N Reg Impreza WRX - Never realised how fast they were..
Discussion
HonestIago said:
s m said:
The ECU map is very similar, apart from some tweaks to the knock sensitivity., to combat the known weaker uk fuel. Some tuners used the P1 map as the base map when tuning the ver5/6 Jim cars.
Inside was made up of Uk switches, TypeR door cards and uk wagon wiring loom (for the kaftan side indicator, uk Aircon control and rear wash wipe).
Basic rule of thought, when the Heavier new age came out in 2001 was that you needed 30bhp/Ib more to have equivalent real world performance. To the lighter classic.
Edited by Hol on Sunday 12th January 08:23
Fruitcake said:
Mr MXT said:
I had a bugeye WRX for a bit. I echo the posters who said they were boring. Mine was a snoozefest.
Sorry mate, but your statement reads like "I once owned a Fiesta 1.1, so XR2's are probably boring as well". Bugeye's, especially the WRX, are reserved for boring people. rb5er said:
FBP1 said:
You're not right, I'm afraid, [/URL]
If I`m not right then you will be able to find me examples or 450bhp to 500bhp Type-R cars in perfect working order advertised for 5-6k.I`m not asking for them immediately but please feel free to let me know in this thread when one pops up in the coming months.
But it wont happen so i wont hold my breath.
As for me doing what you suggest - grow up and educate yourself. wishful thinking doesn't alter the market.
For track use there are a few things that can help, like an oil cooler and a baffled sump plate. I would also change to a stiffer rear ARB and an anti-lift and roll centre kit to change the geometry and reduce understeer. These (cheap) parts and a good geo setup with some negative camber and a touch of toe-in make for a very crisp, fun, fast track car.
The majority of problems (2.5 chocolate pistons aside) occur when people try to tune them on the cheap. Turn up the boost, or fit a bigger turbo without changing internals or using have-a-go mappers.
The majority of problems (2.5 chocolate pistons aside) occur when people try to tune them on the cheap. Turn up the boost, or fit a bigger turbo without changing internals or using have-a-go mappers.
FBP1 said:
If you read my thread you will see that I say it's not what they are advertised at, but it is what they go for, if they are not withdrawn from sale.
As for me doing what you suggest - grow up and educate yourself. wishful thinking doesn't alter the market.
I don`t want to argue with someone that obviously has no clue and spoil this very good thread.As for me doing what you suggest - grow up and educate yourself. wishful thinking doesn't alter the market.
You want to tell me to grow up, well I just said you offer some proof even in the coming months which you obviously cannot manage to do. No wishful thinking on my part I don`t own one but do know people that have bought them and everyone knows what they are worth, 500bhp cars are worth more than standard ones of which anyone can see what they are generaly going for contrary to your ramblings.
Lets just leave it at that. Thanks for your brilliant contributions to and otherwise great thread.
Genuinely had a chuckle at some of the 'knowledgeable' replies, and also nodding in agreement at many of the actually knowledgeable replies too.
To be honest I thought they'd get called out as the preserve of cap wearing 'chav' (overused, abused and little understood word) or lager swilling rugby shirt wearing louts.
But for the most part there seems to be a lot of love for these still capable cars. I think it's highly amusing that some people are happy to call them slow, I don't think anything which can split 60 in under 6 seconds can be called slow.
Yes a lot of modern stuff has caught up to performance levels of the Impreza but bang for buck you still can't fault them. You'd have to spend relatively lots to get the same level of performance.
Also, the understeer thing hasn't raised its head much I've noticed. I once saw these cars as having terminal understeer, which is absolute traffic bollards.
My old Impreza was pretty neutral but could be provoked into a bit of easily controllable sideways motion if the mood took you. That car did have a fast road set up from ABP Motorsport but the chassis and ride height were all factory.
I've recently come back into the Subaru fold again and bought a fairly tidy W reg UK Turbo, totally standard asides a dealer option Prodrive backbox, well nearly a dealer option, the one fitted is actually from a new age so it's half an inch wider at the tailpipe.
I'll whack some pictures up of the current one, but for now a couple of photos of the old Impreza I had:
To be honest I thought they'd get called out as the preserve of cap wearing 'chav' (overused, abused and little understood word) or lager swilling rugby shirt wearing louts.
But for the most part there seems to be a lot of love for these still capable cars. I think it's highly amusing that some people are happy to call them slow, I don't think anything which can split 60 in under 6 seconds can be called slow.
Yes a lot of modern stuff has caught up to performance levels of the Impreza but bang for buck you still can't fault them. You'd have to spend relatively lots to get the same level of performance.
Also, the understeer thing hasn't raised its head much I've noticed. I once saw these cars as having terminal understeer, which is absolute traffic bollards.
My old Impreza was pretty neutral but could be provoked into a bit of easily controllable sideways motion if the mood took you. That car did have a fast road set up from ABP Motorsport but the chassis and ride height were all factory.
I've recently come back into the Subaru fold again and bought a fairly tidy W reg UK Turbo, totally standard asides a dealer option Prodrive backbox, well nearly a dealer option, the one fitted is actually from a new age so it's half an inch wider at the tailpipe.
I'll whack some pictures up of the current one, but for now a couple of photos of the old Impreza I had:
Edited by Bronze on Sunday 12th January 12:35
My turbo 2000 is now very much in shed territory and I have a very hard decision coming up, get rid for pennies or spend the cash it needs and get a few more years out of it.
It owes me nothing, bought as a very nice example 5 years ago then written off in a rear end shunt afer a year. I bought it back and repaired it for £1000 and have ran it as a cat C since then. I've basically had a free car for the last 4 years.
Its mechanically sound and has lead a relatively unstressed life but has really rusty back arches, a dented wing and will soon need tyres and brakes all round as well as coming up to a cam belt change. I keep waiting for something expensive to go so I can get rid but it never lets me down.
Dont even know what I'd replace it with TBH, I've never liked the new age ones as they're far too ugly and nothing is really jumping out as an obvious replacement. Something with the same kind of power, handling, looks and reliability but can also easily get 30mpg as I'm sick of getting low 20's - I dont think it exists.
It owes me nothing, bought as a very nice example 5 years ago then written off in a rear end shunt afer a year. I bought it back and repaired it for £1000 and have ran it as a cat C since then. I've basically had a free car for the last 4 years.
Its mechanically sound and has lead a relatively unstressed life but has really rusty back arches, a dented wing and will soon need tyres and brakes all round as well as coming up to a cam belt change. I keep waiting for something expensive to go so I can get rid but it never lets me down.
Dont even know what I'd replace it with TBH, I've never liked the new age ones as they're far too ugly and nothing is really jumping out as an obvious replacement. Something with the same kind of power, handling, looks and reliability but can also easily get 30mpg as I'm sick of getting low 20's - I dont think it exists.
Hol said:
Basic rule of thought, when the Heavier new age came out in 2001 was that you needed 30bhp/Ib more to have equivalent real world performance. To the lighter classic.
2stis said:
s m said:
Crikey - 15k miles! Have you had it from new?
No, it was used in Japan for the first year or so of its life then imported here where it had a couple of owners before me. I've owned it for the last ten years or so.An Autocar road test record to 30mph with a good launch according to the excerpt below
s m said:
rossub said:
There are one or two of us that are looking after the old 'uns. Mine is nearly 21 years old now...
Standard engine?
Edited by rossub on Saturday 11th January 08:20
At legal speeds there's not much to beat these for an all-rounder for the cash if you can afford the mpg
I couldn't run one of these on 10k miles a year, mine is a summer only toy.
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