RE: Toyota GR86 sells out in 40 minutes
Discussion
BFleming said:
8 pages of comments in, and I remain gobsmacked - mostly over the fact that anyone is getting excited about the GR86. I am missing something massive here... but I don't think I am. My advice to anyone contemplating one of these is broadly "don't (mayble luckily you can't - for now)". But I guess that depends on how you're buying one.
- Leasing one - got for it; probably not your money anyhow.
- Buying one with cash - I guess you really want one; fill your boots, enjoy the drive (and you will).
- Buying one as an investment. Hahahahahaha No. Just no. These will never make money. Never. No way.
I know some of you will disagree, but this is merely the GT86 replacement after all, and that was a bit of an anticlimax.
You seem a tad excited about crapping on other peoples chips though? So there must be something about it attracting you to comment repeatedly!- Leasing one - got for it; probably not your money anyhow.
- Buying one with cash - I guess you really want one; fill your boots, enjoy the drive (and you will).
- Buying one as an investment. Hahahahahaha No. Just no. These will never make money. Never. No way.
I know some of you will disagree, but this is merely the GT86 replacement after all, and that was a bit of an anticlimax.
danp said:
SidewaysSi said:
The best affordable sports car but the rear seats are fecking useless if the same as the old one. Think my 911 is more practical in that regard.
Which puts it in a rather tricky position for me unfortunately.
ADAC say this about the 997: “There is little space at the rear, passengers over 1.50 in size have contact with the roof and the seat backrests.”Which puts it in a rather tricky position for me unfortunately.
and this about the GT86: “There is hardly any space on the two emergency seats in the rear - these are absolutely not suitable for long distances. If the front seats are set to 1.85 m tall people, the legroom in the rear is sufficient for a maximum of 1.56 m tall people.”
I tried my children in the back of a GT86 and found my daughter (162cm) had a few cm clearance to the roof, so as a 2+1 we should be OK for a few years with her in the front and son behind as he’s much smaller.
As a 2+2 with my wife on board he’d have to sit cross legged behind me, so not ideal!
Was half thinking about getting one to sit alongside the Porsche but wasn't entirely sold on it so didn't bother.
LBW2020 said:
Trevor555 said:
you can do that with any car....so i am missing your point ...?
Are you a troll?
Try doing this in a Cashcow or in any overweight SUV or modern FWD car, mate:
https://youtu.be/lmArTO5DyDw
The Twin Cam was that rare thing - it was 100% fun out of the box, no mods needed. It was a light RWD car, with modest grip levels, a sweet, unburstable engine, great steering feel and a snicky gearbox. Not massively quick; but quick enough; and boy, were they fun. If the new one is even half as good, it'll be a belter
BFleming said:
8 pages of comments in, and I remain gobsmacked - mostly over the fact that anyone is getting excited about the GR86. I am missing something massive here... but I don't think I am. My advice to anyone contemplating one of these is broadly "don't (mayble luckily you can't - for now)". But I guess that depends on how you're buying one.
- Leasing one - got for it; probably not your money anyhow.
- Buying one with cash - I guess you really want one; fill your boots, enjoy the drive (and you will).
- Buying one as an investment. Hahahahahaha No. Just no. These will never make money. Never. No way.
I know some of you will disagree, but this is merely the GT86 replacement after all, and that was a bit of an anticlimax.
Which attainable fun car do you get excited about?- Leasing one - got for it; probably not your money anyhow.
- Buying one with cash - I guess you really want one; fill your boots, enjoy the drive (and you will).
- Buying one as an investment. Hahahahahaha No. Just no. These will never make money. Never. No way.
I know some of you will disagree, but this is merely the GT86 replacement after all, and that was a bit of an anticlimax.
BFleming said:
8 pages of comments in, and I remain gobsmacked - mostly over the fact that anyone is getting excited about the GR86. I am missing something massive here... but I don't think I am. My advice to anyone contemplating one of these is broadly "don't (mayble luckily you can't - for now)". But I guess that depends on how you're buying one.
- Leasing one - got for it; probably not your money anyhow.
- Buying one with cash - I guess you really want one; fill your boots, enjoy the drive (and you will).
- Buying one as an investment. Hahahahahaha No. Just no. These will never make money. Never. No way.
I know some of you will disagree, but this is merely the GT86 replacement after all, and that was a bit of an anticlimax.
f- Leasing one - got for it; probably not your money anyhow.
- Buying one with cash - I guess you really want one; fill your boots, enjoy the drive (and you will).
- Buying one as an investment. Hahahahahaha No. Just no. These will never make money. Never. No way.
I know some of you will disagree, but this is merely the GT86 replacement after all, and that was a bit of an anticlimax.
k. I was really looking forward to getting mine until I read that
Might cancel now
ecsrobin said:
It’s the last sentence that casts doubt.
“There will be another opportunity for customers to obtain a GR sports car with manual transmission later this year, following Toyota’s recent announcement that it will introduce a manual version of the GR Supra coupe. Further details will be announced soon.”
You’d have thought if there was another batch they’d have said there will be another opportunity to get a GR86.
I suspect that Toyota announcing a manual Supra at a similar time to the limited supply of GR86s running out is no coincidence. Toyota can't make any more GR86s in the limited time before it can't sell them in Europe so it's trying to coax as many disappointed customers as possible into a Supra instead to maximise that car's production run too. Smart business if a shame for customers seeking a 2+2.“There will be another opportunity for customers to obtain a GR sports car with manual transmission later this year, following Toyota’s recent announcement that it will introduce a manual version of the GR Supra coupe. Further details will be announced soon.”
You’d have thought if there was another batch they’d have said there will be another opportunity to get a GR86.
Edited by blearyeyedboy on Saturday 23 April 09:17
Wab1974uk said:
Who'd have thought just a couple years ago that Toyota would produce 2 cars that everyone wanted, and allocations would sell out straight away?
GR Yaris
GR86.
I assume the same will happen with the GR Corolla.
Would have thought so. I really liked the GR Yaris and I'd definitely have a GR86 but they're not really a good fit with life at the moment and I can't afford to run a third car. But the Corolla solves all that! There must be plenty in my position who'd have one in heartbeat.GR Yaris
GR86.
I assume the same will happen with the GR Corolla.
I admit I'm a bit confused by the BMW comparisons, because I don't think there is much of one besides the fact that both have wheels and seats.
My friend kindly let me drive his M2 enthusiastically and it's quick. It is the car which has given me the second highest impression of mass, momentum and inertia though out of everything I've driven apart from a P38 Range Rover. Subjective sure, and it's not the heaviest car I've driven by a long stretch but it really feels heavy. It felt heavier than my XFR-S and it felt heavier than the V8 F-Type people preemptively slate for being too heavy. The steering has good weight but little feel and likewise the brakes are heavily boosted which limits pedal feel. The electronics are well tuned and enable bad habits like applying a lot of throttle too early out of corners, which would kick and older car's tail wide but in the M2 you simply hear and feel a momentary scrub of the inside rear tyre which the car curtails very neatly. It is quick despite this for having a lot of torque and humongous tyres and brakes. Not a bad car at all, and actually still very enjoyable to drive if happy to fund the consumables but not really comparable to a GR86.
I think the issue for many on Pistonheads is that so many nowadays have not driven a light car in a very long time, if ever, and hence form opinions and make statements which aren't based on actual experience or observation since they have no real basis for comparison.
My friend kindly let me drive his M2 enthusiastically and it's quick. It is the car which has given me the second highest impression of mass, momentum and inertia though out of everything I've driven apart from a P38 Range Rover. Subjective sure, and it's not the heaviest car I've driven by a long stretch but it really feels heavy. It felt heavier than my XFR-S and it felt heavier than the V8 F-Type people preemptively slate for being too heavy. The steering has good weight but little feel and likewise the brakes are heavily boosted which limits pedal feel. The electronics are well tuned and enable bad habits like applying a lot of throttle too early out of corners, which would kick and older car's tail wide but in the M2 you simply hear and feel a momentary scrub of the inside rear tyre which the car curtails very neatly. It is quick despite this for having a lot of torque and humongous tyres and brakes. Not a bad car at all, and actually still very enjoyable to drive if happy to fund the consumables but not really comparable to a GR86.
I think the issue for many on Pistonheads is that so many nowadays have not driven a light car in a very long time, if ever, and hence form opinions and make statements which aren't based on actual experience or observation since they have no real basis for comparison.
Bathroom_Security said:
BFleming said:
8 pages of comments in, and I remain gobsmacked - mostly over the fact that anyone is getting excited about the GR86. I am missing something massive here... but I don't think I am. My advice to anyone contemplating one of these is broadly "don't (mayble luckily you can't - for now)". But I guess that depends on how you're buying one.
- Leasing one - got for it; probably not your money anyhow.
- Buying one with cash - I guess you really want one; fill your boots, enjoy the drive (and you will).
- Buying one as an investment. Hahahahahaha No. Just no. These will never make money. Never. No way.
I know some of you will disagree, but this is merely the GT86 replacement after all, and that was a bit of an anticlimax.
f- Leasing one - got for it; probably not your money anyhow.
- Buying one with cash - I guess you really want one; fill your boots, enjoy the drive (and you will).
- Buying one as an investment. Hahahahahaha No. Just no. These will never make money. Never. No way.
I know some of you will disagree, but this is merely the GT86 replacement after all, and that was a bit of an anticlimax.
k. I was really looking forward to getting mine until I read that
Might cancel now
jamieduff1981 said:
I admit I'm a bit confused by the BMW comparisons, because I don't think there is much of one besides the fact that both have wheels and seats.
My friend kindly let me drive his M2 enthusiastically and it's quick. It is the car which has given me the second highest impression of mass, momentum and inertia though out of everything I've driven apart from a P38 Range Rover. Subjective sure, and it's not the heaviest car I've driven by a long stretch but it really feels heavy. It felt heavier than my XFR-S and it felt heavier than the V8 F-Type people preemptively slate for being too heavy. The steering has good weight but little feel and likewise the brakes are heavily boosted which limits pedal feel. The electronics are well tuned and enable bad habits like applying a lot of throttle too early out of corners, which would kick and older car's tail wide but in the M2 you simply hear and feel a momentary scrub of the inside rear tyre which the car curtails very neatly. It is quick despite this for having a lot of torque and humongous tyres and brakes. Not a bad car at all, and actually still very enjoyable to drive if happy to fund the consumables but not really comparable to a GR86.
I think the issue for many on Pistonheads is that so many nowadays have not driven a light car in a very long time, if ever, and hence form opinions and make statements which aren't based on actual experience or observation since they have no real basis for comparison.
+1My friend kindly let me drive his M2 enthusiastically and it's quick. It is the car which has given me the second highest impression of mass, momentum and inertia though out of everything I've driven apart from a P38 Range Rover. Subjective sure, and it's not the heaviest car I've driven by a long stretch but it really feels heavy. It felt heavier than my XFR-S and it felt heavier than the V8 F-Type people preemptively slate for being too heavy. The steering has good weight but little feel and likewise the brakes are heavily boosted which limits pedal feel. The electronics are well tuned and enable bad habits like applying a lot of throttle too early out of corners, which would kick and older car's tail wide but in the M2 you simply hear and feel a momentary scrub of the inside rear tyre which the car curtails very neatly. It is quick despite this for having a lot of torque and humongous tyres and brakes. Not a bad car at all, and actually still very enjoyable to drive if happy to fund the consumables but not really comparable to a GR86.
I think the issue for many on Pistonheads is that so many nowadays have not driven a light car in a very long time, if ever, and hence form opinions and make statements which aren't based on actual experience or observation since they have no real basis for comparison.
It probably does compare quite well to a E30 M3, which was iconic. Oh yeh, there's just one problem they don't make them anymore, they only make fat heavy cars now.
I missed out too, silly me i went to a dealership to be told it was online only and the list had closed so i reckon i am at the arse end of the waiting list. What makes it more frustrating is that the dealership said they can get hold of a demonstrator when they become available! Great! come and drive a car that you can't buy!!!!! I am living in hope that the quota will be upped and all those on the waiting list get the opportunity to buy. I also believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny...
Ordering one of these is a joke.
A good friend of mine paid his deposit to a dealer in Kent over a week before this online launch (of which he wasn't made aware of) order and spec confirmed.
Dealer calls him to say his order is cancelled a week later as the online order day sold out! How is this even acceptable? He was in way before as were others. He's been waiting months to do this, cash buyer, first decent car in years.
Dealer has apparently escalated the case to the "regional manager"
A good friend of mine paid his deposit to a dealer in Kent over a week before this online launch (of which he wasn't made aware of) order and spec confirmed.
Dealer calls him to say his order is cancelled a week later as the online order day sold out! How is this even acceptable? He was in way before as were others. He's been waiting months to do this, cash buyer, first decent car in years.
Dealer has apparently escalated the case to the "regional manager"
Quags said:
Ordering one of these is a joke.
A good friend of mine paid his deposit to a dealer in Kent over a week before this online launch (of which he wasn't made aware of) order and spec confirmed.
Dealer calls him to say his order is cancelled a week later as the online order day sold out! How is this even acceptable? He was in way before as were others. He's been waiting months to do this, cash buyer, first decent car in years.
Dealer has apparently escalated the case to the "regional manager"
I ordered a GR Yaris with my local dealer the day I saw them in a magazine article, about a year before online orders went live.A good friend of mine paid his deposit to a dealer in Kent over a week before this online launch (of which he wasn't made aware of) order and spec confirmed.
Dealer calls him to say his order is cancelled a week later as the online order day sold out! How is this even acceptable? He was in way before as were others. He's been waiting months to do this, cash buyer, first decent car in years.
Dealer has apparently escalated the case to the "regional manager"
They didn't get me a car in the first batch, but got me a cancellation soon after, so worth speaking to some people, you never know.
Quags said:
Ordering one of these is a joke.
A good friend of mine paid his deposit to a dealer in Kent over a week before this online launch (of which he wasn't made aware of) order and spec confirmed.
Dealer calls him to say his order is cancelled a week later as the online order day sold out! How is this even acceptable? He was in way before as were others. He's been waiting months to do this, cash buyer, first decent car in years.
Dealer has apparently escalated the case to the "regional manager"
Has he not kept his eye on what's been coming out? His mistake as I thought this was fairly well signposted.A good friend of mine paid his deposit to a dealer in Kent over a week before this online launch (of which he wasn't made aware of) order and spec confirmed.
Dealer calls him to say his order is cancelled a week later as the online order day sold out! How is this even acceptable? He was in way before as were others. He's been waiting months to do this, cash buyer, first decent car in years.
Dealer has apparently escalated the case to the "regional manager"
Quags said:
Ordering one of these is a joke.
A good friend of mine paid his deposit to a dealer in Kent over a week before this online launch (of which he wasn't made aware of) order and spec confirmed.
Dealer calls him to say his order is cancelled a week later as the online order day sold out! How is this even acceptable? He was in way before as were others. He's been waiting months to do this, cash buyer, first decent car in years.
Dealer has apparently escalated the case to the "regional manager"
No the dealer is a joke. He shouldn’t have taken a deposit on a car that he wasn’t selling and a week after it was known it was online only A good friend of mine paid his deposit to a dealer in Kent over a week before this online launch (of which he wasn't made aware of) order and spec confirmed.
Dealer calls him to say his order is cancelled a week later as the online order day sold out! How is this even acceptable? He was in way before as were others. He's been waiting months to do this, cash buyer, first decent car in years.
Dealer has apparently escalated the case to the "regional manager"
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