A stage 1 remapped 335d, all the car you'll ever need??

[Vladimir]

Cos he's called Max Torque?
Good post Max.

[BrownBottle]

Max_Torque said:

I'm always surprised when there is such a hullabulloo about a medium sized diesel passenger car! I like my 335d, which is completely std and staying that way. It's a nice car to drive around in, gets me where i want to go, and that's about it.
I'd never take it on a track, let alone the N/burg ring, i'd never expect to beat a 458 off the lights, i realise it isn't going to win any mileage marathons, i'm not upset it can't tow a cross channel ferry into dry dock, i couldn't careless that a 335i is better/worse or whatever (if i wanted one of those i would buy one), and i have no interest in tuning it. I'd prefer it from a purely personal point if it were manual not auto, but can understand why a lot of people like it as an auto.


Perhaps i am in the minority here?? ;-)

Vladimir said:

Cos he's called Max Torque?
Good post Max.

You've got to be kidding me, what a bellend.

[Trtj]

DonkeyApple said:

Why choose the diesel when the petrol has a manual?

In a diesel, you don't have to near-redline it to get your maximum power. In an "every-day" combined cycle diesels will always have more occurrences of hitting or getting close to peak power.

For example, if I don't drive my m3 above 5000rpm, im only ever making circa 220hp of power. My 330d makes this figure at 3500rpm.

[DonkeyApple]

Trtj said:

DonkeyApple said:

Why choose the diesel when the petrol has a manual?

In a diesel, you don't have to near-redline it to get your maximum power. In an "every-day" combined cycle diesels will always have more occurrences of hitting or getting close to peak power.

For example, if I don't drive my m3 above 5000rpm, im only ever making circa 220hp of power. My 330d makes this figure at 3500rpm.

What you need is a turbo.

[rallycross]

DonkeyApple said:

Trtj said:

DonkeyApple said:

Why choose the diesel when the petrol has a manual?

In a diesel, you don't have to near-redline it to get your maximum power. In an "every-day" combined cycle diesels will always have more occurrences of hitting or getting close to peak power.

For example, if I don't drive my m3 above 5000rpm, im only ever making circa 220hp of power. My 330d makes this figure at 3500rpm.

What you need is a turbo.

Yes, that could include a 335i petrol twin turbo

295 lb·ft) @ 1400-5000 rpm, very impressive low down power, but will rev happily round to 7,000 rpm if you feel inclined.

Edited by rallycross on Wednesday 20th November 10:36

[Trtj]

DonkeyApple said:

What you need is a turbo.

Out of interest what is the throttle response in the 335i like compared to a 330i?

[DonkeyApple]

Trtj said:

DonkeyApple said:

What you need is a turbo.

Out of interest what is the throttle response in the 335i like compared to a 330i?

What is it between the 335i and the 335D? Is there any difference?

[rallycross]

Trtj said:

Out of interest what is the throttle response in the 335i like compared to a 330i?

At the moment Ive got 335 and an older 330 sport, the throttle response on the 335i is very good, no lag, great acceleration from low revs makes a 330 feel quite lazy.

[VolvoT5]

J4CKO said:

An aging, high mileage, complex diesel car with two turbos and a remap, bought at a bottom of the market price, what could possibly go wrong ?

Yes indeed........ I bet they can throw up some eye watering repair bills that will more than cancel out the claimed 42mpg.

[Vladimir]

Throttle response on a 335d isn't great.
Think we are about to move ours on.

[RobM77]

rallycross said:

Trtj said:

Out of interest what is the throttle response in the 335i like compared to a 330i?

At the moment Ive got 335 and an older 330 sport, the throttle response on the 335i is very good, no lag, great acceleration from low revs makes a 330 feel quite lazy.

I've driven an '07 135i coupé and the turbo lag was indeed minimal if even detectable, and yes, the engine pulls well throughout the rev range, but there was quite a distinct lag at the top of the pedal; like the Z4C video earlier but probably about twice as long. I didn't buy one on the basis of that alone.

[Vladimir]

Good throttle response can go too far; I had a mk4 Golf R32 and was insured on an F355; both had super quick response, both could easily be turned into kangarooing cars if you weren't careful.

[squeezebm]

Vladimir said:

Throttle response on a 335d isn't great.
Think we are about to move ours on.

PMSL

So mr 335d,there now seems to be a few issues with owning the legendary big d now that the mrs has agreed to let you change.....don't tell me the 135i is the new big thing!! You really do open yourself up to ridicule. And to coin a phrase used by you...... blinkered

[McWigglebum4th]

Vladimir said:

Throttle response on a 335d isn't great.
Think we are about to move ours on.

You should try a Micra it has instant throttle response

[RobM77]

McWigglebum4th said:

Vladimir said:

Throttle response on a 335d isn't great.
Think we are about to move ours on.

You should try a Micra it has instant throttle response

I don't mean to spoil the joke, but that wouldn't be surprising. Firstly it's a smaller engine with smaller rotational masses and secondly small cars generally have a smaller initial electronic throttle lag than bigger cars, sometimes due to them still having cable throttles, but for those running DBW I suspect it's emissions related.

[Patrick Bateman]

Trtj said:

In a diesel, you don't have to near-redline it to get your maximum power. In an "every-day" combined cycle diesels will always have more occurrences of hitting or getting close to peak power.

For example, if I don't drive my m3 above 5000rpm, im only ever making circa 220hp of power. My 330d makes this figure at 3500rpm.

So, proportional speaking, the M3 isn't having to use as many of its available revs?

[NotfamousMartin]

I honestly thought this was a joke thread from someone aching for PH of old...

'Some in an R8 cut me off so I launched a can of Red Bull at him and then I pissed in my kettle and took my cat to the vet.'

[ahenners]

Trtj said:

In a diesel, you don't have to near-redline it to get your maximum power. In an "every-day" combined cycle diesels will always have more occurrences of hitting or getting close to peak power.

For example, if I don't drive my m3 above 5000rpm, im only ever making circa 220hp of power. My 330d makes this figure at 3500rpm.

Isn't 3500rpm only about 1000-1500 off the redline anyway?

[RobM77]

ahenners said:

Trtj said:

In a diesel, you don't have to near-redline it to get your maximum power. In an "every-day" combined cycle diesels will always have more occurrences of hitting or getting close to peak power.

For example, if I don't drive my m3 above 5000rpm, im only ever making circa 220hp of power. My 330d makes this figure at 3500rpm.

Isn't 3500rpm only about 1000-1500 off the redline anyway?

BMW diesels are designed to drive less like traditional diesels, which is why those figures work out like that, but I still think his point is valid.

Edited by RobM77 on Thursday 21st November 19:43

[Vladimir]

Why do I feel so guilty sticking an ad on AT for ours?!
I get far too attached to mechanical things!