RE: Bugatti Chiron goes 304 mph!
Discussion
When Bugatti releases the details of its limited edition production run in this spec... I hope to see a lot of back tracking on here.
By logic you would have to make one car first, in order to prove the theory of the maths and design tweaks. Then soon after, allow the public to order said car. I am sure this is how all manufacturers would have gone about things. Otherwise they would be guessing.
End of the day it's not an all new car. It's already in production. This edition has another 100bhp and some tweaks. Easily offered to the public now.
Not quite sure where there is so much negativity on here these days. Maybe step away for a while and take a break. It's only toy cars and fun. It shouldn't wind you up so much. Enjoy life. Celebrate others success.
By logic you would have to make one car first, in order to prove the theory of the maths and design tweaks. Then soon after, allow the public to order said car. I am sure this is how all manufacturers would have gone about things. Otherwise they would be guessing.
End of the day it's not an all new car. It's already in production. This edition has another 100bhp and some tweaks. Easily offered to the public now.
Not quite sure where there is so much negativity on here these days. Maybe step away for a while and take a break. It's only toy cars and fun. It shouldn't wind you up so much. Enjoy life. Celebrate others success.
Its near enough to not declare smoke and mirrors, it passed 300 by a margin and its only really a bit of fun and seeing the game moving on.
People get misty eyed about stuff they never actually saw Bugatti do personally, but they are still here one way or another going big.
I think its awesome to hear that 300 mph has been topped, I remember in 1987 when the F40 topped 200, when we were still dumbfounded by speedos that had 140 mph as the top speed, most cars struggled to top "a ton" and its weird that now many of us own cars limited to 155 mph, and loads arent even that remarkable.
Top Speeds are utterly irrelevant to most of us, buts its still interesting to the 9 year old in me arguing with the lad next door that his dads car isnt faster than my dads, it just has a higher number on the speedo, doesnt mean it can do that, just means they use one speedo for your dads piss poor 1.6 Calypso in Beige as the 2.8 injection or something.
People get misty eyed about stuff they never actually saw Bugatti do personally, but they are still here one way or another going big.
I think its awesome to hear that 300 mph has been topped, I remember in 1987 when the F40 topped 200, when we were still dumbfounded by speedos that had 140 mph as the top speed, most cars struggled to top "a ton" and its weird that now many of us own cars limited to 155 mph, and loads arent even that remarkable.
Top Speeds are utterly irrelevant to most of us, buts its still interesting to the 9 year old in me arguing with the lad next door that his dads car isnt faster than my dads, it just has a higher number on the speedo, doesnt mean it can do that, just means they use one speedo for your dads piss poor 1.6 Calypso in Beige as the 2.8 injection or something.
How many of the previous records where set with customer cars then? Seems pretty valid to use a pre-production prototype to me. See Nurburgring "records" for context 
Also, knowing Bugatti, the production version of this is probably all sold out, so maybe they just forgot they hadnt revealed it to the dirty public yet
Also, knowing Bugatti, the production version of this is probably all sold out, so maybe they just forgot they hadnt revealed it to the dirty public yet
Kubevoid said:
When Bugatti releases the details of its limited edition production run in this spec... I hope to see a lot of back tracking on here.
You won't see s
t unless it's EXACTLY the same spec as the 300mph car.Kubevoid said:
Not quite sure where there is so much negativity on here these days.
You've been here less than a month...
J4CKO said:
Its near enough to not declare smoke and mirrors, it passed 300 by a margin and its only really a bit of fun and seeing the game moving on.
People get misty eyed about stuff they never actually saw Bugatti do personally, but they are still here one way or another going big.
I think its awesome to hear that 300 mph has been topped, I remember in 1987 when the F40 topped 200, when we were still dumbfounded by speedos that had 140 mph as the top speed, most cars struggled to top "a ton" and its weird that now many of us own cars limited to 155 mph, and loads arent even that remarkable.
Top Speeds are utterly irrelevant to most of us, buts its still interesting to the 9 year old in me arguing with the lad next door that his dads car isnt faster than my dads, it just has a higher number on the speedo, doesnt mean it can do that, just means they use one speedo for your dads piss poor 1.6 Calypso in Beige as the 2.8 injection or something.
. People get misty eyed about stuff they never actually saw Bugatti do personally, but they are still here one way or another going big.
I think its awesome to hear that 300 mph has been topped, I remember in 1987 when the F40 topped 200, when we were still dumbfounded by speedos that had 140 mph as the top speed, most cars struggled to top "a ton" and its weird that now many of us own cars limited to 155 mph, and loads arent even that remarkable.
Top Speeds are utterly irrelevant to most of us, buts its still interesting to the 9 year old in me arguing with the lad next door that his dads car isnt faster than my dads, it just has a higher number on the speedo, doesnt mean it can do that, just means they use one speedo for your dads piss poor 1.6 Calypso in Beige as the 2.8 injection or something.
This.
I’m super-impressed, because I still remember all of these wow things, particularly the 140mph speedo - which meant the car could do 140, right?
Yes, it’s modded slightly, but 304?!? Production is imminent so that’s that sorted.
Wonder what the McLaren Speedtail will do. That’s properly aero. 270 with its power?
Cups Renault said:
Who gives a flying feck
Not an achievement when it costs as much as it does
Pointless and utterly irrelevant to all but 0.001% of the public. Got yourself a despotic oil state, or a Ponzi finance scheme, fill your boots.
Not an achievement because of how much it costs? You can throw all the money in the world at something but if the brains aren't there to come up with such a masterpiece it still wouldn't happen. Of course it is an achievement. Was the moonlanding not an achievement because it cost so much to do? Of course it is a great accomplishment.Not an achievement when it costs as much as it does
Pointless and utterly irrelevant to all but 0.001% of the public. Got yourself a despotic oil state, or a Ponzi finance scheme, fill your boots.
Pointless, perhaps. Irrelevant to most people, if not everyone? Almost certainly. But that doesn't make it less amazing. Climbing Mount Everest is a remarkable thing, it's pointless and irrelevant, but is it still an accomplishment? Bloody right it is.
Now f
k off to mumsnet.Presumably the production car will come with the roll cage, bucket seats and harnesses, but wrapped in leather or alcantara. Having an accident at 300mph normally relies on some 4340 chromoly to ensure you still have your bonce on your shoulders. Other than VW's test track, where else can the car be vmax'd? I remember reading that the regular Chiron took about 33 seconds to reach just under 250mph from zero, so it must need a bit of real estate to reach vmax.
Cups Renault said:
Who gives a flying feck
Not an achievement when it costs as much as it does
Pointless and utterly irrelevant to all but 0.001% of the public. Got yourself a despotic oil state, or a Ponzi finance scheme, fill your boots.
do you expect 300mph to be achieved in a £30k car then? absurd commentNot an achievement when it costs as much as it does
Pointless and utterly irrelevant to all but 0.001% of the public. Got yourself a despotic oil state, or a Ponzi finance scheme, fill your boots.
E65Ross said:
Cups Renault said:
Who gives a flying feck
Not an achievement when it costs as much as it does
Pointless and utterly irrelevant to all but 0.001% of the public. Got yourself a despotic oil state, or a Ponzi finance scheme, fill your boots.
Not an achievement because of how much it costs? You can throw all the money in the world at something but if the brains aren't there to come up with such a masterpiece it still wouldn't happen. Of course it is an achievement. Was the moonlanding not an achievement because it cost so much to do? Of course it is a great accomplishment.Not an achievement when it costs as much as it does
Pointless and utterly irrelevant to all but 0.001% of the public. Got yourself a despotic oil state, or a Ponzi finance scheme, fill your boots.
Pointless, perhaps. Irrelevant to most people, if not everyone? Almost certainly. But that doesn't make it less amazing. Climbing Mount Everest is a remarkable thing, it's pointless and irrelevant, but is it still an accomplishment? Bloody right it is.
Now f
k off to mumsnet.AmosMoses said:
Imagine if you had a blowout at 300mph. Hitting a tree would turn you into human puree
All hypothetical.How many Veyron or Chiron videos do you see online of customers doing 200mph and beyond? Very rarely.
They'll be driven around places like Dubai, London, Monaco and New York and owners will be having orgies with $10,000 per night high end escorts.
If I had that sort of money that's exactly what I'd be doing.
Schermerhorn said:
AmosMoses said:
Imagine if you had a blowout at 300mph. Hitting a tree would turn you into human puree
All hypothetical.How many Veyron or Chiron videos do you see online of customers doing 200mph and beyond? Very rarely.
They'll be driven around places like Dubai, London, Monaco and New York and owners will be having orgies with $10,000 per night high end escorts.
If I had that sort of money that's exactly what I'd be doing.
Gameface said:
You've no proof of that whatsoever.
Kubevoid said:
I suspect Bugatti will sell a limited run in the exact spec called 300 or whatever. Then charge double the price. Actually £3m has a nice ring to it.
Kubevoid said:
I suspect Bugatti will sell a limited run in the exact spec called 300 or whatever. Then charge double the price. Actually £3m has a nice ring to it.
for what it's worth the buggati site images refer to the car as the SS300 I think this will be the supersport.
there are also rumours of 2x supersports - 1x track focused version and this
MDL111 said:
quite a few people in Germany do 200 mph on a semi-regular basis. I remember reading a post from somebody on ferrarichat, who exceeds 300 kph nearly every day on his way to work. I hardly go that fast anymore, but it would easily be possible - usually ease off around 280-290 nowadays. not sure how many Veyrons/Chrions reside in Germany, but there must be a few given how much Germans love their fast cars
this and also in America every year for some speed festival thing in the desert there's always quite a few veyron owners who go there and do 200+ Cups Renault said:
Who gives a flying feck
Not an achievement when it costs as much as it does
Pointless and utterly irrelevant to all but 0.001% of the public. Got yourself a despotic oil state, or a Ponzi finance scheme, fill your boots.
Most of what we consume on TV and through the media is largely irrelevant to us.Not an achievement when it costs as much as it does
Pointless and utterly irrelevant to all but 0.001% of the public. Got yourself a despotic oil state, or a Ponzi finance scheme, fill your boots.
I dont want to just hear about stuff I can do "J4CKO today hit 84 mph on the M56 in a largely production BMW hatchback on the way to his parents house" isnt very interesting is it ?
I am trying to keep a sense of childlike wonder as I get older, remember when everything seemed so amazing ?
We spend years getting embittered, trying to spot the joins, pick holes in things, sometimes it is acceptable to say, watch a magic trick and not expose how its done. Its is not a weakness to just believe and it doesnt make you super smart by explaining things to death, celebrate achievements magnanimously.
Just try enjoying and appreciating things on face value occasionally, yes most of us will never own one, probably never see one, and those who do probably wont try to hit 304 mph, someone did it for them, the record was set.
Also, we need to accept expensive things and rich people exist, not all of them have been nice to get that money and yes a Bugatti Chirons worth of cash would pay for a lot more worthy things, but the world doesnt work like that get used to it. What a dull place it would be if people only ever spent on worthy, sensible stuff ? maybe do with a few more oligarchs tipping up a few quid but some will, some wont.
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