Worst car ever made
Discussion
PJ74 said:
Dracoro said:
Ferrari F40
You are joking?!http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... in black - F40
That said, the F40 is no-way near the top of my list. The 288GTO (which the F40 was based on) is far more preferable and tasteful, no silly spoilers and so on. The F40, great car that it is, *looks* like Max power got hold of a GTO.
For a new car the Astra 1.6 sxi my company hired for me a few months back was absolutely the worst car I've ever had the displeasure to drive. Everything about it was pants: seats, gearbox, gutless engine, even the bloody indicators.
The Nissan Note 1.4 diesel they got me as a short notice hire afterwards was bliss in comparison.
The Nissan Note 1.4 diesel they got me as a short notice hire afterwards was bliss in comparison.
ds.In no particular order, the merit-free cars I've driven (but thankfully, never owned) are:
Circa 1988 Metro. Interior appalling, engine utterly gutless, steering vague, brakes notional, instruments crap.
Circa 1982 Chevette. All of the above but with added hideous and bonus slow.
2002 Daewoo Matiz. Scarily unstable at speeds above 50. Being approximately the same weight as a bag of crisps but with a profile like a curtainsider made even light crosswinds an unsettling experience. Gearbox was not dissimilar to stirring a bucket of marbles with a knitting needle.
2007 Kia Rio. Shed. Utter, utter shed. Slow/vague/crap/etc.
2006 Citroen Xsara Picasso. I hate this car so much. In addition to all the complaints usually levelled at crap cars, such as steering/gears/engine/brakes, this pile of cack is uncomfortable and ugly, too.
Of all of these, I reckon the Matiz is the worst, by a nose ahead of the Metro.
Circa 1988 Metro. Interior appalling, engine utterly gutless, steering vague, brakes notional, instruments crap.
Circa 1982 Chevette. All of the above but with added hideous and bonus slow.
2002 Daewoo Matiz. Scarily unstable at speeds above 50. Being approximately the same weight as a bag of crisps but with a profile like a curtainsider made even light crosswinds an unsettling experience. Gearbox was not dissimilar to stirring a bucket of marbles with a knitting needle.
2007 Kia Rio. Shed. Utter, utter shed. Slow/vague/crap/etc.
2006 Citroen Xsara Picasso. I hate this car so much. In addition to all the complaints usually levelled at crap cars, such as steering/gears/engine/brakes, this pile of cack is uncomfortable and ugly, too.
Of all of these, I reckon the Matiz is the worst, by a nose ahead of the Metro.
Twincam16 said:
As has been noted, going for the Allegro et al is a bit lazy - they were average for their time. I'm not sure the Allegro was comprehensively worse than, say, the Talbot Horizon, or the Vauxhall Chevette.
So I'm going to go for a car that was reliable, well-made and dependable, but with no point to it whatsoever, and an insult to what the car it's claiming to be the spiritual successor to stood for:
Back in 1974, VW replaced the Beetle, which was a well-designed, high-quality, low-cost car that used aerodynamics to get the best out of its cheap and meagre engine. It was very easy to sell as a CKD project and as a result became a worldwide bestseller that worked its way into the world's cultural consciousness.
They replaced it with the Golf, which did all of the above, but in a more modern way.
Then they thought 'let's re-launch the Beetle!' So they took the Golf - effectively the Beetle in spirit - and made it less practical, less aerodynamic, more cramped and much, much more expensive.
Then they decided for some reason to add, as standard equipment, a dashboard-mounted flower vase with a plastic bloom in it, thus aiming it at the terminally twee and chronically easily pleased and over-excitable.
And to make matters worse, the modern re-interpretation of the Beetle's styling makes it look like a giant Fisher-Price toy, waiting for a 50-foot baby to pick it up and ram it repeatedly into a skirting-board gurgling 'Goo! Goo! Goo! Goo!' contentedly whilst the inflation-moulded plastic exterior pops back into shape to survive another day.
They're a rolling symbol of air-headed triviality and I want to see every last one of them (plus some of their drivers (the ones whose friends describe as 'really bubbly') consigned to landfill. Hateful things.
Unfortunately, being VWs, they'll plod on forever, a permanent reminder of how a firm once praised for its no-nonsense marketing forgot everything it stood for.
It's hardly the worst car ever made, though, is it?So I'm going to go for a car that was reliable, well-made and dependable, but with no point to it whatsoever, and an insult to what the car it's claiming to be the spiritual successor to stood for:
Back in 1974, VW replaced the Beetle, which was a well-designed, high-quality, low-cost car that used aerodynamics to get the best out of its cheap and meagre engine. It was very easy to sell as a CKD project and as a result became a worldwide bestseller that worked its way into the world's cultural consciousness.
They replaced it with the Golf, which did all of the above, but in a more modern way.
Then they thought 'let's re-launch the Beetle!' So they took the Golf - effectively the Beetle in spirit - and made it less practical, less aerodynamic, more cramped and much, much more expensive.
Then they decided for some reason to add, as standard equipment, a dashboard-mounted flower vase with a plastic bloom in it, thus aiming it at the terminally twee and chronically easily pleased and over-excitable.
And to make matters worse, the modern re-interpretation of the Beetle's styling makes it look like a giant Fisher-Price toy, waiting for a 50-foot baby to pick it up and ram it repeatedly into a skirting-board gurgling 'Goo! Goo! Goo! Goo!' contentedly whilst the inflation-moulded plastic exterior pops back into shape to survive another day.
They're a rolling symbol of air-headed triviality and I want to see every last one of them (plus some of their drivers (the ones whose friends describe as 'really bubbly') consigned to landfill. Hateful things.
Unfortunately, being VWs, they'll plod on forever, a permanent reminder of how a firm once praised for its no-nonsense marketing forgot everything it stood for.
They are pretty awful things to drive though. The automatic 2.0 petrol one I drove would definitely be in my top 5 worst cars I've driven.
Bizarre steering weighting that made it twitchy at high speed and disconcertingly lacking in feel any other time
No noticeable performance, and coarse to boot
Engine screaming at over 4000rpm in top doing 75-80
Plasticky dashboard that doesn't even look well put together
Uncomfortable driving position
Ridiculously over-servo'd brakes
I could go on
Bizarre steering weighting that made it twitchy at high speed and disconcertingly lacking in feel any other time
No noticeable performance, and coarse to boot
Engine screaming at over 4000rpm in top doing 75-80
Plasticky dashboard that doesn't even look well put together
Uncomfortable driving position
Ridiculously over-servo'd brakes
I could go on
Deranged Granny said:
gog440 said:
it was nippy off the line (a multipla is approx half a tonne lighter than a zafira)
You mean 78kg lighter?I mean half a tonne
Multipla was only about 1350kgs from memory, my wifes zafira is 1800kg+
edited to add
Ok I have done a bit of research since I posted above, multipla jtd 1370kg, zafira 1580kg so it is 2 fat blokes lighter than a zafira. All figures from carfolio.
In my defence I think i had looked at mgw rather than kerb weight on the zafira.
And if you drive one it feels like it weighs 2 tonnes, gutless heap of crap that it is
Edited by gog440 on Friday 12th November 09:22
What have you done to it? Replaced the interior trim with lead? The Wookie said:
They are pretty awful things to drive though. The automatic 2.0 petrol one I drove would definitely be in my top 5 worst cars I've driven.
Bizarre steering weighting that made it twitchy at high speed and disconcertingly lacking in feel any other time
No noticeable performance, and coarse to boot
Engine screaming at over 4000rpm in top doing 75-80
Plasticky dashboard that doesn't even look well put together
Uncomfortable driving position
Ridiculously over-servo'd brakes
I could go on
The thing that annoys me the most about them is the biblically enormous doors. I intentionally park several spaces away if I see a beetle in the car park just to make sure that no-one opens their gargantuan door into my car.Bizarre steering weighting that made it twitchy at high speed and disconcertingly lacking in feel any other time
No noticeable performance, and coarse to boot
Engine screaming at over 4000rpm in top doing 75-80
Plasticky dashboard that doesn't even look well put together
Uncomfortable driving position
Ridiculously over-servo'd brakes
I could go on
gog440 said:
Deranged Granny said:
gog440 said:
it was nippy off the line (a multipla is approx half a tonne lighter than a zafira)
You mean 78kg lighter?I mean half a tonne
Multipla was only about 1350kgs from memory, my wifes zafira is 1800kg+
Vauxhall Zafira (99-05) 2.0 DTi - 1448kg
Fiat Multipla (00-) 1.9 JTD - 1370kg
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