RE: Range Rover Evoque P250: Driven

[JxJ Jr.]

And Auto Express' review has this little passage:

"To recap, the new Evoque sits on a very heavily modified version of its old D8 platform – different enough, it seems, to earn a new name: Premium Transverse Architecture."

[dmsims]

JxJ Jr. said:

Premium Transverse Architecture.

Imagine the real cost of making that BS up!

[Cold]

Looks like we all finally agree that it's a new platform.

[av185]

dmsims said:

JxJ Jr. said:

Premium Transverse Architecture.

Ah yes PTA.

Parents Teachers Association confirms it's definitely a vehicle for the school run.

[JxJ Jr.]

Cold said:

Looks like we all finally agree that it's a new platform...in name only

Yes. Yes we do.

[nickfrog]

st4 said:

Ares said:

Surprising then that Toyota are using BMW engines

It could be their downfall. It’s a bad move in the long term.

I assume you will call them and offer your automotive consultancy services and they will pay you handsomely. Hang on, haven't your services been snapped up by JLR following that infamous thread where you devised their long term industrial strategy ?

[Burwood]

JxJ Jr. said:

Cold said:

Looks like we all finally agree that it's a new platform...in name only

Yes. Yes we do.

Lol

[M4CK 1]

Cold said:

Looks like we all finally agree that it's a new platform.

I have been also preaching this but people believe what they want to believe!!
Can't help themselves!!

[BVB]

Looks identical to the tacky sack of crap that was the previous Evoque?

[anonymous-user]

Burwood said:

st4 said:

Ares said:

Yes, because taking one of history's best engine manufacturers is automatically a bad move.

Are you on smack?

BMW's make some of the worst engines to go in a car.

Not their 6 cyl and V8/V10. Won more awards than any other manufacturer for this class of engine.

Even the cooking BMW 3 & 4 cylinder engines are actually best in class in terms of performance, emissions and economy!

In order to be "best in class" they are necessarily more highly strung, and more complex than some other competitor engines and as a result they can suffer from more reliability issues. I say "can" because as a percentage, i'm not sure BMW engines are any worse for reliability than anyone else's, and they tend to be used harder, and owned by people who are much more likely to complain ime.

[st4]

Max_Torque said:

, i'm not sure BMW engines are any worse for reliability than anyone else's,

They are.

[Cold]

JxJ Jr. said:

Cold said:

Looks like we all finally agree that it's a new platform.

You were right all along.

Easy innit.

[Ares]

Burwood said:

st4 said:

Ares said:

Yes, because taking one of history's best engine manufacturers is automatically a bad move.

Are you on smack?

BMW's make some of the worst engines to go in a car.

Not their 6 cyl and V8/V10. Won more awards than any other manufacturer for this class of engine.

And the original CSL/CSi straight 6 engine
And the M1's (and 635csi/E28 M5) straight 6 engine
And the E30 M3s 4-pot
And the 2002 Turbo 4-pot
And the E46 M4s 3.2 Straight 6
And the E90 M3s V8
And the Z8's V8
And the McLaren F1 V12
And the original 520/525/320/325 straight 6 engine
And the original 330d engine
And the 35i engine (and now 40i)
And the 1500cc 4-cyl turbo
And the i8's 1.5 petrol hybrid

[st4]

Ares said:

And the original CSL/CSi straight 6 engine
And the M1's (and 635csi/E28 M5) straight 6 engine
And the E30 M3s 4-pot
And the 2002 Turbo 4-pot
And the E46 M4s 3.2 Straight 6
And the E90 M3s V8
And the Z8's V8
And the McLaren F1 V12
And the original 520/525/320/325 straight 6 engine
And the original 330d engine
And the 35i engine (and now 40i)
And the 1500cc 4-cyl turbo
And the i8's 1.5 petrol hybrid

A lot of these have serious mechanical issues...

[Burwood]

st4 said:

Ares said:

And the original CSL/CSi straight 6 engine
And the M1's (and 635csi/E28 M5) straight 6 engine
And the E30 M3s 4-pot
And the 2002 Turbo 4-pot
And the E46 M4s 3.2 Straight 6
And the E90 M3s V8
And the Z8's V8
And the McLaren F1 V12
And the original 520/525/320/325 straight 6 engine
And the original 330d engine
And the 35i engine (and now 40i)
And the 1500cc 4-cyl turbo
And the i8's 1.5 petrol hybrid

A lot of these have serious mechanical issues...

I never had any engine issues with M3 and 2 x V8s. The electrics were a different matter.

[Ares]

st4 said:

Ares said:

And the original CSL/CSi straight 6 engine
And the M1's (and 635csi/E28 M5) straight 6 engine
And the E30 M3s 4-pot
And the 2002 Turbo 4-pot
And the E46 M4s 3.2 Straight 6
And the E90 M3s V8
And the Z8's V8
And the McLaren F1 V12
And the original 520/525/320/325 straight 6 engine
And the original 330d engine
And the 35i engine (and now 40i)
And the 1500cc 4-cyl turbo
And the i8's 1.5 petrol hybrid

A lot of these have serious mechanical issues...

Which? and What?

[Rawwr]

st4 said:

A lot of these have serious mechanical issues...

And you have serious mental issues.

[st4]

Rawwr said:

And you have serious mental issues.

That’s not very nice.

Why would you say such a thing - sure not for my stating what everyone knows and factually things. BMW made the TV show watchdog for faulty engines. It’s a prize in stness.

[Rawwr]

st4 said:

That’s not very nice.

Why would you say such a thing

Because you're a poor impression of a good troll and you should've been banned from this forum months ago?

[st4]

Rawwr said:

Because you're a poor impression of a good troll and you should've been banned from this forum months ago?

I really don't see the point of this boorish behaviour. Is this how you speak to those who have different views to your own?