RE: 2024 Hyundai Ioniq 5 N | UK Review
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loudlashadjuster said:
bigyoungdave said:
Julian Scott said:
bigyoungdave said:
Badgerr said:
Similar range to a petrol i30 N then! What people need to understand is that when you get in an EV, the range suggested is a Guess-o-meter. Once the car works out your style of driving, the GOM will become more accurate. These test cars have been thrashed by the journos so predicted range will always be lower than real time ownership. This learnt from owning my own EV.
However, in your petrol i30N you can add another 200 miles of range in 2 minutes at thousands of outlets across the country 400 miles is about 5% of the annual mileage for the average car. People who are doing that regularly are a relatively small cohort.
bigyoungdave said:
loudlashadjuster said:
bigyoungdave said:
Julian Scott said:
bigyoungdave said:
Badgerr said:
Similar range to a petrol i30 N then! What people need to understand is that when you get in an EV, the range suggested is a Guess-o-meter. Once the car works out your style of driving, the GOM will become more accurate. These test cars have been thrashed by the journos so predicted range will always be lower than real time ownership. This learnt from owning my own EV.
However, in your petrol i30N you can add another 200 miles of range in 2 minutes at thousands of outlets across the country 400 miles is about 5% of the annual mileage for the average car. People who are doing that regularly are a relatively small cohort.
Incidentally, I need to use a transit 3 or 4 times a year, that doesn't mean I feel I need to buy one as my daily driver.
pmr01 said:
Monaro5.7 said:
Superb in Spain - Can it be excellent in the UK?????????
I an no car expert but i am sure that Wales Ireland & Scotland will be getting this car why cant it be excellent in the other home nations??????
Fkn stupid headline. I an no car expert but i am sure that Wales Ireland & Scotland will be getting this car why cant it be excellent in the other home nations??????
cerb4.5lee said:
I'm pretty well known for having a rant about range(or the lack of it with EVs), but I do often wonder if it is just a very small pocket of us that actually do care about range though. My missus is a high mileage driver(30k miles a year), so range is very important to her/us, whereas if you're only pottering around local, then range doesn't even become an issue at all in comparison I'd imagine.
This is true, not everyone can consider every car. It has always been the case.I have 2 kids and a dog, so I can't consider a 2-seater car as a sole, main daily driver.
JAMSXR said:
fatjon said:
Faff?
pull up, plug in, wave credit card. wander off for a pee and a coffee.
I’m sure if you’re a retired gentleman of leisure there is no faffing, but let me give this weeks example. Business meeting in Hinckley, the journey there and back required a quick top up, as I was making good time I decided to do it on route to save me hitting peak M25 congestion on route home. The closest supercharger required me to circle back on the M1, it was a 15 min diversion and a 15 min charge (at least). My ETA went from 40 min early to 5 min due to the stop. Clearly not the end of the world, but with >250 miles of range I would have got there and back on a single charge - zero faff pull up, plug in, wave credit card. wander off for a pee and a coffee.
Blackpuddin said:
pmr01 said:
Monaro5.7 said:
Superb in Spain - Can it be excellent in the UK?????????
I an no car expert but i am sure that Wales Ireland & Scotland will be getting this car why cant it be excellent in the other home nations??????
Fkn stupid headline. I an no car expert but i am sure that Wales Ireland & Scotland will be getting this car why cant it be excellent in the other home nations??????
I'd wager the only people upset about the headline live in England anyway
Blackpuddin said:
pmr01 said:
Monaro5.7 said:
Superb in Spain - Can it be excellent in the UK?????????
I an no car expert but i am sure that Wales Ireland & Scotland will be getting this car why cant it be excellent in the other home nations??????
Fkn stupid headline. I an no car expert but i am sure that Wales Ireland & Scotland will be getting this car why cant it be excellent in the other home nations??????
There's a lot to criticise about some PH articles. I think this isn't one of them.
boozyjay said:
A guy is driving one on our industrial estate at work, he's had it about a month now, so not sure how he's got it - it may be pre-production or he works for Hyundai. It's a huge, bulbous looking thing. Definitely not for me
From a Hyundai dealership maybe? The car is freely available to buy and in stock. Julian Scott said:
bigyoungdave said:
loudlashadjuster said:
bigyoungdave said:
Julian Scott said:
bigyoungdave said:
Badgerr said:
Similar range to a petrol i30 N then! What people need to understand is that when you get in an EV, the range suggested is a Guess-o-meter. Once the car works out your style of driving, the GOM will become more accurate. These test cars have been thrashed by the journos so predicted range will always be lower than real time ownership. This learnt from owning my own EV.
However, in your petrol i30N you can add another 200 miles of range in 2 minutes at thousands of outlets across the country 400 miles is about 5% of the annual mileage for the average car. People who are doing that regularly are a relatively small cohort.
Incidentally, I need to use a transit 3 or 4 times a year, that doesn't mean I feel I need to buy one as my daily driver.
I'm with some of the others on this thread, bravo to Hyundai for making it and having a sense of humour with the fake gears, fake engine noises and rev limiter nonsense.
For me, a 2200kg hatch the size of a new Defender 90 that can barely do a couple hundred miles before needing a lengthy charging stop just isn't what I'm after.
I suspect anyone who lays out their own cash for this will have to be willing to take tens of thousands in depreciation.
For me, a 2200kg hatch the size of a new Defender 90 that can barely do a couple hundred miles before needing a lengthy charging stop just isn't what I'm after.
I suspect anyone who lays out their own cash for this will have to be willing to take tens of thousands in depreciation.
I would like one of these, I've got 12 months to go on my current lease, so I had a look at the lease terms and it's £1000 a month on a 4 year deal which is probably the reason we won't see that many, for the last 16 years I've leased/pcp a £60-70k car for around £550-£650 a month, but the current lease costs of these cars is eye watering and not a viable proposition for me.
Shame.
Wills2 said:
I would like one of these, I've got 12 months to go on my current lease, so I had a look at the lease terms and it's £1000 a month on a 4 year deal which is probably the reason we won't see that many, for the last 16 years I've leased/pcp a £60-70k car for around £550-£650 a month, but the current lease costs of these cars is eye watering and not a viable proposition for me.
Shame.
This is definitely where something like salary sacrifice helps a lot, which is great IF you can get it; you're right that main dealer leasing is not cheap. I was quoted something along the lines of £920 with a £6000 deposit or thereabouts.Shame.
Salary sacrifice is coming back as around £800 BUT that includes insurance for 2 people, VED (though its exempt for now), MOT and servicing, tyres (which I can see this thing eating!) and basically anything else besides fueling/charging it, plus 0 deposit required.
Now £800 is still a lot, granted, but taking into account my insurance quote was about £100 a month, tyres are £300+ a corner and any servicing fees, etc. This is replacing 2x cars (albeit relatively cheap ones to run) so that also means VED is now something we don't need to worry about and fuel, running the numbers means it's actually 'fairly' reasonable as a total package, though obviously depends on what options people have available and salary, current expenses etc.
Stops need not be lengthy. Drove from Surrey to Cheshire last night. Fancied a break and a McDonalds. Stopped at McDonald Shirley just off the motorway which has InstaVolt Charging. Plugged in my Genesis for a quick top up. Went to McDonalds, ordered my burger and chips. Walked back to the car and it had already gained 60 miles. Unplugged, moved the car from the charging bay and then ate the food. Zero time lost over what was a pretty quick comfort break. When looking at an EV you must consider the charging capacity and which chargers they can handle. Some major manufacturers are definitely several steps behind compared to others.
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