RE: Rover 75 Tourer | Shed of the Week
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I knew of 2 people that exchanged their E Class Mercedes for the more performance oriented 75’s back in 2004. One was new with the other about a year old.
They both regretted it bitterly and didn’t keep them long. One went back to Mercedes and the other Lexus.
Another friend of my parents who usually keeps his cars for 12 plus years bought a 75 Saloon in that Metallic Blue colour and changed it within 18 months. He bought a Saab.
They both regretted it bitterly and didn’t keep them long. One went back to Mercedes and the other Lexus.
Another friend of my parents who usually keeps his cars for 12 plus years bought a 75 Saloon in that Metallic Blue colour and changed it within 18 months. He bought a Saab.
SebastienClement said:
Muddle238 said:
This is our Tourer, currently sitting a little over 160k miles; diesel auto, had it for almost five years.
As a comfy thing to waft along in, it’s hard to beat. Personally I like it because it’s a bit of an antidote to the “modern car”; it has a calm and comfortable interior, creams and beiges with actual walnut, it doesn’t look aggressive or pretend to be sporty or fast, no bing or bonging noises, no bloody touchscreen, no 19” alloys on rubber band tyres and no rock-hard suspension.
It’ll sit four comfortably plus luggage, all day long at 80 on the French Peage, or happily waft around the British countryside pitching and rolling like an ocean-going liner as it soaks up the lumps, bumps and undulations.
Whenever I drive more modern cars, I find they leave me a bit cold. Yes, they’re invariably going to be quicker to 60, better an overtaking, able to corner flatter, have more useless tech such as touchscreens or apps or keyless this and that, but no matter how much better they are on paper, the reality is that lack a certain charisma of an old BRG Rover estate with a big old lump of walnut on the dash.
Not as good as the German alternatives? Here’s what the Germans said about the ZT at the time:
https://youtu.be/ZK7UKlpHL18
https://youtu.be/ZK7UKlpHL18
Rob 131 Sport said:
I knew of 2 people that exchanged their E Class Mercedes for the more performance oriented 75’s back in 2004. One was new with the other about a year old.
They both regretted it bitterly and didn’t keep them long. One went back to Mercedes and the other Lexus.
Another friend of my parents who usually keeps his cars for 12 plus years bought a 75 Saloon in that Metallic Blue colour and changed it within 18 months. He bought a Saab.
Great stories.They both regretted it bitterly and didn’t keep them long. One went back to Mercedes and the other Lexus.
Another friend of my parents who usually keeps his cars for 12 plus years bought a 75 Saloon in that Metallic Blue colour and changed it within 18 months. He bought a Saab.
Interesting how people who seem to significantly dislike the 75 always compare it with cars that were in the sector above. The 75 had a considerably lower RRP than equivalent 3 series, C Class. Seems unfair to then compare it unfavourably with the 5 series, E Class, S Types. Although absolutely hilarious that those same E classes are probably now in a scrap yard somewhere, condemned with terminal rust and electrical gremlins.
And your mate’s Dad purchased a Saab after selling his 75….maybe he just needed a bigger car?
Edited by Silver75 on Sunday 26th June 10:06
OutInTheShed said:
I've seen a couple of 75s recently.
The steamy windows of doom look about them.
These cars were prone to the heater air intake plenum filling with water if you parked in the same county as a deciduous tree.
The 'body computer' would then suffer terribly.
Whilst you are partly correct, if you clean the scuttle drain out and keep it clear you will get no issues with water getting to the BCM.The steamy windows of doom look about them.
These cars were prone to the heater air intake plenum filling with water if you parked in the same county as a deciduous tree.
The 'body computer' would then suffer terribly.
wpa1975 said:
OutInTheShed said:
I've seen a couple of 75s recently.
The steamy windows of doom look about them.
These cars were prone to the heater air intake plenum filling with water if you parked in the same county as a deciduous tree.
The 'body computer' would then suffer terribly.
Whilst you are partly correct, if you clean the scuttle drain out and keep it clear you will get no issues with water getting to the BCM.The steamy windows of doom look about them.
These cars were prone to the heater air intake plenum filling with water if you parked in the same county as a deciduous tree.
The 'body computer' would then suffer terribly.
SebastienClement said:
Muddle238 said:
This is our Tourer, currently sitting a little over 160k miles; diesel auto, had it for almost five years.
As a comfy thing to waft along in, it’s hard to beat. Personally I like it because it’s a bit of an antidote to the “modern car”; it has a calm and comfortable interior, creams and beiges with actual walnut, it doesn’t look aggressive or pretend to be sporty or fast, no bing or bonging noises, no bloody touchscreen, no 19” alloys on rubber band tyres and no rock-hard suspension.
It’ll sit four comfortably plus luggage, all day long at 80 on the French Peage, or happily waft around the British countryside pitching and rolling like an ocean-going liner as it soaks up the lumps, bumps and undulations.
Whenever I drive more modern cars, I find they leave me a bit cold. Yes, they’re invariably going to be quicker to 60, better an overtaking, able to corner flatter, have more useless tech such as touchscreens or apps or keyless this and that, but no matter how much better they are on paper, the reality is that lack a certain charisma of an old BRG Rover estate with a big old lump of walnut on the dash.
I took the roof bars off because I was finding birds were routinely using them as a roosting perch overnight, followed by a convenient khazi point in the morning…
Jawls said:
These are £330 to tax. Didn’t know that! That puts a bit of a dent in the otherwise v respectable shed credentials.
I had a bit of a shock one day when i noticed the cost of a mate's Freelander 1 HSE auto with the BMW Diesel engine, highest rate possible.I assumed shirley some mistake, looked it up when i got home, sure enough the HSE really went into the highest tax bracket with just a fairly basic 2 litre Diesel.
The highest rate cars regd after March 2006 will drop in value like hell once they become sheds, well over £600 this year.
Smint said:
I had a bit of a shock one day when i noticed the cost of a mate's Freelander 1 HSE auto with the BMW Diesel engine, highest rate possible.
I assumed shirley some mistake, looked it up when i got home, sure enough the HSE really went into the highest tax bracket with just a fairly basic 2 litre Diesel.
The highest rate cars regd after March 2006 will drop in value like hell once they become sheds, well over £600 this year.
Very few 75/ZTs are on an 06 plate or newer, although I have seen some as “new” as 08… a little artificial given the factory doors closed in April 2005. I assumed shirley some mistake, looked it up when i got home, sure enough the HSE really went into the highest tax bracket with just a fairly basic 2 litre Diesel.
The highest rate cars regd after March 2006 will drop in value like hell once they become sheds, well over £600 this year.
However some will still advertise the newer reg cars as somehow “younger”, which of course is balderdash, but in having a “younger” reg you’ll encounter some monsterous VED rates.
The £330 on this auto diesel is the same as mine, but from memory it’s about £100 less on the diesel manual.
Silver75 said:
Rob 131 Sport said:
I knew of 2 people that exchanged their E Class Mercedes for the more performance oriented 75’s back in 2004. One was new with the other about a year old.
They both regretted it bitterly and didn’t keep them long. One went back to Mercedes and the other Lexus.
Another friend of my parents who usually keeps his cars for 12 plus years bought a 75 Saloon in that Metallic Blue colour and changed it within 18 months. He bought a Saab.
Great stories.They both regretted it bitterly and didn’t keep them long. One went back to Mercedes and the other Lexus.
Another friend of my parents who usually keeps his cars for 12 plus years bought a 75 Saloon in that Metallic Blue colour and changed it within 18 months. He bought a Saab.
Interesting how people who seem to significantly dislike the 75 always compare it with cars that were in the sector above. The 75 had a considerably lower RRP than equivalent 3 series, C Class. Seems unfair to then compare it unfavourably with the 5 series, E Class, S Types. Although absolutely hilarious that those same E classes are probably now in a scrap yard somewhere, condemned with terminal rust and electrical gremlins.
And your mate’s Dad purchased a Saab after selling his 75….maybe he just needed a bigger car?
Edited by Silver75 on Sunday 26th June 10:06
Pathetic.
Muddle238 said:
Smint said:
I had a bit of a shock one day when i noticed the cost of a mate's Freelander 1 HSE auto with the BMW Diesel engine, highest rate possible.
I assumed shirley some mistake, looked it up when i got home, sure enough the HSE really went into the highest tax bracket with just a fairly basic 2 litre Diesel.
The highest rate cars regd after March 2006 will drop in value like hell once they become sheds, well over £600 this year.
Very few 75/ZTs are on an 06 plate or newer, although I have seen some as “new” as 08… a little artificial given the factory doors closed in April 2005. I assumed shirley some mistake, looked it up when i got home, sure enough the HSE really went into the highest tax bracket with just a fairly basic 2 litre Diesel.
The highest rate cars regd after March 2006 will drop in value like hell once they become sheds, well over £600 this year.
However some will still advertise the newer reg cars as somehow “younger”, which of course is balderdash, but in having a “younger” reg you’ll encounter some monsterous VED rates.
The £330 on this auto diesel is the same as mine, but from memory it’s about £100 less on the diesel manual.
Smint said:
SebastienClement said:
Muddle238 said:
This is our Tourer, currently sitting a little over 160k miles; diesel auto, had it for almost five years.
As a comfy thing to waft along in, it’s hard to beat. Personally I like it because it’s a bit of an antidote to the “modern car”; it has a calm and comfortable interior, creams and beiges with actual walnut, it doesn’t look aggressive or pretend to be sporty or fast, no bing or bonging noises, no bloody touchscreen, no 19” alloys on rubber band tyres and no rock-hard suspension.
It’ll sit four comfortably plus luggage, all day long at 80 on the French Peage, or happily waft around the British countryside pitching and rolling like an ocean-going liner as it soaks up the lumps, bumps and undulations.
Whenever I drive more modern cars, I find they leave me a bit cold. Yes, they’re invariably going to be quicker to 60, better an overtaking, able to corner flatter, have more useless tech such as touchscreens or apps or keyless this and that, but no matter how much better they are on paper, the reality is that lack a certain charisma of an old BRG Rover estate with a big old lump of walnut on the dash.
The ones slating 75's have likely never driven one.
Bit of a fan of these...
Prices are slowly starting to increase, especially with the years passing resulting in fewer being on the road!
Rear portion of the sills rot away, along with the underside around the fuel tank/rear suspension. Easy fix for any competent panel beater, with sill replacement kits readily available on eBay. Last MOT was the last chance saloon for my car's rust problems. Just got all of it done, including full underside wax-oil.
Regularly commute in the below ZT-T. Stupendously capable motorway cruiser. Not the best MPG for a 2.0 diesel - automatic 'box gives at most 45mpg...
Handsome looking lump
Prices are slowly starting to increase, especially with the years passing resulting in fewer being on the road!
Rear portion of the sills rot away, along with the underside around the fuel tank/rear suspension. Easy fix for any competent panel beater, with sill replacement kits readily available on eBay. Last MOT was the last chance saloon for my car's rust problems. Just got all of it done, including full underside wax-oil.
Regularly commute in the below ZT-T. Stupendously capable motorway cruiser. Not the best MPG for a 2.0 diesel - automatic 'box gives at most 45mpg...
Handsome looking lump
JosephC said:
Bit of a fan of these...
Prices are slowly starting to increase, especially with the years passing resulting in fewer being on the road!
Rear portion of the sills rot away, along with the underside around the fuel tank/rear suspension. Easy fix for any competent panel beater, with sill replacement kits readily available on eBay. Last MOT was the last chance saloon for my car's rust problems. Just got all of it done, including full underside wax-oil.
Regularly commute in the below ZT-T. Stupendously capable motorway cruiser. Not the best MPG for a 2.0 diesel - automatic 'box gives at most 45mpg...
Handsome looking lump
I think I go against the grain but for me the 2004 facelift worked very well on the ZT (less so on 75) , Firefrost is a great colour too. As you say, that still looks quite a smart thing.Prices are slowly starting to increase, especially with the years passing resulting in fewer being on the road!
Rear portion of the sills rot away, along with the underside around the fuel tank/rear suspension. Easy fix for any competent panel beater, with sill replacement kits readily available on eBay. Last MOT was the last chance saloon for my car's rust problems. Just got all of it done, including full underside wax-oil.
Regularly commute in the below ZT-T. Stupendously capable motorway cruiser. Not the best MPG for a 2.0 diesel - automatic 'box gives at most 45mpg...
Handsome looking lump
Nickp82 said:
I think I go against the grain but for me the 2004 facelift worked very well on the ZT (less so on 75) , Firefrost is a great colour too. As you say, that still looks quite a smart thing.
Yep, frequently commented that the ZT face-lift nailed them whilst the 75 face-lift spoilt the classic retro Jaguar-esque stance.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff