RE: £20m Rolls-Royce Boat Tail opens 'Coachbuilt'
Discussion
thegreenhell said:
Three individuals collectively dreamt up the same bespoke vision, so they don't even get to be unique for their £20m. Maybe they get to have a different pen in the special pen holder, or something.
Three individuals, along with Rolls, decided collectively that they were all in the position to make this happen and shared the same vision as to what they would wish for from a bespoke commission. Hope that is easier for you to understand this time.......Harrypop said:
thegreenhell said:
Three individuals collectively dreamt up the same bespoke vision, so they don't even get to be unique for their £20m. Maybe they get to have a different pen in the special pen holder, or something.
Three individuals, along with Rolls, decided collectively that they were all in the position to make this happen and shared the same vision as to what they would wish for from a bespoke commission. Hope that is easier for you to understand this time.......
swisstoni said:
I’m all for the super rich who want to get rid of their $$$$ at a rate of knots.
Keeps others employed and all that.
Yep. Clearly I’m not in the market for a £20m car, and if I were I’d be looking at F1’s and 250GTOs, but if three mega-rich individuals can keep half the factory’s craftsmen employed during a recession, then I suppose we should be thanking them! Keeps others employed and all that.
Weird looking thing though, and not different enough - apart from the rear - to justify the price tag.
sidesauce said:
Bonefish Blues said:
I think it's a rather vulgar purchase and that they've been turned over by Rolls Royce.
What are you thinking I'm implying?
Yeah. Ok. Whatever you say.What are you thinking I'm implying?
Sandpit Steve said:
swisstoni said:
I’m all for the super rich who want to get rid of their $$$$ at a rate of knots.
Keeps others employed and all that.
Yep. Clearly I’m not in the market for a £20m car, and if I were I’d be looking at F1’s and 250GTOs, but if three mega-rich individuals can keep half the factory’s craftsmen employed during a recession, then I suppose we should be thanking them! Keeps others employed and all that.
Weird looking thing though, and not different enough - apart from the rear - to justify the price tag.
Not bad when you consider they were $18K new.
Gecko1978 said:
Jay Z and Beyonce apparently are the purchasers. Good for them. Still don't like it but then its not my 20m its theres.
Ahh, got ya. I didn't put two and two together when they mentioned were earlier in the thread. Good luck to em, they certainly aren't going to need to be cutting back on the groceries to be able to afford them!Harrypop said:
Gecko1978 said:
Jay Z and Beyonce apparently are the purchasers. Good for them. Still don't like it but then its not my 20m its theres.
Ahh, got ya. I didn't put two and two together when they mentioned were earlier in the thread. Good luck to em, they certainly aren't going to need to be cutting back on the groceries to be able to afford them!Still hate the car though and think its dumb
Lord.Vader said:
For people who would be thinking about one of these £20m is pocket change, a rounding error or a days shift in their bank balance.
It’s a car for people where money isn’t a real thing, to show their friends, to drive to their mega yacht.
Fantastic they still plan to build things like this, not sure why people need to label someone as ‘vulgar’, your comments just smack of envy.
It is not "envy" to think that accruing wealth such as this is repulsive greed. When you have to search for something like this to give value to your life in a "look at me" desperate and yes vulgar demonstration of wealth is simply repulsive.It’s a car for people where money isn’t a real thing, to show their friends, to drive to their mega yacht.
Fantastic they still plan to build things like this, not sure why people need to label someone as ‘vulgar’, your comments just smack of envy.
I don't have a problem with people having more money than me, I will never own a hypercar, a yacht or more property than the house I live in. I'm OK with people who do though. But when we are talking of wealth so great that it is impossible to spend in multiple lifetimes that is gross. It is unnecessary and simply absorbs wealth, the lie that these billionaires are "wealth creators" seems to go unchallenged. The fact that they have a bank account with more digits than my telephone number means that money is taken out of circulation. When money is spent as has been said here, money is circulated when it sits in a bank account it is simply being hoarded. By definition a Billionaire is hoarding money. A lot of money.
Oh and the car is ugly too.
Rumblestripe said:
The fact that they have a bank account with more digits than my telephone number means that money is taken out of circulation. When money is spent as has been said here, money is circulated when it sits in a bank account it is simply being hoarded. By definition a Billionaire is hoarding money. A lot of money.
Actually most SFRs have the majority of their wealth tied up in assets and many are light on cash in fist.In that position, it might be more satisfying to spend £20m on charitable endeavours changing lives for the better.
HocusPocus said:
Rumblestripe said:
The fact that they have a bank account with more digits than my telephone number means that money is taken out of circulation. When money is spent as has been said here, money is circulated when it sits in a bank account it is simply being hoarded. By definition a Billionaire is hoarding money. A lot of money.
Actually most SFRs have the majority of their wealth tied up in assets and many are light on cash in fist.In that position, it might be more satisfying to spend £20m on charitable endeavours changing lives for the better.
It's the difference between actual money and associated wealth.
Also, I am not sure you can knock anyone for selling a product (music, services, companies...) for a lot of money. Beats and Tidal were sold for the agreed market rate. Both of the folks involved have extensive music catalogs that have significant value.
As for the final point - who says how much they also give to charitable endeavours? It could be the price of their Roller 10-times over for all we know.
In short - it's their money, they've earned it and are free to do whatever they want. In this instance, I am probably more disappointed that RR are having a lend of them with that stupid price tag.
PhantomPH said:
I don't think the media helps with those misconceptions. People regularly refer to Bezos as the richest man in the world, but the guy doesn't have $150bn+ in his Coutts account (although I imagine he has a decent chunk!). The difference here is that Bay-Z likely do have accounts full of cash (or at least accessible investments) as their wealth is built up from actual income (not company valuations as in the case of Bezos).
Bezos' new superyacht is estimated top be costing him more than $500m. I doubt that Jay-Z could afford that.thegreenhell said:
PhantomPH said:
I don't think the media helps with those misconceptions. People regularly refer to Bezos as the richest man in the world, but the guy doesn't have $150bn+ in his Coutts account (although I imagine he has a decent chunk!). The difference here is that Bay-Z likely do have accounts full of cash (or at least accessible investments) as their wealth is built up from actual income (not company valuations as in the case of Bezos).
Bezos' new superyacht is estimated top be costing him more than $500m. I doubt that Jay-Z could afford that.(also - have you seen the bit where ever at £500m, he will still have another super yacht that follows the larger one around as a floating supply ship/garage for his cars? That's proper Bond-villain-level s
t right there. 
)PhantomPH said:
HocusPocus said:
Rumblestripe said:
The fact that they have a bank account with more digits than my telephone number means that money is taken out of circulation. When money is spent as has been said here, money is circulated when it sits in a bank account it is simply being hoarded. By definition a Billionaire is hoarding money. A lot of money.
Actually most SFRs have the majority of their wealth tied up in assets and many are light on cash in fist.In that position, it might be more satisfying to spend £20m on charitable endeavours changing lives for the better.
It's the difference between actual money and associated wealth.
Also, I am not sure you can knock anyone for selling a product (music, services, companies...) for a lot of money. Beats and Tidal were sold for the agreed market rate. Both of the folks involved have extensive music catalogs that have significant value.
As for the final point - who says how much they also give to charitable endeavours? It could be the price of their Roller 10-times over for all we know.
In short - it's their money, they've earned it and are free to do whatever they want. In this instance, I am probably more disappointed that RR are having a lend of them with that stupid price tag.
I've never understood why getting some of a billionaires money as charity is regarded as preferable to getting it as salary for building a yacht or car so not needing charity in the first place.
PhantomPH said:
HocusPocus said:
Rumblestripe said:
The fact that they have a bank account with more digits than my telephone number means that money is taken out of circulation. When money is spent as has been said here, money is circulated when it sits in a bank account it is simply being hoarded. By definition a Billionaire is hoarding money. A lot of money.
Actually most SFRs have the majority of their wealth tied up in assets and many are light on cash in fist.In that position, it might be more satisfying to spend £20m on charitable endeavours changing lives for the better.
It's the difference between actual money and associated wealth.
Also, I am not sure you can knock anyone for selling a product (music, services, companies...) for a lot of money. Beats and Tidal were sold for the agreed market rate. Both of the folks involved have extensive music catalogs that have significant value.
As for the final point - who says how much they also give to charitable endeavours? It could be the price of their Roller 10-times over for all we know.
In short - it's their money, they've earned it and are free to do whatever they want. In this instance, I am probably more disappointed that RR are having a lend of them with that stupid price tag.
h on someone being a successful entrepreneur who is lucky enough to achieve a liquidity event. (So long as the business model is not designed to inflict harm on others for self enrichment, eg a payday lender preying on the desperate). Then enjoy spending the fun vouchers as one wishes.Some are addictedt to the god of the next buck, never having enough. Others have broader life goals.
Suppose this particular car is such an extreme example of personal peacocking that it brings into focus the human values behind that choice.
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