying for purely the badge on the other cars, which would be ironic....
E38Ross said:
but do you think the db9 is worth anywhere near it's price tag? jag xkr-s? maserati granturismo S?
if yes to those, why not the M6? if it's simply "because it's a BMW" then you're saying you're paying for purely the badge on the other cars, which would be ironic....
By your name you are a BMW fan, I am not, don't take it so personally.if yes to those, why not the M6? if it's simply "because it's a BMW" then you're saying you're paying for purely the badge on the other cars, which would be ironic....
Really bored now
macdeb said:
E38Ross said:
but do you think the db9 is worth anywhere near it's price tag? jag xkr-s? maserati granturismo S?
if yes to those, why not the M6? if it's simply "because it's a BMW" then you're saying you're paying for purely the badge on the other cars, which would be ironic....
By your name you are a BMW fan, I am not, don't take it so personally.if yes to those, why not the M6? if it's simply "because it's a BMW" then you're saying you're paying for purely the badge on the other cars, which would be ironic....
Really bored now
just answer the questionE38Ross said:
macdeb said:
tommy vercetti said:
Seriously, what is the point you are trying to make?
This is trying now, the point is I have an opinion like you obviously have and because mine differs from yours, you have a problem. FACT; I don't think the BMW M6 is worth anywhere near £98,000
you probably do.
End of, I'm bored now
if yes to those, why not the M6? if it's simply "because it's a BMW" then you're saying you're paying for purely the badge on the other cars, which would be ironic....
E38Ross said:
but do you think the db9 is worth anywhere near it's price tag? jag xkr-s? maserati granturismo S?
if yes to those, why not the M6? if it's simply "because it's a BMW" then you're saying you're paying for purely the badge on the other cars, which would be ironic....
How about this. Because of economy of scale shared parts, design facilities R&D etc etc BMW manufacture cars a lot more efficiently and cheeply than than car makers like Maserati.if yes to those, why not the M6? if it's simply "because it's a BMW" then you're saying you're paying for purely the badge on the other cars, which would be ironic....
I would wager that BMW has more profit margin on an M6 than a Maserati does.
Awesome car put me in the over priced camp. Comapnies decides on prices that they think they can get away with.
If they are going to charge like that on percieved value fine. But I percieve a maserati or Aston as being worth more.
Awesome as an M6 probably is.
Just my opinion, BMW fan boys please don;t have a heart attack ps I do really like BMWs' and will probably own a Z4 at some point and maybe an M3 as well
macdeb said:
tommy vercetti said:
Seriously, what is the point you are trying to make?
This is trying now, the point is I have an opinion like you obviously have and because mine differs from yours, you have a problem. FACT; I don't think the BMW M6 is worth anywhere near £98,000
you probably do.
End of, I'm bored now
Wills2 said:
D200 said:
This car is expensive yes but the new 911 Carrera S is an easy £90k - that is the average price of one with the options it requires. So pricewise it’s on par with the 911. But this car will be faster than a 911 C S - it’s got 911 Turbo Power for Carrera S money. Some people are saying this is Lambo money. I don’t see where you get this out of - for a start a Gallardo would not be competitor to this, Gallardo is a mid engine 2 seater supercar, and costs £160k - so how is it a competitor to this?
Tough choice between this and a 991 Carrera S, I probably go for the porker
Interesting you say faster, the new 991 with PDK does 62 in 4.1secs and 100 in 8.7 so on a par with the new M6, perhaps they could reprise the TG race on the IOM I'd wager the result would be the same. Tough choice between this and a 991 Carrera S, I probably go for the porker
Lovely car though...
Edited by Wills2 on Monday 13th February 14:33
Damm, even the 'standard’ [i.e. non turbo/GT models] 911's are now crazy fast - well I suppose they always were from the 996 onwards - but I think the M6 would have the legs of an 911CS pure straight-line speed. The 911's are great off the line but I think from 30 onwards the forced induction 550+bhp M6 would have it. The old M6 is as fast as a 911 Turbo; I think drivers republic had videos of it of them doing rolling races – I remember watching them years ago, probably on YouTube now
Not that this really matter when you think about it though
both very fast and I would be happy with either. The 911 would obviously be better round a track due to it being over 400kg lighter but a very small minority of 991's and M6's will be near any track
For all this chat of depreciation of M6's - or M cars in general - this is true – but you would think the way people go here they are the only performance car that depreciated heavily whereas in fact 80% of them do
The Merc SLS depreciates about 60k in 6 months if you look at used vlaues. All the dearer Astons and Bentley’s do the same. Even most Porsche 911's depreciate heavily, might not be M6 level of value shedding but still nasty if you buy new. And all premium non executive cars s
t their value massively – all top of range Audi’s and merc’s etc. Evo mag did a feature on this a couple of years ago
I think anyone who buys any of these cars must not care [i.e. are rich enough for it to be of no financial concern] of depreciation otherwise they wouldn’t buy them new. You can write deprecation off against tax so maybe this eases the burden enough
The Merc SLS depreciates about 60k in 6 months if you look at used vlaues. All the dearer Astons and Bentley’s do the same. Even most Porsche 911's depreciate heavily, might not be M6 level of value shedding but still nasty if you buy new. And all premium non executive cars s
t their value massively – all top of range Audi’s and merc’s etc. Evo mag did a feature on this a couple of years agoI think anyone who buys any of these cars must not care [i.e. are rich enough for it to be of no financial concern] of depreciation otherwise they wouldn’t buy them new. You can write deprecation off against tax so maybe this eases the burden enough
D200 said:
Wills2 said:
D200 said:
This car is expensive yes but the new 911 Carrera S is an easy £90k - that is the average price of one with the options it requires. So pricewise it’s on par with the 911. But this car will be faster than a 911 C S - it’s got 911 Turbo Power for Carrera S money. Some people are saying this is Lambo money. I don’t see where you get this out of - for a start a Gallardo would not be competitor to this, Gallardo is a mid engine 2 seater supercar, and costs £160k - so how is it a competitor to this?
Tough choice between this and a 991 Carrera S, I probably go for the porker
Interesting you say faster, the new 991 with PDK does 62 in 4.1secs and 100 in 8.7 so on a par with the new M6, perhaps they could reprise the TG race on the IOM I'd wager the result would be the same. Tough choice between this and a 991 Carrera S, I probably go for the porker
Lovely car though...
Edited by Wills2 on Monday 13th February 14:33
Damm, even the 'standard’ [i.e. non turbo/GT models] 911's are now crazy fast - well I suppose they always were from the 996 onwards - but I think the M6 would have the legs of an 911CS pure straight-line speed. The 911's are great off the line but I think from 30 onwards the forced induction 550+bhp M6 would have it. The old M6 is as fast as a 911 Turbo; I think drivers republic had videos of it of them doing rolling races – I remember watching them years ago, probably on YouTube now
Not that this really matter when you think about it though
both very fast and I would be happy with either. The 911 would obviously be better round a track due to it being over 400kg lighter but a very small minority of 991's and M6's will be near any track
http://pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
a video of GT-R vs the F10 M5.
if a Nissan GT-R can do that to an M5 it will destroy the M6 in exactly the same manner.
Luckily the M6 will have all the luxury trimmings as a redeeming feature to soften the blow.
a video of GT-R vs the F10 M5.
if a Nissan GT-R can do that to an M5 it will destroy the M6 in exactly the same manner.
Luckily the M6 will have all the luxury trimmings as a redeeming feature to soften the blow.
sjn2004 said:
Well the DB9 and Maserati are handbuilt bespoke cars, the latter with the engine out of a California. While the M6 is nice its basic shell is that of a much cheaper mass produced car and performance wise, despite being new is not even close to its main rival.
I'd buy an M6 ahead of a slow, fat Maserati, but not ahead of my own car (which is slower than its Italian rivals and than cheaper Porsches). All about personal taste.
(but I really do think those Maseratis are absurdly lardy)
Schermerhorn said:
http://pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
a video of GT-R vs the F10 M5.
if a Nissan GT-R can do that to an M5 it will destroy the M6 in exactly the same manner.
Luckily the M6 will have all the luxury trimmings as a redeeming feature to soften the blow.
The GTR would do that to every car bar stuff like the Veyron. MP4, 458 etc - it's that fasta video of GT-R vs the F10 M5.
if a Nissan GT-R can do that to an M5 it will destroy the M6 in exactly the same manner.
Luckily the M6 will have all the luxury trimmings as a redeeming feature to soften the blow.
I don't think BMW care how fast the GTR is tbh, its a totally different market they are after, and its performance is 'adequate' for most people
tommy vercetti said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_GK03w2xTM (for those who are interested)
Thats the one - great wee video. A tough job them chaps have ...sjn2004 said:
Hasn't the Nissan GTR made this car obsolete? There is quite a performance gap and the Nissan is 25k less.
By that logic nobody would ever buy another Mercedes SL, Maserati, Jaguar XKR, Aston Martin Vantage ... I like the GTR a lot, and it is certainly very fast, but as a GT car it's not in the same league.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff