RE: New TVR Griffith - official

RE: New TVR Griffith - official

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T-bagger

447 posts

206 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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V41LEY said:
The worst thing about the launch has been the negativity on here. Entirely predictable sadly.
And this is why I read very few new car reviews on PH these day, I can't help reading the comments and it always annoys me when I see the same old complaints; too heavy, too big, too turbocharged, too much tech, too fast, too ugly etc.
Maybe it's time that PH drew a line in the sands of time, maybe 1998? And completely forgets that motor vehicles were produced after this....
I think this might be a classic car website nowadays.

Resurrect a great British brand with an exciting 500bhp sports car = 5+ pages of hatred.
Somebody finds a tired, unreliable, money pit of a £1,000 Alfa on Autotrader = everyone loses their minds with envy.

????????

PH - hating new stuff matters.

Matthew Poxon

5,329 posts

175 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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I do agree to some extent on the interior, TVR has always had stunning interiors and I am not 100% sold on this one based on the pictures. I think it will probably be a car you need to see in person to appreciate it. I remember when I saw photos of the then new Jaguar F Type and thinking it looked stunning. When I saw it in person I was very disappointed with how fat and bloated it looked for a sports car. This new TVR is very light and compact, how a sportscar should be, 1.2 tonnes vs the 1.8 tonnes of the F Type.

Looking at the spec I think 90k is a bargain for a GMD designed baby SLR with full ground effect and a Cosworth V8. You can always change the styling and interior, the chassis not to much and that is what they have nailed.

This image illustrates for me what is wrong with modern sportscars, the new TVR is similar dimensions to TVRs of old:

RumbleOfThunder

3,581 posts

205 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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Wow, bold (shock). Would need to see that in the flesh. Back end has a touch of Lexus LFA to it.

housen

2,366 posts

194 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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T-bagger said:
V41LEY said:
The worst thing about the launch has been the negativity on here. Entirely predictable sadly.
And this is why I read very few new car reviews on PH these day, I can't help reading the comments and it always annoys me when I see the same old complaints; too heavy, too big, too turbocharged, too much tech, too fast, too ugly etc.
Maybe it's time that PH drew a line in the sands of time, maybe 1998? And completely forgets that motor vehicles were produced after this....
I think this might be a classic car website nowadays.

Resurrect a great British brand with an exciting 500bhp sports car = 5+ pages of hatred.
Somebody finds a tired, unreliable, money pit of a £1,000 Alfa on Autotrader = everyone loses their minds with envy.

????????

PH - hating new stuff matters.
agreed

too much negativity

I think its great !!!!!

AmosMoses

4,042 posts

167 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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TheLuke said:
Do it with the 3/4 pic!
Ye sir!


The Vambo

6,745 posts

143 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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djtails3 said:
From these pictures, I personally think it looks awful and will bring the beginning of the end for TVR.
Its not even the end of the beginning for TVR yet. laugh

Porsche911R

21,146 posts

267 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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housen said:
agreed

too much negativity

I think its great !!!!!
have you ordered one, there are slots left for the launch car ? ;-)

djtails3

2 posts

190 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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True

TheLuke

2,218 posts

143 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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AmosMoses said:
Ye sir!

Ooh la la!

That is much better!

ChilliWhizz

11,996 posts

163 months

dxg

8,354 posts

262 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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I'd be nice if we could get a picture with a person standing alongside to get an idea of its size.

I think the styling will work if it's small. Otherwise it's going to look rather clumsy - look at the radiuses on the rear lights, for example. If the units are small, they'll be okay. If not...

DMC2

1,842 posts

213 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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Wow. That looks cheap and nasty, like a 80s kit car. No chance for £90k. Fail.

bertie

8,550 posts

286 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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I think it looks fantastic.

People are making judgements on some very small details.

Let's remember this is just the very first show car, not the finished article.

An awful lot of details could change before it comes out.

stuckmojo

3,022 posts

190 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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AmosMoses said:
Ye sir!

Massive difference.

I think the proportions are perfect. It will be great to see in the flesh. (in a different colour hopefully applied consistently to the whole car)...



suffolk009

5,524 posts

167 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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thecremeegg said:
Not much of a looker from these pics but it is in red, a colour that only works on Ferraris so in a black it might be more pleasing. Looking forward to seeing one in the flesh though!
I thought TVRs were all meant to be purple!

I'm not a fan of the styling. The front is the bd love-child of Merc SLS and Renault Clio, the sides are completely forgetable as is the glass house, the rear is just generic Japanese sports coupe.

All far too anodyne.

In that clip it sounds nice though.

RumbleOfThunder

3,581 posts

205 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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Heater vents, steering column inc keyless ignition and stalks right out of my Fiesta lol. Good choice, they work just fine.

bertie

8,550 posts

286 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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anonymous said:
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One for discussion in the Photography section maybe, meanwhile, back to the car...

petemurphy

10,144 posts

185 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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whoever is their pr should be shot - the photos pistonheads have - the first most of their potential customers see - are dreadful - looks much better in the goodwood pics

redroadster

1,780 posts

234 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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For that money I'd have a v8 f type better looking better made and can't sound any better but guess choice is there for people to choose

DMC2

1,842 posts

213 months

Friday 8th September 2017
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V41LEY]ab172uk said:
The styling is so disappointing IMHO

The rear looks to Track racer, and the front looks far too bland with a silly smile with the front grill. And those wheels .................... Jesus !

TVR always stood for 911 Turbo performance for less money than a standard 911 Carrera.

Starting price of £90,000 ! Wow.

For £90k, I'd want something that looked better than a looking like a Kit car.

Think the Board of Porsche will be having a very merry Executive lunch today. So will McLaren etc.


With respect, I don't think Les' target market is the Porsche or McLaren mob. That's for the brave, safe - dare I say dull - souls.
So a Cayman GT4 is dull?? And bought by boring people. Lol