RE: VW ID.R breaks outright Goodwood record

[Sandpit Steve]

MaxSo said:

Saying it somehow didn't break the record because it did it yesterday is just petty.

It did the run in 39.9s.

That is the fastest ever.

The end.

It’s the same in any formula, the track record might be set in qualifying, but the official lap record can only be set during the race.

[FourWheelDrift]

Sandpit Steve said:

It’s the same in any formula, the track record might be set in qualifying, but the official lap record can only be set during the race.

That would only be the race record not overall (circuit) fastest lap record which can be set in any session or race.

It has set the record, Goodwood the only people who matter say so.

[ukaskew]

Sandpit Steve said:

It’s the same in any formula, the track record might be set in qualifying, but the official lap record can only be set during the race.

FoS is a bit different though, surely you can see that?

[modeller]

85Carrera said:

modeller said:

85Carrera said:

What a ridiculous comment. You’ve obviously chosen to ignore:

1. The environmental consequences of mining the crap that goes in the batteries;
2. How the electricity they use has been produced; and
3. The environmental consequences of disposing of the crap in the batteries when they need replacing after less than 15 years.

And that’s ignoring the range issues which make them only suitable for a second/city car for most people ...

Daily mail reader?

No, as it happens, but I guess you’re a sanctimonious Guardian reader who laps up the crap they publish without questioning it given your pathetic and pointless comment.
For what it’s worth, most of my cars are old, “polluting”, worth a fraction of, for example, a Tesla but are, I would argue, more environmentally sound.
I was at the FoS yesterday and the speed of this car was very impressive, albeit it sounded like a Hoover, but one good run (fixed, it appears, if other posters are to be believed about removing batteries and the like) does not resolve the issues with electric cars. Or ignore the fact that wholesale switching to electric cars as ill-informed idiots like you seem to want, is far worse for the environment than continuing to use (rather than scrap) older ICE cars. And that’s before you consider the batteries, which are hardly environmentally friendly either to make or scrap (which would be well before the end of life of an ICE car). Instead of your rather immature “Daily Mail” jibe, perhaps you’d care to address those very real issues - if you have the knowledge to do so, which I doubt.

I was at FoS too .. and given the large display of new EVs the OEMs clearly believe the future is electric.
If you're so anti-EV, what is your suggestion for the future?

[DoubleD]

Just watching some coverage and they have said that the time doesnt count as he did it during practice?

[Terminator X]

Simonium said:

Jesus, it doesn’t take long for the very, very peculiar people who choose to be personally affronted by EVs to turn up and sneer, deride, mock and make comic exaggerations or daft comparisons. I don’t understand what they get out of this puerile sniping; for me this achievement demonstrates impressive engineering and even more impressive driver control. That’s all.

Appreciate that this may be hard on you ... not everyone shares your opinion

TX.

[Turn7]

I did have a little smirk when the Roboracer paniced and just stopped up by the flint wall......

The Tech is still very early doors and a long way off being freely available.

[DC51981]

Nick Heidfeld still has the record as it’s based on Sunday times not Saturday qualifying time. ICE is still champion!!

[J4CKO]

It has all the feeling of an established Chess Grand Master very nearly getting spanked by a nine year old who has only been playing a year this, it is early days for any kind of electric competition car and they have matched, pretty much, the fastest IC engined cars.

Would rather watch something marginally slower but massively louder though, thats half the fun, but for sheer mental speed, if not spectable thats where its going*

• for a lap, maybe two until the batteries run out.

[Turfy]

Call me when an EV beats an ICE vehicle at Le Mans and I’ll sit up and take note...

Zzzzzzzzzz........

[RobDickinson]

Tbh the most fun to watch was the beast of Turin from 1911

Evs are very early in development really

[Nerdherder]

Please control your emotions gents.
It’s an impressively fast car that showcases some of the potential of EV.
Why get all dramatic about it?

[DoubleD]

RobDickinson said:

Evs are very early in development really

They have been around for as long as a petrol or diesel engine.

[Mafffew]

RobDickinson said:

Tbh the most fun to watch was the beast of Turin from 1911

In a similar vein, I thought Julian Majzub in his Bugatti was great as well. But my favourite had to be Oliver Solberg

[ajprice]

Mafffew said:

In a similar vein, I thought Julian Majzub in his Bugatti was great as well. But my favourite had to be Oliver Solberg

The older cars being driven on the edge and twitching around was great to see, but yeah Oliver Solberg was on it. The finishing area and interview at the end too "I fked up the first corner"

[Cold]

J4CKO said:

It has all the feeling of an established Chess Grand Master very nearly getting spanked by a nine year old who has only been playing a year this, it is early days for any kind of electric competition car and they have matched, pretty much, the fastest IC engined cars.

The fastest IC type of car from 25 years ago but not over the race distance of that car.
In fact at just over a mile, it's only about half the length of one Monaco lap.

[Fastdruid]

DC51981 said:

Nick Heidfeld still has the record as it’s based on Sunday times not Saturday qualifying time. ICE is still champion!!

They don't time modern F1 cars anymore for safety reasons after that run. Martin Whitmarsh (Mclaren Head of Operations) asked Heidfeld to "go for it" then realised afterwards it was massively dangerous and after speaking to Lord March the agreement was made not to time Modern F1 cars.

I'm sure a dedicated hillclimb car could beat the VW ID R, just looking at Heidfelds run and the F1 car is all over the shop while the ID R was stable as anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP6oJGiX-Ds

[griffdude]

Such a shame that Goodwood don’t recognise any of the current British Hillclimb Championship contenders. That would then give gravitas to the hill.
It would be interesting to see how quickly they could do a run.

[Oilchange]

Sounds to me like there is too much politics to allow a fair chance of challenging the record, if they don’t allow the fastest cars to be timed up the hill, what’s the point of having an overall record?
The VW ev thing went up fast but it sounds like they paid for the privilege and others are excluded for various safety and/or entry fee reasons.
Makes the record irrelevant.

[RacerMike]

Fastdruid said:

DC51981 said:

Nick Heidfeld still has the record as it’s based on Sunday times not Saturday qualifying time. ICE is still champion!!

They don't time modern F1 cars anymore for safety reasons after that run. Martin Whitmarsh (Mclaren Head of Operations) asked Heidfeld to "go for it" then realised afterwards it was massively dangerous and after speaking to Lord March the agreement was made not to time Modern F1 cars.

I'm sure a dedicated hillclimb car could beat the VW ID R, just looking at Heidfelds run and the F1 car is all over the shop while the ID R was stable as anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP6oJGiX-Ds

Graeme Wright Jnr had a go in his Gould GR51 and managed 42.9. A fast time, but given that they're pretty much the fastest hillclimb car you can get, Heidfeld's time and the ID.Rs time are both very, very quick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD5tBgr2LLc