RE: Check out the most valuable Ferrari ever auctioned

[esixtythree]

Jon_S_Rally said:

It's the obvious go-to <snip!>

You're just being an obvious crank / troll at this point. Obviously a nerve has been hit.

[CKY]

Julian Scott said:

Both parked outside an F1 paddock. You think the Toyota would gain greater interest?

What an odd question to ask and an odd consideration to make. WTF would anyone in an F1 paddock know about either a '63 250GTO or a Toyota 2000GT? Surely the interest would be centred around whatever was happening on track - granted my years at the British GP in the BRDC Farm weren't outside the F1 paddock, but even there the McLaren F1 and Veyrons parked metres away garnered very little attention.

[Joeyhey]

• Unpopular Opinion Alert*

It's OK, but I just don't see the appeal myself.

I'd rather a 993 turbo, a bug eye WRX STI wagon and a healthy bank account

[Julian Scott]

CKY said:

Julian Scott said:

Both parked outside an F1 paddock. You think the Toyota would gain greater interest?

What an odd question to ask and an odd consideration to make. WTF would anyone in an F1 paddock know about either a '63 250GTO or a Toyota 2000GT? Surely the interest would be centred around whatever was happening on track - granted my years at the British GP in the BRDC Farm weren't outside the F1 paddock, but even there the McLaren F1 and Veyrons parked metres away garnered very little attention.

Car centric crowd chosen to demonstrate car interest. Thats Odd? To save your blood pressure, swap 'F1 Paddock' for "any area populated by car interested people" - the point will still remain solid.

Shove it in the middle of Wythenshawe and the neon lit clip will get more attention ;-)

[torquespeak]

Not sure if this has already been mentioned in the thread above, but the car sold is not a 250 GTO.

Ferrari only built 36 - and this isn't one of them.

It's a 330 LM with some modifications in the GTO style, so I guess a charitable title would be "330 LM 'GTO Spec'" given how some modified McLaren F1s have been sold.

But it certainly isn't one of the original 33 Series I cars as stated in the opening of this article.

-Ed

[LotusOmega375D]

Yes it has been mentioned before, but it’s really a 330 GTO.

There used to be one in the UK registered with that very number.

[torquespeak]

Yes, 4561SA is colloquially known as a '330 GTO', although I think if that was ever offered publicly it would probably be described in a similar way as being built to a 'GTO style' specification.

Certainly neither car is 'a GTO' as far as chassis naming goes. They're hugely valuable one-off factory specials, but not GTOs.

-Ed

[NGK210]

Julian Scott said:

Jon_S_Rally said:

NGK210 said:

^This. Ghastly, smarmy and pretentious bunch. Ironically, it perfectly illustrates why Enzo vetted owners.

Provenance be damned: I'd commission GTO Engineering to make a replica, but with a 4.4-litre Colombo converted to run on a Motec ECU with fuel-injection and ITBs; fabricate double-wishbone IRS; ditto 17in Borranis (to allow a brake upgrade and modern 65-profile tyres). And the bloody tail pipes will have an upsweep and a couple of brackets.

Cost? I reckon c. £2 million will suffice. Bargain.

Have you met the owner, or are you just assuming he's smarmy and pretentious?

PH, where green-eyed stereotypes are king.

While it's clear you see yourselves as self-appointed forum mods, relentlessly posting banal platitudes re. others' posts, it's also apparent your comprehension of English is limited and/or you're both idiots, so allow me to clarify:

The word "bunch" is plural, a synonym for group. Was the car bought by a group? No, the new owner has chosen to remain anonymous.

Thus, "smarmy and pretentious bunch" refers to the group of auctioneers and PR/marketing people involved in the car's sale.

"Ironically" refers to the late Enzo F's distaste for such BS, and why he personally vetted, and the fact that his company's marketing dept was involved in this car's sale.

Meanwhile, it might be useful if you were to both wind your neck in.

Edited by NGK210 on Saturday 18th November 19:36

[Jon_S_Rally]

esixtythree said:

You're just being an obvious crank / troll at this point. Obviously a nerve has been hit.

You're the one making endless digs at rich folk, but I'm the crank / troll? Sure.

NGK210 said:

While it's clear you see yourselves as self-appointed forum mods, relentlessly posting banal platitudes re. others' posts, it's also apparent your comprehension of English is limited and/or you're both idiots, so allow me to clarify:

The word "bunch" is plural, a synonym for group. Was the car bought by a group? No, the new owner has chosen to remain anonymous.

Thus, "smarmy and pretentious bunch" refers to the group of auctioneers and PR/marketing people involved in the car's sale.

"Ironically" refers to the late Enzo F's distaste for such BS, and why he personally vetted, and the fact that his company's marketing dept was involved in this car's sale.

Meanwhile, it might be useful if you were to both wind your neck in.

Edited by NGK210 on Saturday 18th November 19:36

Once you resort to personal insults, your argument has basically fallen apart. It has nothing to do with moderation, and is simply about challenging silly viewpoints that make needless judgements about others, usually based on an underlying prejudice.

The auction house and PR people are working towards meeting the needs of their customers. It's got nothing to do with being smarmy, they just operate in a certain market and aim their materials as such. Just because you don't like it, doesn't make it pretentious.

[Julian Scott]

NGK210 said:

Julian Scott said:

Jon_S_Rally said:

NGK210 said:

^This. Ghastly, smarmy and pretentious bunch. Ironically, it perfectly illustrates why Enzo vetted owners.

Provenance be damned: I'd commission GTO Engineering to make a replica, but with a 4.4-litre Colombo converted to run on a Motec ECU with fuel-injection and ITBs; fabricate double-wishbone IRS; ditto 17in Borranis (to allow a brake upgrade and modern 65-profile tyres). And the bloody tail pipes will have an upsweep and a couple of brackets.

Cost? I reckon c. £2 million will suffice. Bargain.

Have you met the owner, or are you just assuming he's smarmy and pretentious?

PH, where green-eyed stereotypes are king.

While it's clear you see yourselves as self-appointed forum mods, relentlessly posting banal platitudes re. others' posts, it's also apparent your comprehension of English is limited and/or you're both idiots, so allow me to clarify:

The word "bunch" is plural, a synonym for group. Was the car bought by a group? No, the new owner has chosen to remain anonymous.

Thus, "smarmy and pretentious bunch" refers to the group of auctioneers and PR/marketing people involved in the car's sale.

"Ironically" refers to the late Enzo F's distaste for such BS, and why he personally vetted, and the fact that his company's marketing dept was involved in this car's sale.

Meanwhile, it might be useful if you were to both wind your neck in.

Edited by NGK210 on Saturday 18th November 19:36

Where did I get caught into that?

It's perhaps clearer that you see yourself as a self-appointed forum mod, and perhaps authority on everything with a side order of perfect knowledge. If there is neck winding to be done, perhaps start with the image you see in your mirror?

[Muzzer79]

Joeyhey said:

*Unpopular Opinion Alert*

It's OK, but I just don't see the appeal myself.

I'd rather a 993 turbo, a bug eye WRX STI wagon and a healthy bank account

This is the point so many miss.

The new owner of this car has a healthier bank account than we can dream of, regardless of whether he spends $55m on this Ferrari or not......

$55m is not a lot of money when you are operating at this level.

[esixtythree]

Muzzer79 said:

$55m is not a lot of money when you are operating at this level.

Actually, it is a lot of money, else those involved would be bidding $550 million. Or $5.5 billion.

Given we are talking about one of the most valuable and desirable cars on the planet, $55 million represents what the wealthiest people on earth view as a lot of money for a car. If $55 million was not a lot of money, they would bid a lot more.

[esixtythree]

Jon_S_Rally said:

You're the one making endless digs at rich folk, but I'm the crank / troll? Sure.

No, I've been reflecting on the motivations of buying cars like this. No digs at all. That's your insecurities inferring something not implied.

[nismo48]

Good fortune to the new owner

[LotusOmega375D]

And the old one. $$$.

[Jonmx]

How does one even begin to insure a vehicle like this for use on the road? I'm guessing a very specialist policy with limited mileage and a load of restrictions around unattended parking etc. That said, the bell weapon that is Adam C on Youtube found an unattended Mclaren F1 in a public car park not so long ago.

[LotusOmega375D]

I know that an ex Le Mans McLaren F1 GTR used to be kept in a rented lock-up town centre garage. The owner bought a crappy old Golf to park in front of the door as an extra deterrent. When the value skyrocketed into 7 figures, the insurance company got nervous and told him to find a more secure location.

I guess at this level, stealing a GTO doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Everyone knows who owns every car. It’s never going to be written-off either. Repairs will be a fraction of the value. It would even make sense to restore a burnt out wreck, rather than pay out the full value.