I've become bored of cars.
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cerb4.5lee said:
C70R said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Skeptisk said:
As others have said, buy something that is older and far less capable, which demands more of the driver. An early 911 weighing around a tonne with 180-200 bhp is about perfect.
Re: the OP, you need a more excting car. I had a beautiful brand new 2019 M240i which was brilliant in every way apart from being an auto and having the worlds' quiest exhaust. It was very, very quick and very very capable and very very boring.
The crappy old 2003 Boxster I swapped it for however, has completely reignited my love of driving and cars in general.
_Mja_ said:
If you liked the older Porsches etc why not get yourself one again - an analogue car in the modern era. I couldn't be less interested in DCT/DSG this and that with 300/400 hp. Give me a 80s/90s motor any day and whilst I might not be the quickest car out there I sure as hell have the most engaging ownership experience.
I agree, my old Porsche (1990's 911) is not quick by todays hot hatch standards, but it is relatively small, nimble and engaging to drive on country roads.I am afraid to say that I too have very little interest in more modern metal.
I think the OP may just be growing up a bit. I like to have a bit of power for when it's needed, but never did 90 exiting a Tescos. I've always been a car nut but was never bothered about supercars. Too unattainable, too impractical and most people look like t
ts in them. My enthusiasm in general has also waned a lot. I agree with the point about the mx5, which is a masterpiece. My 1999 model had handling, and more importantly ride comfort that couldn't be matched by most saloons.
If I were wanting a sports car, I'd probably go for a Fiat 124 Spider, whch has enough MX5 in it, but looks much nicer.
ts in them. My enthusiasm in general has also waned a lot. I agree with the point about the mx5, which is a masterpiece. My 1999 model had handling, and more importantly ride comfort that couldn't be matched by most saloons.If I were wanting a sports car, I'd probably go for a Fiat 124 Spider, whch has enough MX5 in it, but looks much nicer.
lornemalvo said:
I think the OP may just be growing up a bit. I like to have a bit of power for when it's needed, but never did 90 exiting a Tescos. I've always been a car nut but was never bothered about supercars. Too unattainable, too impractical and most people look like tts in them. My enthusiasm in general has also waned a lot. I agree with the point about the mx5, which is a masterpiece. My 1999 model had handling, and more importantly ride comfort that couldn't be matched by most saloons.
If I were wanting a sports car, I'd probably go for a Fiat 124 Spider, whch has enough MX5 in it, but looks much nicer.
Be a boring world if we all had similar views, but it irks that anybodythought'd it be a good idea to stick a fiat badge and small capacity turbo engine in a mx5.ts in them. My enthusiasm in general has also waned a lot. I agree with the point about the mx5, which is a masterpiece. My 1999 model had handling, and more importantly ride comfort that couldn't be matched by most saloons.If I were wanting a sports car, I'd probably go for a Fiat 124 Spider, whch has enough MX5 in it, but looks much nicer.
SuffolkDefender said:
But...
It's too fast. I've come to realise that it's utterly, utterly pointless on the road. It smashes over bumps and crashes and bangs. And, at 400+bhp, there's no place for you to exercise it's legs. Near every time I go out in it I'm doing 100mph at some point; leave Tesco, nice long straight, braaaaaap and dong there goes the speed warning at 90mph and I'm doing 100mph by then.
I also have an old Focus worth about a grand, and a Pulsar GTIR. The Pulsar is pretty good fun because you don't have to be doing a million miles an hour for it to be fun. I had an old MX5 a few years ago - wish I'd kept that because you could thrash it everywhere and you'd still only be doing 80mph.
Maybe a little similar to yourself OP, but I'm not bored of cars per se, but utterly turned off by 'modern' stuff, since about 2010 onwards I think.It's too fast. I've come to realise that it's utterly, utterly pointless on the road. It smashes over bumps and crashes and bangs. And, at 400+bhp, there's no place for you to exercise it's legs. Near every time I go out in it I'm doing 100mph at some point; leave Tesco, nice long straight, braaaaaap and dong there goes the speed warning at 90mph and I'm doing 100mph by then.
I also have an old Focus worth about a grand, and a Pulsar GTIR. The Pulsar is pretty good fun because you don't have to be doing a million miles an hour for it to be fun. I had an old MX5 a few years ago - wish I'd kept that because you could thrash it everywhere and you'd still only be doing 80mph.
From that date onwards the ever increasing authoritarian government fingers in the pie crept in, in terms of emissions, exhaust sound, allowable car design, etc. On top of this cars keep increasing in size, becoming bloated to the nth degree, along with butt-ugly looking front and back ends, full of automotive fakery such as fake exhausts, fake vents, fake diffusers, fake engine noises pumped in to the cabin, fake pops and bangs, fake limited slip diffs (so called e-diffs) and so on.
This is even before we come to the fundamentals of what makes a car good to drive, which is (for me) a manual 6-speed gearbox mated to a RWD chassis, that has a mechanical limited slip differential to deliver power through both wheels to the road. All tied up in a nice practical sports-GT coupe shaped body.
A package that offers practical long distance driving, the ability to take it on track an not be embarrassed, all round good road handling and an engine powerful enough to put a smile on your face. (So about 400bhp area or above)
The market for such these days is poor, especially in terms of affordability, if such criteria exists at all in the new or 2nd hand car market, which I don't think I can find any examples currently.
The Toyota MkIV Supra ticked all the boxes for me, I used to own one but unfortunately sold it on when prices rocketed, a big mistake on my behalf because you quickly become to realise that they simply aren't making cars like that anymore. And when you can't find a car to drive that ticks your boxes, you quickly become disheartened and uninterested in it all.
Due to a waning interest I struggle to find any logic at all in paying the ludicrous and often laughably high asking prices that the market deems cars to be worth these days, given what they were just a few years back and given all the fakery and lack of fundamentals that I would miss if I bought one.
So I sympathise with you OP.
C70R said:
pherlopolus said:
C70R said:
pherlopolus said:
For 36k you can get a low mileage vantage, for the same as a mid spec karoq. Ok running costs will be a bit more but it's and Aston Martin.
Running costs will be incomparable.A friend of mine ran one and it was eye-opening - he got a stone chip in one of his headlights, and couldn't find a good replacement for less than 7-800.
It really is a different league from your imagination.
pherlopolus said:
I had an aging s-type Jag for a while that cost me 5k in 18 months. Thanks for your concern though, I will do even more homework!
Don't be too put off. These are robust and reliable cars in most cases. It is only when something significant goes wrong that the parts are unfortunately a bit toppy. I've had 2 Vantages owned over a period of about 6 years and I've only had one big expense when the front LEDs failed and had to be replaced. This cost a couple of grand however I could have had then fixed instead for a good deal less. You do get the odd niggle and must accept that tires, brakes, clutch etc will be expensive but they don't need replacing every year and not at all if you buy well.What I am saying in a long winded way is that for 5 out of the 6 years I've had a Vantage the cost has simply been the service cost.
Slow said:
Superflow said:
I think it just happens to many as you get older.Almost everything new leaves me cold so I may buy and enjoy something from the nineties when the market corrects.
Im 27 and this has already happened. I also look at 90s/early 2000s cars for anything remotely fun.I’m twenty years older than you but you’re clearly a man with good taste.
Jaguar steve said:
SidewaysSi said:
Anyway, how's the yacht?
Since you asked, well found, capable and seaworthy, thanks.No puffed-up pride in ownership or incessant posing and polishing and relentless posting of photos on social media needed to enjoy sailing it either.
It's a win-win.
And then where you go through and quote all of the positive comments and thank them for saying nice things about your material possession?
I find it all so weird.
Edited by C70R on Monday 23 May 17:18
C70R said:
Slow said:
C70R said:
Slow said:
C70R said:
Quavers said:
Years ago there was a sense of achievement when you bought something nice.
But not anymore - everybody has the latest good thing on tick. That feeling of " I've made it" has gone.
I drive an 18 year old e60 - oddly I have been looking at mk3 cavaliers a lot lately.....
I've never understood this sense of achievement thing in buying something. I don't get people who are 'proud' of their cars.But not anymore - everybody has the latest good thing on tick. That feeling of " I've made it" has gone.
I drive an 18 year old e60 - oddly I have been looking at mk3 cavaliers a lot lately.....
Be proud of your family, your health, your personal achievements. Don't be proud because you've bought something.
Edited by lornemalvo on Tuesday 24th May 20:57
Jaguar steve said:
SidewaysSi said:
Anyway, how's the yacht?
Since you asked, well found, capable and seaworthy, thanks.No puffed-up pride in ownership or incessant posing and polishing and relentless posting of photos on social media needed to enjoy sailing it either.
It's a win-win.
Lovely.
My job is very boring, I'm an office clerk; it also doesn't pay much so I am, still, driving the car that we bought second-hand thirteen odd years ago. There's no traction control, emergency braking, speed warnings or things to tell you what gear to be in; it doesn't have blue teeth, LED whatsits or an egg shaped steering wheel. All that's there is normally aspirated petrol engine, four respectably sized wheels, a manual gearbox, electric windows in the front and a CD player. There was air conditioning, but it's broken.
According to you lot it's motoring nirvana. More fun than a Farrago Megaforza or a Lambrini Dulcegusto or whatever supercars rich people drive these days, and certainly better than Ellen Musk's latest domestic appliance.
You might think you're having a good time sitting in The Fat Duck or similar, but you'd rather be in a Yates's Wine Lodge. Admit it.
More to the point: what is all this technology for? You might be able to read emails whilst driving, but what's the point? Bugger it, do it when you get there. Your job is very boring and you too are an office clerk, albeit one with a better salary; stop pretending it's so important.
In the future we will have self-driving cars which will have computer games machines built in to entertain the driver during the journey. Some 'drivers' will choose to play driving computer games on their cars' computers whilst the car drives for them. Strange times indeed.
According to you lot it's motoring nirvana. More fun than a Farrago Megaforza or a Lambrini Dulcegusto or whatever supercars rich people drive these days, and certainly better than Ellen Musk's latest domestic appliance.
You might think you're having a good time sitting in The Fat Duck or similar, but you'd rather be in a Yates's Wine Lodge. Admit it.
More to the point: what is all this technology for? You might be able to read emails whilst driving, but what's the point? Bugger it, do it when you get there. Your job is very boring and you too are an office clerk, albeit one with a better salary; stop pretending it's so important.
In the future we will have self-driving cars which will have computer games machines built in to entertain the driver during the journey. Some 'drivers' will choose to play driving computer games on their cars' computers whilst the car drives for them. Strange times indeed.
lornemalvo said:
Nothing more weird than being judgemental of the feelings of others. A previous poster put it better when he mentioned invalidating the feelings of others. We are all different. I am proud that I raided three wonderful girls. I could say that I'm proud that I left school at 15 with nothing but worked my arse off and am now quite well off (not rich but well off). I would not use the word pride for that advancement, possibly satisfaction, but it's only semantics.
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