Porsche 10% Brexit surcharge
Discussion
PantsFire said:
In a no deal situation the pound will drop hard and tariffs will be applied, also manufacturers will put any addition import costs on the buyer, I'd bet a Porsche will cost about 30% more in cash, then there's finance, well finance just got a hell of a lot more risky so all those low/zero rates are gone too, so yeah, the industry and consumer are going to feel it.
Tut tut. 30%!!! Silly boy...Edited by PantsFire on Wednesday 13th March 11:34
HM-2 said:
TobyTR said:
That graph shows overall crime has decreased in 2017 from record highs in 2015 and 2016
If there was a direct causal relationship between crime rates and pure immigration numbers, you would expect to see a progressive increase, not an 11% decline. It's almost as if the German government spent two years accepting refugees with little planning or preparation in how to deal with the influx, before enacting coherent social policies that massively reduced the socio-economic pressures that were leading to increased criminality...Aaron's contention was the crime rate had increased in line with immigration, which is categorically wrong.
TobyTR said:
So overall crime has decreased in 2017, migrant crime still trends disproportionately high
Minorities are always disproportionately represented in crime figures. Interestingly, your graphs also seem to reinforce my statements, in that 2017 sees no increase (in fact, a slight decline) in migrants as a proportion of suspects, despite the number of migrants increasing- ergo, both an outright and proportional decline in crime committed by migrants.TobyTR said:
Unfortunately, socioeconomic deprivation is a by-product of refugees/asylum seekers etc;
It certainly goes hand in hand, but I question whether migrants are a direct cause as opposed to government policies towards migrants (IE limited integration, segregation into effective ghettoes, denial of opportunities to work etc).You are clutching at straws.
PantsFire said:
In a no deal situation the pound will drop hard and tariffs will be applied, also manufacturers will put any addition import costs on the buyer, I'd bet a Porsche will cost about 30% more in cash, then there's finance, well finance just got a hell of a lot more risky so all those low/zero rates are gone too, so yeah, the industry and consumer are going to feel it.
Yep the world will end and we’ll all starve. Edited by PantsFire on Wednesday 13th March 11:34
bad company said:
PantsFire said:
In a no deal situation the pound will drop hard and tariffs will be applied, also manufacturers will put any addition import costs on the buyer, I'd bet a Porsche will cost about 30% more in cash, then there's finance, well finance just got a hell of a lot more risky so all those low/zero rates are gone too, so yeah, the industry and consumer are going to feel it.
Yep the world will end and we’ll all starve. Edited by PantsFire on Wednesday 13th March 11:34
Rawwr said:
Rick1.8t said:
I believe I just heard confirmed that in a no-deal situation cars imported from the EU will see just over 10% import duty. I wonder how much this would dent Audi / Mercedes / BMW's market in the UK - Will people care / notice their PCP deal going from £400 to £440 per month?
I confidently predict that not a single f*ck will be given about the 10% increase. It won't change peoples' buying habits. Hell, BMW, Audi and Mercedes could probably all bump their prices by 10% now and nobody would care. People will either persist, leave off a couple of options or go for a lower model. These manufacturers spend a lot of time and money into instilling brand awareness and loyalty, and a 10% bump isn't going to shake that ground.Genius 1 , Rick1.8t thinks putting a 10% tariff on a vehicle will only increase monthly payments by 10%.
Here's two hints.
Increasing a cars price by £x will not increase its residual value by the same value £x.
The cost to finance the 10% extra is not 0.
Genuis 2 , Rawwr think Manufacturers can prices by 10% and no-one will care.
I mean does this really need explaining?
Yet still they spout complete and utter drivel unashamed.
Jazzer77 said:
Look at these two Brexiteer Einsteins.
Genius 1 , Rick1.8t thinks putting a 10% tariff on a vehicle will only increase monthly payments by 10%.
Here's two hints.
Increasing a cars price by £x will not increase its residual value by the same value £x.
The cost to finance the 10% extra is not 0.
Genuis 2 , Rawwr think Manufacturers can prices by 10% and no-one will care.
I mean does this really need explaining?
Yet still they spout complete and utter drivel unashamed.
I'm a remainer. You've either failed to read or failed to understand.Genius 1 , Rick1.8t thinks putting a 10% tariff on a vehicle will only increase monthly payments by 10%.
Here's two hints.
Increasing a cars price by £x will not increase its residual value by the same value £x.
The cost to finance the 10% extra is not 0.
Genuis 2 , Rawwr think Manufacturers can prices by 10% and no-one will care.
I mean does this really need explaining?
Yet still they spout complete and utter drivel unashamed.
Jazzer77 said:
Genius 1 , Rick1.8t thinks putting a 10% tariff on a vehicle will only increase monthly payments by 10%.
Here's two hints.
Increasing a cars price by £x will not increase its residual value by the same value £x.
The cost to finance the 10% extra is not 0.
Here's two hints.
Increasing a cars price by £x will not increase its residual value by the same value £x.
The cost to finance the 10% extra is not 0.
- 1 Actually, residuals do tend to rise with list price, the same way they fall if list price is cut.
- 2 The cost to finance the extra 10% will be at the same % rate as the rest of the finance.
- 3 A 10% tariff is only on the import price, not the RRP. RRP is unlikely to rise 10% solely due to tariffs.
PantsFire said:
In a no deal situation the pound will drop hard and tariffs will be applied, also manufacturers will put any addition import costs on the buyer, I'd bet a Porsche will cost about 30% more in cash, then there's finance, well finance just got a hell of a lot more risky so all those low/zero rates are gone too, so yeah, the industry and consumer are going to feel it.
Yep the world will end and we’ll all starve. Edited by PantsFire on Wednesday 13th March 11:34
bad company said:
PantsFire said:
In a no deal situation the pound will drop hard and tariffs will be applied, also manufacturers will put any addition import costs on the buyer, I'd bet a Porsche will cost about 30% more in cash, then there's finance, well finance just got a hell of a lot more risky so all those low/zero rates are gone too, so yeah, the industry and consumer are going to feel it.
Yep the world will end and we’ll all starve. Edited by PantsFire on Wednesday 13th March 11:34
bad company said:
Yep the world will end and we’ll all starve.
I saw some guy interviewed by the BBC regarding one of the votes and his response was"Lets get out with no deal, there's plenty of rabbits in the hills and we can grow potatoes in the back garden"
I have to question whether he was mentally capable of taking part in a referendum to be honest!
IanJ9375 said:
bad company said:
Yep the world will end and we’ll all starve.
I saw some guy interviewed by the BBC regarding one of the votes and his response was"Lets get out with no deal, there's plenty of rabbits in the hills and we can grow potatoes in the back garden"
I have to question whether he was mentally capable of taking part in a referendum to be honest!
SidewaysSi said:
bad company said:
PantsFire said:
In a no deal situation the pound will drop hard and tariffs will be applied, also manufacturers will put any addition import costs on the buyer, I'd bet a Porsche will cost about 30% more in cash, then there's finance, well finance just got a hell of a lot more risky so all those low/zero rates are gone too, so yeah, the industry and consumer are going to feel it.
Yep the world will end and we’ll all starve. Edited by PantsFire on Wednesday 13th March 11:34
Jazzer77 said:
Rawwr said:
Rick1.8t said:
I believe I just heard confirmed that in a no-deal situation cars imported from the EU will see just over 10% import duty. I wonder how much this would dent Audi / Mercedes / BMW's market in the UK - Will people care / notice their PCP deal going from £400 to £440 per month?
I confidently predict that not a single f*ck will be given about the 10% increase. It won't change peoples' buying habits. Hell, BMW, Audi and Mercedes could probably all bump their prices by 10% now and nobody would care. People will either persist, leave off a couple of options or go for a lower model. These manufacturers spend a lot of time and money into instilling brand awareness and loyalty, and a 10% bump isn't going to shake that ground.Genius 1 , Rick1.8t thinks putting a 10% tariff on a vehicle will only increase monthly payments by 10%.
Here's two hints.
Increasing a cars price by £x will not increase its residual value by the same value £x.
The cost to finance the 10% extra is not 0.
Genuis 2 , Rawwr think Manufacturers can prices by 10% and no-one will care.
I mean does this really need explaining?
Yet still they spout complete and utter drivel unashamed.
Moron.
Brooking10 said:
IanJ9375 said:
bad company said:
Yep the world will end and we’ll all starve.
I saw some guy interviewed by the BBC regarding one of the votes and his response was"Lets get out with no deal, there's plenty of rabbits in the hills and we can grow potatoes in the back garden"
I have to question whether he was mentally capable of taking part in a referendum to be honest!
Jazzer77 said:
Rawwr said:
Rick1.8t said:
I believe I just heard confirmed that in a no-deal situation cars imported from the EU will see just over 10% import duty. I wonder how much this would dent Audi / Mercedes / BMW's market in the UK - Will people care / notice their PCP deal going from £400 to £440 per month?
I confidently predict that not a single f*ck will be given about the 10% increase. It won't change peoples' buying habits. Hell, BMW, Audi and Mercedes could probably all bump their prices by 10% now and nobody would care. People will either persist, leave off a couple of options or go for a lower model. These manufacturers spend a lot of time and money into instilling brand awareness and loyalty, and a 10% bump isn't going to shake that ground.Genius 1 , Rick1.8t thinks putting a 10% tariff on a vehicle will only increase monthly payments by 10%.
Here's two hints.
Increasing a cars price by £x will not increase its residual value by the same value £x.
The cost to finance the 10% extra is not 0.
Genuis 2 , Rawwr think Manufacturers can prices by 10% and no-one will care.
I mean does this really need explaining?
Yet still they spout complete and utter drivel unashamed.
Its this kind of ridiculous reaction that gives validity to those that believe remainers are some kind of frothing scaremongers, its you that is spouting 'utter drivel unashamed' - Tit.
Edited by Rick1.8t on Thursday 14th March 09:40
Rick1.8t said:
What on earth are you on about? 100% remain here you complete moron!, I was simply stating information from a news story and my question as to if people will notice this increase was a bit of a jibe against those that may support such a situation and then be found paying more for this viewpoint - learn to read.
Its this kind of ridiculous reaction that gives validity to those that believe remainers are some kind of frothing scaremongers, its you that is spouting 'utter drivel unashamed' - Tit.
so we have two sides calling each other names and then one of the sides has a public internal squabble.Its this kind of ridiculous reaction that gives validity to those that believe remainers are some kind of frothing scaremongers, its you that is spouting 'utter drivel unashamed' - Tit.
Edited by Rick1.8t on Thursday 14th March 09:40
some say we get the politician we deserve.
CABC said:
so we have two sides calling each other names and then one of the sides has a public internal squabble.
some say we get the politician we deserve.
Hah, and they say that parliament doesnt represent 'the people' - Disagreement on all sides, in-fighting and outspoken morons such as above, seems like a mirror image to me.some say we get the politician we deserve.
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