RE: SVO fuses 550hp V8 with Range Rover Velar
Discussion
NomduJour said:
craigjm said:
Considering the deal to buy the engine from
ford is ending next year I am surprised they have put it into yet another car that is, I assume, intended to sell beyond the end of next year.
It isn’t, one year only. ford is ending next year I am surprised they have put it into yet another car that is, I assume, intended to sell beyond the end of next year.
Cold said:
Some seem to be insinuating that a car manufacturing company shouldn't try to sell a new car if their sales are down and they certainly shouldn't attempt to sell a quick version of an existing product (a cheap way of generating interest) while the next generation of product is under its final stage of development.
What next generation? It's based on a shorted D5 platform? And that will be four years old by the time the Defender 2 goes to market. This might cause some hate, but the biggest detractor in the Land Rover brand is the fact they are so close to jaguar, I’m sorry but to me they leave me uninspired and cold, and they don’t sell it’s all well and good releasing near on £90k cars when the brand is performing but releasing a car that is supposed to be a sort of entry into the brand is crazy
redroadster said:
They wonder why they have falling sales ? Too much money not enough footballers.
This doesn't really make sense. Are you using the age-old cliche that only footballers buy this car, I can't quite work it out....it almost sounds like you are, but then you say there aren't enough footballers. You say "too much money"....do you mean the vehicle price, or the JLR brand? I can't assume the latter after reading the news the last few weeks. So I think you're saying "it costs too much, but there aren't enough footballers"?Either way, bit of an old cliche.
jack_86 said:
This might cause some hate, but the biggest detractor in the Land Rover brand is the fact they are so close to jaguar, I’m sorry but to me they leave me uninspired and cold, and they don’t sell it’s all well and good releasing near on £90k cars when the brand is performing but releasing a car that is supposed to be a sort of entry into the brand is crazy
You sound rather confused.DP33 said:
Prefer the Jag on balance but would like someone from JLR to explain, (genuine question) the positioning of the two models because it appears to me that the overlap between them is just too great - surely aimed at a very similar target market?
It's all down to preference. Porsche and Audi (and to a lesser extent Skoda/SEAT) have similar SUVs with similar performance on the same platform. If you like the look of one over the other, or prefer one brand to the other, the choice is there.I'd plump for the Velar every time over the Jag, as I think the Jag looks too similar to other SUVs. The Velar to me, is one of the best looking cars available with a fairly unique/sleek silhouette.
And its got cool door handles
DP33 said:
(genuine question) the positioning of the two models because it appears to me that the overlap between them is just too great - surely aimed at a very similar target market?
To me the SVautobigraphy range and the SVR range are clearly different propositions...SVA being the 'ultimate power, ultimate luxury' range, and SVR being the 'ultimate power, ultimate performance' range. Think S550 vs S63. They could brand it better to be more distinct though.
craigjm said:
So have they extended the deal to buy the engine? It was supposed to finish in 2020.
not so far...https://www.carthrottle.com/post/jaguars-v6-and-v8...
The velar looks great, the v8 is epic. Shame they will sell very few of the v8s, and as usual, far more boring diesels.... in a couple of years, they will be electric only no doubt... in line with Jaguar..
I saw a Velar parked next to a Range Rover Sport the other day and one thing struck me instantly.....suddenly the Sport looks very, very old.
Whether this is the Velar effect or whether the Sport has just aged badly, but to me it's looking really old hat now, there was no appreciable size differance, not sure why anyone would go Sport instead of Velar.
Whether this is the Velar effect or whether the Sport has just aged badly, but to me it's looking really old hat now, there was no appreciable size differance, not sure why anyone would go Sport instead of Velar.
E65Ross said:
redroadster said:
They wonder why they have falling sales ? Too much money not enough footballers.
This doesn't really make sense. Are you using the age-old cliche that only footballers buy this car, I can't quite work it out....it almost sounds like you are, but then you say there aren't enough footballers. You say "too much money"....do you mean the vehicle price, or the JLR brand? I can't assume the latter after reading the news the last few weeks. So I think you're saying "it costs too much, but there aren't enough footballers"?Either way, bit of an old cliche.
The repeated mention of dropping sales and references to the people who buy these cars in the U.K. and that they won’t sell any expensive V8s here is a case in point.
It’s a fundamental lack of understanding about what the underlying issues are facing the luxury auto market as a whole.
I’m not sure any of the hard of thinking JLR bashets have told us yet what the Chinese version of orange faced, pcp, school run Mum, married to a footballer is ...
stumpage said:
bluemason said:
The macan is a much superior car when it come to performance and looks.
Looks like you've driven them both. How was the Macan more superior? What made the performance and feel of the SVO Velar so much worse than the Macan?Edited by stumpage on Tuesday 5th February 14:23
king awful.bertie said:
I saw a Velar parked next to a Range Rover Sport the other day and one thing struck me instantly.....suddenly the Sport looks very, very old.
Whether this is the Velar effect or whether the Sport has just aged badly, but to me it's looking really old hat now, there was no appreciable size differance, not sure why anyone would go Sport instead of Velar.
Have you driven both?Whether this is the Velar effect or whether the Sport has just aged badly, but to me it's looking really old hat now, there was no appreciable size differance, not sure why anyone would go Sport instead of Velar.
Not something I would buy but it is a looker and it will be a fantastic thing to drive.
I dont get the hatred and footballer/school run stuff, what is so worthy about what you do for employment and what exciting stuff do you do with your car day to day ?
The owners will decide they want a car and go to the dealership, look at the brochures, have a spin in on and order it, they probably wont spend a lot of their time arguing about its validity and defending their choice on here, they will just use it for whatever job they deem suitable and then trade it in at some point having rather enjoyed it in all likelihood, unaware that Barry92Doncaster and EP3GAV arent keen. The owners of a Velar SV whatsit probably dont fancy an 18 year old MX5, project TVR, tired RS6 or immaculate 2007 M3 either.
Its no more or less pointless of any other choice of car, they all do broadly the same job carting people and stuff, we could all probably manage most stuff we do with a 1 litre supermini, do we want to ?
I dont get the hatred and footballer/school run stuff, what is so worthy about what you do for employment and what exciting stuff do you do with your car day to day ?
The owners will decide they want a car and go to the dealership, look at the brochures, have a spin in on and order it, they probably wont spend a lot of their time arguing about its validity and defending their choice on here, they will just use it for whatever job they deem suitable and then trade it in at some point having rather enjoyed it in all likelihood, unaware that Barry92Doncaster and EP3GAV arent keen. The owners of a Velar SV whatsit probably dont fancy an 18 year old MX5, project TVR, tired RS6 or immaculate 2007 M3 either.
Its no more or less pointless of any other choice of car, they all do broadly the same job carting people and stuff, we could all probably manage most stuff we do with a 1 litre supermini, do we want to ?
bertie said:
I saw a Velar parked next to a Range Rover Sport the other day and one thing struck me instantly.....suddenly the Sport looks very, very old.
Whether this is the Velar effect or whether the Sport has just aged badly, but to me it's looking really old hat now, there was no appreciable size differance, not sure why anyone would go Sport instead of Velar.
Whereas I went into a dealer, gave the Velar 3 seconds, loved the RRS and wished the Discovery had a better looking rear to make me love that too. Different buyers want different things. The Velar range is not on my radar, but I can see why people like them.Whether this is the Velar effect or whether the Sport has just aged badly, but to me it's looking really old hat now, there was no appreciable size differance, not sure why anyone would go Sport instead of Velar.
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