Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 13]

[Prinny]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Around £125, inc VAT delivered here (UK), plus Lux fitting. Doesn't seem too bad. Do they definitely have the snowflake marking?

They have the 3PMSF rating, so are accepted as a winter tyre from an EU legal perspective, £500 for 4 delivered is a good deal I’d say!

[loafer123]

bmthnick1981 said:

Afternoon bargists, long time no post for me, busy with work, house kids etc. Anyway e39 m5 about to go and I’m thinking an e320 cdi Estate to replace it until I have a bit more cash for something quicker in a years time.

I think I’m right in saying the w211 was from 2006 and that sorted most of the problems sbc etc? Anything else to look for? Most have monster mileage but I guess that’s nothing to be put off by if the condition and servicing look good ?

Thanks

I had a 55 plate and an 07 plate, and the former felt much better built.

[olly755]

Prinny said:

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Around £125, inc VAT delivered here (UK), plus Lux fitting. Doesn't seem too bad. Do they definitely have the snowflake marking?

They have the 3PMSF rating, so are accepted as a winter tyre from an EU legal perspective, £500 for 4 delivered is a good deal I’d say!

Plus, no need for the existing tyres, so you’ll see a bit back on Ebay for them.

That said, I’d love to see any LS on full-house winters and a set of steelies. I think you’d be the first person on the internet to do it!

[Jimmy Recard]

I've been offered a nice Saab 9000 CSE on an R-reg. 210k miles, second (current) owner since 2000. Aero interior, adjustable Konis all round and very good MOT history. Not perfect condition but not bad - no rust.

I don't really know what it's worth, any thoughts? And if I don't go for it, there might be someone here who would like it

[Pericoloso]

I don't know what engines were fitted to an R reg CSE.

2.0 ,2.0T ,2.3 ,2.3T ?

[Jimmy Recard]

Pericoloso said:

I don't know what engines were fitted to an R reg CSE.

2.0 ,2.0T ,2.3 ,2.3T ?

I should've said - he said it's a full Aero-spec engine from the factory. 2.3 turbo. I am no expert to know if that's true or not

[Triumph Man]

JamesRR said:

Aha! Missed that. Cheers

Interestingly, even the UK market handbooks list the 520d on the front cover

[Krikkit]

EarlOfHazard said:

06 onwards did away with SBC and went to normal servo. There were several thousand updates to the 2nd facelift w211, especially to the electronics. This means that they're pretty damn reliable and the car that they alwsys should have been.
I have an E350 petrol so can't comment on the diesel, but I think the 320cdi unit is pretty hardy (although the early straight 6 is better) and good for moon miles.

The ideal would be a straight six in a late body... My early one has been very good so far.

[stewjohnst]

Jimmy Recard said:

I should've said - he said it's a full Aero-spec engine from the factory. 2.3 turbo. I am no expert to know if that's true or not

Technically speaking he is correct, the engine on the 2.3T and a 9000 Aero is the same but the Aero uses a different turbocharger (Mitsubishi TD04) to achieve a higher power output.

Might be worth pressing the seller for a few more details to test him.

Values of 9000’s seem to be all over the shop, 12 months ago you would find a few usable but project cars for around a grand but they seem to creeping up with no change out of a few thousand for a good one.

[Lowtimer]

Prinny said:

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Around £125, inc VAT delivered here (UK), plus Lux fitting. Doesn't seem too bad. Do they definitely have the snowflake marking?

They have the 3PMSF rating, so are accepted as a winter tyre from an EU legal perspective, £500 for 4 delivered is a good deal I’d say!

That's the Three Peak Mountain Snow Flake, and yes, the snowflake-in-a-mountain symbol is on the sidewall.

[CharlesdeGaulle]

Lowtimer said:

Prinny said:

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Around £125, inc VAT delivered here (UK), plus Lux fitting. Doesn't seem too bad. Do they definitely have the snowflake marking?

They have the 3PMSF rating, so are accepted as a winter tyre from an EU legal perspective, £500 for 4 delivered is a good deal I’d say!

That's the Three Peak Mountain Snow Flake, and yes, the snowflake-in-a-mountain symbol is on the sidewall.

Brilliant, thanks chaps. Thread delivery, as per!

[Croutons]

stewjohnst said:

Jimmy Recard said:

I should've said - he said it's a full Aero-spec engine from the factory. 2.3 turbo. I am no expert to know if that's true or not

Technically speaking he is correct, the engine on the 2.3T and a 9000 Aero is the same but the Aero uses a different turbocharger (Mitsubishi TD04) to achieve a higher power output.

Might be worth pressing the seller for a few more details to test him.

Values of 9000’s seem to be all over the shop, 12 months ago you would find a few usable but project cars for around a grand but they seem to creeping up with no change out of a few thousand for a good one.

It's done 210K. Selling it will be challenging now. And very, very challenging in the future. The market for these is tiny anyway, and I'd judge if it was even worth bothering with if all the consumables are in good nick. Even then, I'd be offering 3 figs to start with.

If you really want a saab, this 9000 doesn't have a turbo, but you're kidding yourself if you think at 210K unless it's been to Abbot it's going to be quick anyway: 45K, repainted, 1750.

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C867020

Edited by Croutons on Sunday 26th August 19:50

[W00DY]

Croutons said:

stewjohnst said:

Jimmy Recard said:

I should've said - he said it's a full Aero-spec engine from the factory. 2.3 turbo. I am no expert to know if that's true or not

Technically speaking he is correct, the engine on the 2.3T and a 9000 Aero is the same but the Aero uses a different turbocharger (Mitsubishi TD04) to achieve a higher power output.

Might be worth pressing the seller for a few more details to test him.

Values of 9000’s seem to be all over the shop, 12 months ago you would find a few usable but project cars for around a grand but they seem to creeping up with no change out of a few thousand for a good one.

It's done 210K. Selling it will be challenging now. And very, very challenging in the future. The market for these is tiny anyway, and I'd judge if it was even worth bothering with if all the consumables are in good nick. Even then, I'd be offering 3 figs to start with.

If you really want a saab, this 9000 doesn't have a turbo, but you're kidding yourself if you think at 210K unless it's been to Abbot it's going to be quick anyway: 45K, repainted, 1750.

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C867020

Edited by Croutons on Sunday 26th August 19:50

Loads of them have done 200k+ miles, my Aero with a fair amount of rust in the floor and a failed MOT made £850. 240-odd k and made over 290bhp at 200k+ miles (dyno proven)


The mileage wouldn't worry me at ll. Is it manual? That makes a big difference to value.

Edited by W00DY on Sunday 26th August 20:21

[stewjohnst]

Croutons said:

It's done 210K. Selling it will be challenging now. And very, very challenging in the future. The market for these is tiny anyway, and I'd judge if it was even worth bothering with if all the consumables are in good nick. Even then, I'd be offering 3 figs to start with.

Edited by Croutons on Sunday 26th August 19:50

Indeed, they’re a generation before my 9-5 and getting very old now.

My 9-5 is ‘only’ 14 years old and I’m working round a full bush and suspension refresh that I’m doing myself for a few hundred but would be more than the price I paid for the car with a garage doing it.

But if it’s been owned by a decent SAABist, it may have been looked after although I dread to think what condition some consumable parts (and availability) are getting like for on 9000’s.

Mileage is less of an issue, I bought my 9-3 on 175,000 and the Aero on 150,00 without really thinking about it, the engines (sludging aside - not a 9000 issue) are not troubled by high mileage.

Edited by stewjohnst on Sunday 26th August 20:38

[dscam]

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Lowtimer said:

Prinny said:

CharlesdeGaulle said:

Around £125, inc VAT delivered here (UK), plus Lux fitting. Doesn't seem too bad. Do they definitely have the snowflake marking?

They have the 3PMSF rating, so are accepted as a winter tyre from an EU legal perspective, £500 for 4 delivered is a good deal I’d say!

That's the Three Peak Mountain Snow Flake, and yes, the snowflake-in-a-mountain symbol is on the sidewall.

Brilliant, thanks chaps. Thread delivery, as per!

Would agree that’s a great price - I paid £400 last year for a full set for the V70 as the faff of storing and swapping tyres over finally got the better of me. The CrossClimates really are excellent all round and deal with wet weather just as capably as snow/ice which to be fair is far more of a daily duty most of the year.

When I ran full winter tyres I tried all the usual premium brands but then switched to Nokian, a relatively unknown manufacturer here but highly rated by our Scandinavian and continental cousins.

[tog]

stewjohnst said:

Technically speaking he is correct, the engine on the 2.3T and a 9000 Aero is the same but the Aero uses a different turbocharger (Mitsubishi TD04) to achieve a higher power output.

The late 9000 2.3 FPT manual cars (both Anniversary and CSE) used the full-spec Aero engine, from around mid-97 I think. Check the engine number on the V5 - Aero motors are B234R, and I think the engine number will start with that (or contain that string somewhere within it). Standard FPT (and automatic Aeros) is B234L.

[Jimmy Recard]

tog said:

The late 9000 2.3 FPT manual cars (both Anniversary and CSE) used the full-spec Aero engine, from around mid-97 I think. Check the engine number on the V5 - Aero motors are B234R, and I think the engine number will start with that (or contain that string somewhere within it). Standard FPT (and automatic Aeros) is B234L.

That’s what he said - it’s a CSE Anniversary and the engine is identical to the Aero. It’s a late car

I completely forgot to ask if it’s manual or auto. He said he would call me this week so I’ll ask then.

I know the reg and I just looked it up and the CO2 figure is high (277g/km) so I’m guessing from that it’s auto

Then again, that figure could be inaccurate so nothing is conclusive yet. That figure was on Cartell.ie. DVLA lists no CO2 figure

Edited by Jimmy Recard on Sunday 26th August 21:46

[cat220]

0a said:

Which would you have?

Z3: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...



Z4: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...



Z3 for me, but the Z4 is in a fantastic colour.

That z3 is a stunning little car. Although I wouldn't be unhappy with the z4 either, both look great.

[mondayo]

It's been an expensive August for my semi-shed (it was bought in a thread mindset, just with massive budget creep) it's an E55 S211.
Diagnostic and aircon regas £80
C service, plus new rear pads and discs £450
New rear tyres (£310 off eggbay)

It's getting the rear arches and rear end paintwork tidied up in September too.

Has anyone ever replaced the boot struts on a S211? Mine aren't great but the man shook his head and muttered something about headlining out, when I asked.

Also where's the best place to get a rear parking sensor? Mine are going mental at the moment....

[0a]

Feeling lucky? 190k mile C6. Cheap though. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2006-Citroen-C6-2-7-HDi...