Why is the 6 series so cheap and why haven't I got one yet..
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ZesPak said:
I said it with a tongue in cheek, and I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder. However, I can't for the life of me see how that's in any way "awesome" looking.
To me, it's one of the ugliest "premium" cars made in the past decade. A bit less chrome here and there, doesn't make a damn thing to me, it's like a bit of make up on Susan Boyle.
Prices reflect this, there's little other reason why they lost so much of their value in that time period. The big V8 and esp V10 are very desirable engines, BMW is a very desirable brand to many and this type of car usually comes very well equipped.
The answer to the thread is: it's that cheap because to most people it's a monstrosity.
Really?To me, it's one of the ugliest "premium" cars made in the past decade. A bit less chrome here and there, doesn't make a damn thing to me, it's like a bit of make up on Susan Boyle.
Prices reflect this, there's little other reason why they lost so much of their value in that time period. The big V8 and esp V10 are very desirable engines, BMW is a very desirable brand to many and this type of car usually comes very well equipped.
The answer to the thread is: it's that cheap because to most people it's a monstrosity.
Which other big BMWs have held their value better then?
For that matter which of the 6 series direct competition have held their value better?
A few years back the Original 6 series values were on the floor even for decent examples, despite it being a good looking car. Values have only really started to climb in the last 5 years or so.
Old BMWs have always depreciated like a stone and values bottomed out low until they achieve classic status and even then it's only ever the special ones, like the M cars or the E30 325i Sport where values go anywhere decent.
Devil2575 said:
Which other big BMWs have held their value better then?
5-er, only comparable I can think of. Not that it's that much better looking, but at least not as deliberately ugly.Although they often have higher mileage (nature of the car I guess).
Devil2575 said:
For that matter which of the 6 series direct competition have held their value better?
CLSCL
Probably a lot of others as well.
Devil2575 said:
Old BMWs have always depreciated like a stone and values bottomed out low until they achieve classic status and even then it's only ever the special ones, like the M cars or the E30 325i Sport where values go anywhere decent.
This is true, but the curve of the 6-er seems exceptionally steep as far as I can tell.
Bloke I car share with sometimes has a 645ci covertable on an 04 plate I think (private plate) he's had it from new and its covered 46,000miles. It is in absolute perfect condition and he's had only a single issue (faulty sensor that triggers an airbag warning)
Its a wonderful car, an absolutely lovely V8 barge, great for wafting. As he only uses it as a normal car the running costs are unbelievably minuscule. It has the original discs on the back for example.
Anybody buying one of these to casually waft about in has great taste IMO. A hell of a lot of car for the money!
Its a wonderful car, an absolutely lovely V8 barge, great for wafting. As he only uses it as a normal car the running costs are unbelievably minuscule. It has the original discs on the back for example.
Anybody buying one of these to casually waft about in has great taste IMO. A hell of a lot of car for the money!
ZesPak said:
Devil2575 said:
Which other big BMWs have held their value better then?
5-er, only comparable I can think of. Not that it's that much better looking, but at least not as deliberately ugly.Although they often have higher mileage (nature of the car I guess).
ZesPak said:
Devil2575 said:
For that matter which of the 6 series direct competition have held their value better?
CLSCL
Probably a lot of others as well.
ZesPak said:
Devil2575 said:
Old BMWs have always depreciated like a stone and values bottomed out low until they achieve classic status and even then it's only ever the special ones, like the M cars or the E30 325i Sport where values go anywhere decent.
This is true, but the curve of the 6-er seems exceptionally steep as far as I can tell.StottyEvo said:
Bloke I car share with sometimes has a 645ci covertable on an 04 plate I think (private plate) he's had it from new and its covered 46,000miles. It is in absolute perfect condition and he's had only a single issue (faulty sensor that triggers an airbag warning)
Its a wonderful car, an absolutely lovely V8 barge, great for wafting. As he only uses it as a normal car the running costs are unbelievably minuscule. It has the original discs on the back for example.
i think the biggest engine sub the mental one in any range is a good option as they dont get the same specialist bits and still have some commonalty with other models, for example M6 brakes are pretty ridiculously expensive even if you didnt go for the carbon ones yet you can do all of the brakes, disks and pads, front and rear for £250 if you dont mind a bit of spannering, that is pretty good, suspension bits are pretty reasonable as well, it is any six series specific parts that may get expensive but there is always S/H, and realistically it shouldn't be breaking every five minutes.Its a wonderful car, an absolutely lovely V8 barge, great for wafting. As he only uses it as a normal car the running costs are unbelievably minuscule. It has the original discs on the back for example.
Pre 2006 VED is £280, insurance will be similar for me as the £250 I pay on my 350Z, MOT for £40, so not a lot really assuming it doesnt fulfil its expensive potential and I dont do mega miles, fuel would be similar or maybe a little better.
J4CKO said:
i think the biggest engine sub the mental one in any range is a good option
I wholeheartedly agree with this. I can list examples where the one below the top model is the best all rounder, this seems especially true with BMW as their Halo models are usually quite raw (and rightly so)
Granfondo said:
gazchap said:
hondansx said:
they aren't fast
0-60 in 4.6 (for the 650i) apparently - that's not fast?
One of the 997's strong points is its steering; it's well weighted and feelsome. In comparison, the 6 Series has horrid 'active' steering.
Besides, TG is not exactly the most accurate barometer. Looking online the 645ci is slower the 997 on proper tracks; 4 seconds slower at Zolder, for example.
The reality is the E46 M3 does everything the 6 Series does, but better. That's why you have to spend double the price (still a bargain in my book).
I'm looking to get something tasty again and was considering another e46 m3. But i really cant be arsed travelling halfway round the country again just to look at (yet another mis-described) dog. A 650 has come up for sale just down the road from me for £10k but has 100k on the clock. I'm wondering if this is good value as i havent really researched these?
I dont do any more than 7k miles p/a so not bothered by petrol costs and i cant imagine it would be any worse on running costs than my old e46 m3. I feel like i may have to take a look at this one..
Will i lose a wad of cash on this though at £10k?
I dont do any more than 7k miles p/a so not bothered by petrol costs and i cant imagine it would be any worse on running costs than my old e46 m3. I feel like i may have to take a look at this one..
Will i lose a wad of cash on this though at £10k?
hondansx said:
The reality is the E46 M3 does everything the 6 Series does, but better. That's why you have to spend double the price (still a bargain in my book).
Really? I'd suggest that the 6 series is a Grand Tourer and the M3 isn't. I think you were expecting something of the 6 series that it was never designed to deliver.hondansx said:
The reality is the E46 M3 does everything the 6 Series does, but better. That's why you have to spend double the price (still a bargain in my book).
Except sound good. The M6 does that better. Much, much better.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCR8hJHUhII
jamieduff1981 said:
Except sound good. The M6 does that better. Much, much better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCR8hJHUhII
Blimey that does sound good! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCR8hJHUhII
StottyEvo said:
Granfondo said:
gazchap said:
hondansx said:
they aren't fast
0-60 in 4.6 (for the 650i) apparently - that's not fast?StottyEvo said:
Granfondo said:
gazchap said:
hondansx said:
they aren't fast
0-60 in 4.6 (for the 650i) apparently - that's not fast?Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff