RE: Ferrari Portofino: Driven
Discussion
- Straight-forward description of a simple concept: great
- Complicated description of a a complicated concept: tolerable
- Straight-forward description of a complicated concept: Holy grail / take a bow / huzzah / lap of the office / etc!
- Complicated description of a simple concept: Criminal^
^Possible get-out-of-jail if it's particularly funny or elegant.
Yipper said:
Instead of getting immediately to the point and just saying "the Portofino looks like an MX-5 and sounds like a Golf R and is a bit rubbish"
You know, I'm quickly becoming a Yipper fan. Now it's become a more and more obvious that he is trolling for giggles, it's actually quite amusing. Go Team Yipper!!! 
Yipper is the Honest Trailers of the PH forum.
PhantomPH said:
Yipper said:
Instead of getting immediately to the point and just saying "the Portofino looks like an MX-5 and sounds like a Golf R and is a bit rubbish"
You know, I'm quickly becoming a Yipper fan. Now it's become a more and more obvious that he is trolling for giggles, it's actually quite amusing. Go Team Yipper!!! Yipper is the Honest Trailers of the PH forum.
Yipee Yidee Yici
I for one welcome our Yippish overlord.
I don't like jumping on bandwagons, but reading Cackett's recent stuff on here has been more of a chore than a pleasure. Plenty of examples in the thread above where he has spouted what is basically utter 
.
Hopefully the management team are reading these responses, perhaps they're not, but if they are I hope they're considering the probability that it's time to hand the baton to someone else...
.Hopefully the management team are reading these responses, perhaps they're not, but if they are I hope they're considering the probability that it's time to hand the baton to someone else...
SpeckledJim said:
PhantomPH said:
Yipper said:
Instead of getting immediately to the point and just saying "the Portofino looks like an MX-5 and sounds like a Golf R and is a bit rubbish"
You know, I'm quickly becoming a Yipper fan. Now it's become a more and more obvious that he is trolling for giggles, it's actually quite amusing. Go Team Yipper!!! Yipper is the Honest Trailers of the PH forum.
Yipee Yidee Yici
I for one welcome our Yippish overlord.
Good job we're all still allowed an opinion though
Yipper said:
A main issue with PH articles is -- they pander too much to the PH baying mob.
Instead of getting immediately to the point and just saying "the Portofino looks like an MX-5 and sounds like a Golf R and is a bit rubbish"... they will walk around the houses to try and deflect criticism before everyone jumps on the thread to put the boot in... As a result, 10-to-20-word sentences often become 20-to-50-word unreadable waffle.
You need to sit down for 10 minutes in the gents Yipper, it's starting to come out of your mouth.Instead of getting immediately to the point and just saying "the Portofino looks like an MX-5 and sounds like a Golf R and is a bit rubbish"... they will walk around the houses to try and deflect criticism before everyone jumps on the thread to put the boot in... As a result, 10-to-20-word sentences often become 20-to-50-word unreadable waffle.
ReverendCounter said:
UmpaLoompa said:
I hope they're considering the probability that it's time to hand the baton to someone else...
In my opinion, when NC writes in a more straightforward manner, the result is concise and informative and there's a good readership waiting for suitably written articles.When I see an article posted on the home page I always look to see who wrote it and my heart sinks when it's NC, most if his articles are just plain hard work. He came in for similar criticism when he was writing on Autocar which must be the reason for his sideways move to PH. Surely in the Haymarket portfolio there must be another publication that is crying out for his work, Steam Engine monthly perhaps?
epom said:
Anyone got one on order ??
Yes ...and an 812 Superfast ...Regarding rear seats - I'm 6'5" so any car purporting to be a 2+2 , for me is a 2+1.
Having said that, in the past I have owned a Maserati 3200GT, a Nissan GT-R, a Maserati GranCabrio and two Maserati GranTurismos and they have all been ok for rear seat passengers with me at the wheel.
GC
Mr-B said:
Agree on both points.
When I see an article posted on the home page I always look to see who wrote it and my heart sinks when it's NC, most if his articles are just plain hard work. He came in for similar criticism when he was writing on Autocar which must be the reason for his sideways move to PH. Surely in the Haymarket portfolio there must be another publication that is crying out for his work, Steam Engine monthly perhaps?
When I see an article posted on the home page I always look to see who wrote it and my heart sinks when it's NC, most if his articles are just plain hard work. He came in for similar criticism when he was writing on Autocar which must be the reason for his sideways move to PH. Surely in the Haymarket portfolio there must be another publication that is crying out for his work, Steam Engine monthly perhaps?
http://www.haymarket.com/brands
Take your pick ... there are 70 titles to choose from - here are my suggestions :
"Granted, there's a tiny bit of fuss about some of the new creases ..."
A tiny bit of fuss? It's way over-styled, and very disappointing for a Ferrari. That side view in particular is a styling disaster. It looks as though it's been T-boned on the sill under the door.
And I agree that the interior is a mess, as well.
It's a real shame. Ferrari seem to have decided that sales must be increased at all costs, even if it does mean that they have to pander to fashionable whims instead of producing cars that they really want to produce. I guess it's because it's now a public company, with nasty, avaricious shareholders to pacify.
It can only be a matter of time before they announce a hideous SUV - maybe they can call it the Ferrari F150.
A tiny bit of fuss? It's way over-styled, and very disappointing for a Ferrari. That side view in particular is a styling disaster. It looks as though it's been T-boned on the sill under the door.
And I agree that the interior is a mess, as well.
It's a real shame. Ferrari seem to have decided that sales must be increased at all costs, even if it does mean that they have to pander to fashionable whims instead of producing cars that they really want to produce. I guess it's because it's now a public company, with nasty, avaricious shareholders to pacify.
It can only be a matter of time before they announce a hideous SUV - maybe they can call it the Ferrari F150.
F355GTS said:
BVB said:
Interestingly the California it replaces was the car that almost all female Ferrari customers bought. About 80% of it's sales were to women. The Portofino is stunning and I'm sure the ladies will be queuing for ownership.
Be interested in your data source, sounds like a Clarkson comment to me. I owned 3, one of them twice and most of the other owners I know/ have met were most definitely maleRe the portofino I think it will look better in real life than the pics and will sell very well. Having read a couple of reviews where journalists say it's not a 458/488 dynamically that's the whole point. It sits higher your bum is not on the road and is a more usable car
RobDickinson said:
Exterior over styled, too buys too much going on where is the sleek subtle lines and elegance?
And the inside looks like they loaded buttons into a shotgun and let go..
The basic proportions of the car, the haunches etc just are frumpy too, no change from the previous model.
And the inside looks like they loaded buttons into a shotgun and let go..
The basic proportions of the car, the haunches etc just are frumpy too, no change from the previous model.
Pro Bono said:
It's a real shame. Ferrari seem to have decided that sales must be increased at all costs, even if it does mean that they have to pander to fashionable whims instead of producing cars that they really want to produce. I guess it's because it's now a public company, with nasty, avaricious shareholders to pacify.
I take it neither of you two party animals are buying one then ?Edited by nickfrog on Friday 16th February 21:02
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