The ask an MOT tester thread
Discussion
FatboyKim said:
Athlon said:
If the lights work they work, bulb warning lamps are not of interest to us.
LED bulbs in Halogen lamps however, is going to get you a fail!
Not true, it would seem. I've had LED bulbs in the units of my Panda (halogen headlamps) for over 3 years now. Passed every year with no problem at the same testing station (local council testing station, testing all their vehicles).LED bulbs in Halogen lamps however, is going to get you a fail!
They are decent bulbs, Philips if I remember correctly, so don't give a bulb out warning and obviously the adjustment level still operates fine.
FatboyKim said:
Athlon said:
If the lights work they work, bulb warning lamps are not of interest to us.
LED bulbs in Halogen lamps however, is going to get you a fail!
Not true, it would seem. I've had LED bulbs in the units of my Panda (halogen headlamps) for over 3 years now. Passed every year with no problem at the same testing station (local council testing station, testing all their vehicles).LED bulbs in Halogen lamps however, is going to get you a fail!
They are decent bulbs, Philips if I remember correctly, so don't give a bulb out warning and obviously the adjustment level still operates fine.
This is directly from the MOT inspection manual.
"Existing halogen headlamp units on vehicles first used on or after 1 April 1986 must not be converted to be used with high intensity discharge (HID) or light emitting diode (LED) bulbs. If such a conversion has been done, you must fail the headlamp for light source and lamp not compatible."
FatboyKim said:
Athlon said:
If the lights work they work, bulb warning lamps are not of interest to us.
LED bulbs in Halogen lamps however, is going to get you a fail!
Not true, it would seem. I've had LED bulbs in the units of my Panda (halogen headlamps) for over 3 years now. Passed every year with no problem at the same testing station (local council testing station, testing all their vehicles).LED bulbs in Halogen lamps however, is going to get you a fail!
They are decent bulbs, Philips if I remember correctly, so don't give a bulb out warning and obviously the adjustment level still operates fine.
Is £50 normal for MOT? He told he gave a pass. Gave me 2 advisories. Slight oil leak not excessive and front tyres worn close to legal limit on edge. I know, Front tyres have close to 50% life at centre but are more worn on edge and I'm unsure if there is oil leak. Underneath it has oil mist but no leak where I park.
Last year I had got MOT for £30 without any advisories.
Last year I had got MOT for £30 without any advisories.
legendracer said:
Is £50 normal for MOT? He told he gave a pass. Gave me 2 advisories. Slight oil leak not excessive and front tyres worn close to legal limit on edge. I know, Front tyres have close to 50% life at centre but are more worn on edge and I'm unsure if there is oil leak. Underneath it has oil mist but no leak where I park.
Last year I had got MOT for £30 without any advisories.
The maximum a garage can charge for an MOT is £54.85. £50 is pretty normal but some around here do offers for £25. Last year I had got MOT for £30 without any advisories.
Edited by cuprabob on Tuesday 1st March 19:22
legendracer said:
Is £50 normal for MOT? He told he gave a pass. Gave me 2 advisories. Slight oil leak not excessive and front tyres worn close to legal limit on edge. I know, Front tyres have close to 50% life at centre but are more worn on edge and I'm unsure if there is oil leak. Underneath it has oil mist but no leak where I park.
Last year I had got MOT for £30 without any advisories.
In other words the tester was right, the tyres are worn and there is signs of a leak, its generic wording the tester cannot be specific - well they can but it takes time and you end up with more advisories. Last year I had got MOT for £30 without any advisories.
cuprabob said:
legendracer said:
Is £50 normal for MOT? He told he gave a pass. Gave me 2 advisories. Slight oil leak not excessive and front tyres worn close to legal limit on edge. I know, Front tyres have close to 50% life at centre but are more worn on edge and I'm unsure if there is oil leak. Underneath it has oil mist but no leak where I park.
Last year I had got MOT for £30 without any advisories.
The maximum a garage can charge for an MOT is £54.85. £50 is pretty normal but some around here do offers for £25. Last year I had got MOT for £30 without any advisories.
Edited by cuprabob on Tuesday 1st March 19:22
Do testers check tyre size? I've just noticed the dealer I got my ST from has put 225's on the front and not 235's which is what Ford recommend. They have only done 1,500 miles and I'd rather just run them down and then fit 235's rather than ditching a good set of Continentals. Only noticed it as I have just changed the rears and was looking to put the new tyres on the front axle and shift the old ones to the rear.
Daston said:
Do testers check tyre size? I've just noticed the dealer I got my ST from has put 225's on the front and not 235's which is what Ford recommend. They have only done 1,500 miles and I'd rather just run them down and then fit 235's rather than ditching a good set of Continentals. Only noticed it as I have just changed the rears and was looking to put the new tyres on the front axle and shift the old ones to the rear.
Only to check that they are the same across an axle.Athlon said:
LED bulbs in Halogen lamps however, is going to get you a fail!
wolf1 said:
Quite a few of us in here are MOT testers. Athlon who started the ask a tester post is also an MOT tester.
stevemcs said:
Your welcome to bring it to us and we will issue with a fail sheet
Okay, I'll rephrase.Not true, it would seem... BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE. Guess I'll have to see what happens in a couple of months when it's due again then.
Regarding that point about existing halogen units not being converted to HIDs/LEDs etc., does the tester have a reference sheet for every vehicle to confirm whether it had halogens or HID/LED from the factory? I can think of several cars which have halogen-looking headlamp units from the factory, but are in fact LED. Ford Focus, VW Polo, some older Lexus models.
FatboyKim said:
Okay, I'll rephrase.
Not true, it would seem... BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE. Guess I'll have to see what happens in a couple of months when it's due again then.
Regarding that point about existing halogen units not being converted to HIDs/LEDs etc., does the tester have a reference sheet for every vehicle to confirm whether it had halogens or HID/LED from the factory? I can think of several cars which have halogen-looking headlamp units from the factory, but are in fact LED. Ford Focus, VW Polo, some older Lexus models.
For ours, its difficult to see if an LED bulb or xenon is fitted into a projector headlight, standard headlights and its easy to see.Not true, it would seem... BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE. Guess I'll have to see what happens in a couple of months when it's due again then.
Regarding that point about existing halogen units not being converted to HIDs/LEDs etc., does the tester have a reference sheet for every vehicle to confirm whether it had halogens or HID/LED from the factory? I can think of several cars which have halogen-looking headlamp units from the factory, but are in fact LED. Ford Focus, VW Polo, some older Lexus models.
stevemcs said:
FatboyKim said:
Okay, I'll rephrase.
Not true, it would seem... BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE. Guess I'll have to see what happens in a couple of months when it's due again then.
Regarding that point about existing halogen units not being converted to HIDs/LEDs etc., does the tester have a reference sheet for every vehicle to confirm whether it had halogens or HID/LED from the factory? I can think of several cars which have halogen-looking headlamp units from the factory, but are in fact LED. Ford Focus, VW Polo, some older Lexus models.
For ours, its difficult to see if an LED bulb or xenon is fitted into a projector headlight, standard headlights and its easy to see.Not true, it would seem... BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE. Guess I'll have to see what happens in a couple of months when it's due again then.
Regarding that point about existing halogen units not being converted to HIDs/LEDs etc., does the tester have a reference sheet for every vehicle to confirm whether it had halogens or HID/LED from the factory? I can think of several cars which have halogen-looking headlamp units from the factory, but are in fact LED. Ford Focus, VW Polo, some older Lexus models.
FatboyKim said:
Okay, I'll rephrase.
Not true, it would seem... BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE. Guess I'll have to see what happens in a couple of months when it's due again then.
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MoT Testers do not necessarily spot everything, or, in my experience fail everything that is technically a fail.Not true, it would seem... BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE. Guess I'll have to see what happens in a couple of months when it's due again then.
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Maybe you were lucky in your choice of LED bulbs and the pattern was OK and the tester did not notice they were LED.
Some LED H4 bulbs give a poor pattern in some headlamp units and they should rightly fail.
There's a big list of things you can fail on, if noticed and only so much time for the test.
They don't take the vehicle apart to check for illegal parts.
A lot of bikes are passing the MOT with loud exhausts.
That's essentially because the tester chooses not to notice.
My old resto is due to go for MOT very soon.
In truth I don't expect it to pass first time to be fair, but no point in submitting with any known failure points.
Anyway - wipers. Intermittent is ropey for some reason (stick on the downward stroke) but on constant they are fine. Pass or fail.
Also what is the emissions criteria for older cars? (1988 carb fed car)
In truth I don't expect it to pass first time to be fair, but no point in submitting with any known failure points.
Anyway - wipers. Intermittent is ropey for some reason (stick on the downward stroke) but on constant they are fine. Pass or fail.
Also what is the emissions criteria for older cars? (1988 carb fed car)
legendracer said:
Is £50 normal for MOT? He told he gave a pass. Gave me 2 advisories. Slight oil leak not excessive and front tyres worn close to legal limit on edge. I know, Front tyres have close to 50% life at centre but are more worn on edge and I'm unsure if there is oil leak. Underneath it has oil mist but no leak where I park.
Last year I had got MOT for £30 without any advisories.
£10 per advisory then, seems fair. Last year I had got MOT for £30 without any advisories.
StescoG66 said:
My old resto is due to go for MOT very soon.
In truth I don't expect it to pass first time to be fair, but no point in submitting with any known failure points.
Anyway - wipers. Intermittent is ropey for some reason (stick on the downward stroke) but on constant they are fine. Pass or fail.
Also what is the emissions criteria for older cars? (1988 carb fed car)
If you can get the wipers to park in the correct position they will be fine.In truth I don't expect it to pass first time to be fair, but no point in submitting with any known failure points.
Anyway - wipers. Intermittent is ropey for some reason (stick on the downward stroke) but on constant they are fine. Pass or fail.
Also what is the emissions criteria for older cars? (1988 carb fed car)
For a 1988 vehicle only two gases are checked. The CO limit is 3.5% and the HC limit is1200 parts per million (ppm).
E63eeeeee... said:
MG CHRIS said:
Never understood the can charge up to thing it really should be this is the price can't charge anything else but this.
Why? MG CHRIS said:
E63eeeeee... said:
MG CHRIS said:
Never understood the can charge up to thing it really should be this is the price can't charge anything else but this.
Why? I am pretty sure that if it was the DVLA, it would cost more money to the tax payer.... Gov VS Private, other endless topic
MG CHRIS said:
... In my opinion MOT shouldn't be allowed at private garages it should be done in dvsa sites but that's just my opinion.
I suspect fraud would increase if the government ran the MoT centres (as the tester would only be risking his job rather than the whole business).I'm sure plenty of garage owners are happy that other stations offer cut price MoTs as that keeps away the cheapskate punters who are a a hassle to deal with.
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