Real World MPG
Discussion
jonnydm said:
Renault Clio 1.2 16v 33.5mpg I do about 120 miles a week moslty suburban driving and dual carriageways. I do have quite a heavy right foot. Although this is just what the electronic meter on the car shows so it could be less. I actually managed to get the mpg on the car up to 60 the other week but the way I had to drive to acheive it was a joke.
I also drive a Clio 1.2 16v (185/15 wheels) and get 47mpg (according to onboard computer) with mostly motorway driving. Should improve when I get it serviced soon.Your right foot must be made of lead to get only 33.5!
Panda 100HP reading 41.2 over past 3K miles - mixed motorway, welsh mountains and urban..
Porsche Cayman 2.7 (5 speed box) - mixed driving over past 5K miles 31.2
2007 Mondeo 2.0TDCI 43.2 over 7K miles - mostly motorway....
The panda and the porsche coudl quite frankly do much less than they do and they woudl still be worth every penny!
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ZeeTacoe said:
collateral said:
In for a service on Friday so it'll be interesting to see if that has any effect.
at best it'll stop the chugg chugg plink plink noise for about 200miles.
Nah, they are a good laugh really!
kambites said:
otolith said:
kambites said:
In other words, it's a proper hybrid, no?
As opposed to?I think people who get sniffy about what is and isn't a true hybrid tend to think a true hybrid is a series hybrid, not parallel hybrids like the Insight and (arguably) the Prius.
otolith said:
Isn't that equally the case with the LS600h or RX400h? The design brief for what else the car has to do differs, but in each case the point of it being a hybrid is to satisfy marketing requirements minimise fuel consumption.
I don't know is it? Are they significantly better than, for example, their diesel competition?kambites said:
otolith said:
Isn't that equally the case with the LS600h or RX400h? The design brief for what else the car has to do differs, but in each case the point of it being a hybrid is to satisfy marketing requirements minimise fuel consumption.
I don't know is it? Are they significantly better than, for example, their diesel competition?I disagree with hybrid technology as a method of very low fuel consumption - i.e. the Pious. But I do get it for reducing the emissions and improving the performance of bigger engined and heavier cars such as the LS600h, RX400h and GS450h. No, they are NO WAY as good as a diesel on fuel consumption. BUT, if you take the GS450h - its a car that will 35MPG on the combined cycle yet can do 0-60 in less than 6 seconds! Now that ain't bad in anyones books.
The combination of both good performance and reasonable MPG is something to consider. But as always it depends on what you are looking for. If you want economy then it MUST be a diesel. Cant quite stomach the fuel or tax bill? Maybe a hybrid will help - but I am very cautious with these figures, BMW are getting close to these with the 530i for example so the difference isn't as big as it may seem.
Titan Simba said:
jonnydm said:
Renault Clio 1.2 16v 33.5mpg I do about 120 miles a week moslty suburban driving and dual carriageways. I do have quite a heavy right foot. Although this is just what the electronic meter on the car shows so it could be less. I actually managed to get the mpg on the car up to 60 the other week but the way I had to drive to acheive it was a joke.
I also drive a Clio 1.2 16v (185/15 wheels) and get 47mpg (according to onboard computer) with mostly motorway driving. Should improve when I get it serviced soon.Your right foot must be made of lead to get only 33.5!
gifdy said:
Interesting thread :
Anyone have figures for standard petrol A4 Avants ?
I've had a 1.8SE Avant, non-turbo, (Oct 2000, 85k) for 2 months and I'm only getting an average of 26-27mpg. This is mainly shortish journeys, but not in heavy traffic and I am driving it pretty gently. Bit disappointed really.Anyone have figures for standard petrol A4 Avants ?
That said my 1996 MX5 1.8 only averages about 24-25mpg, but it is driven slightly more enthusiastically.
kambites said:
otolith said:
Isn't that equally the case with the LS600h or RX400h? The design brief for what else the car has to do differs, but in each case the point of it being a hybrid is to satisfy marketing requirements minimise fuel consumption.
I don't know is it? Are they significantly better than, for example, their diesel competition?
But, if you wanted a large SUV with a minicab engine, the RX400h is 192g/km, compared to 275g/km for a Tuareg V6TDi, 260g/km for an Audi Q7 TDi, 294g/km for a Range Rover TDV8, 215g/km for an X5 3.0D. So it would seem that it is actually better than the diesel competition (and much better than my RX-8, and for that matter better than anything Lotus currently make).
otolith said:
kambites said:
otolith said:
Isn't that equally the case with the LS600h or RX400h? The design brief for what else the car has to do differs, but in each case the point of it being a hybrid is to satisfy marketing requirements minimise fuel consumption.
I don't know is it? Are they significantly better than, for example, their diesel competition?But, if you wanted a large SUV with a minicab engine, the RX400h is 192g/km, compared to 275g/km for a Tuareg V6TDi, 260g/km for an Audi Q7 TDi, 294g/km for a Range Rover TDV8, 215g/km for an X5 3.0D. So it would seem that it is actually better than the diesel competition (and much better than my RX-8, and for that matter better than anything Lotus currently make).
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