RE: SOTW Special: Ford Puma

RE: SOTW Special: Ford Puma

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Jayho

2,047 posts

172 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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y2blade said:
johnpeat said:
Jayho said:
:S Were the owners of the cars aware of this game you played?
I'm not talking about ragging cars to bits - my job mainly involved checking for rattles, squeaks and other problems related to trim/mechanicals having been removed/refitted (or replaced).

The commonest customer complaint when I got there was of rattles or squeaks (or bits of trim falling off entirely). I just sorted-out a test-drive which would find this sort of stuff BEFORE the customer did - and I@m pretty good at finding rattles wink

Mate of mine does a similar job for a main dealer and his brief includes giving the car considerably more punishment than I did - it's called 'road testing' for a reason smile Zero point in pussy-footing-around in your car only for you to get in it, drive off like Sterling Moss and have something fall off it, is there?? smile

Edited by johnpeat on Saturday 16th July 20:30


p.s. I should also add that I know of garages/bodyshops where cars are raced and allsorts - in fact someone I worked-with had his car written-off by a 'delivery driver' doing 120 - I'm nowhere near that mad!!

Edited by johnpeat on Saturday 16th July 20:31
perks of the job biggrin

I miss not working in the trade at times (car and motorbike trade)
Cool, makes a lot more sense now you've explained what your job involved. I know mechanics usually go for a quick drive to have a better understanding of what's needing done.

PumpkinSteve

4,108 posts

158 months

Saturday 16th July 2011
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What is the gear change like on the Puma? The only other Ford I've driven from the same era is the KA, which evoked feelings of stirring cake mixture for my Grandma when I was a boy.

greggy50

6,183 posts

193 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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PumpkinSteve said:
What is the gear change like on the Puma? The only other Ford I've driven from the same era is the KA, which evoked feelings of stirring cake mixture for my Grandma when I was a boy.
In one word excellent drove a puma quickly before my friend put the engine in his fiesta mk5 and I owned a mk5 fiesta which had a really good gearbox far better than anything else I had tried before it and to be honest the Puma's seemed even better smile

sean737

40 posts

239 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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Great cars for something fwd. If you are not spending any money on it for new front wishbone bushes then those new front tyres will not last long. The frp bushes are a worthwhile investment otherwise the inside of the tyres will wear very quickly.

thetapeworm

11,397 posts

241 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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PumpkinSteve said:
What is the gear change like on the Puma? The only other Ford I've driven from the same era is the KA, which evoked feelings of stirring cake mixture for my Grandma when I was a boy.
It's been one of the highlights on the ones I've had, a very precise and relatively short-throw - the metal ball is just a bit cold in winter and hot in summer if you have sensitive hands on your powerfully built arms.

sawman

4,932 posts

232 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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Pumas are greta little cars, my wife had an early one, we bought it from belguim and sold it with 20k on the clock for more than it cost us! The only complaint I had was the driving position being a bit high.

I tried to pick one up a year or two ago, but after spending a month trekking back and forth across the midlands missing good ones and avoiding ropey examples I gave up.

carinaman

21,396 posts

174 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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I'm not bothered about this being a SOTW rule bender.

Surely there's more to be had with someone spending their money and actually buying something and then reporting back running costs and issues?

What's wrong with some facts and information from running something bought from an advert than people spouting bias, misinformation and urban myths about some car that's advertised somehere.

It's a bit like Top Gear buying that 850i and CL600?

What's wrong with a bit more long term test instead of 'fantasy garage'?

Edited by carinaman on Sunday 17th July 11:17

johnpeat

5,328 posts

267 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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PumpkinSteve said:
What is the gear change like on the Puma? The only other Ford I've driven from the same era is the KA, which evoked feelings of stirring cake mixture for my Grandma when I was a boy.
That KA was broken then - because whilst it's not as snappy as the Puma's, KA's usually have a decent and precise gearbox (for a Ford, anyway).

Unless you're just used to German 'sprung to death' gearshifters - with the consistency of melted toffee and the precision of a lumphammer - and think that's how it's supposed to be smile

spike ST500

1,295 posts

157 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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thetapeworm said:
It's been one of the highlights on the ones I've had, a very precise and relatively short-throw - the metal ball is just a bit cold in winter and hot in summer if you have sensitive hands on your powerfully built arms.
put a sock on it !

Frik

13,544 posts

245 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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johnpeat said:
That KA was broken then - because whilst it's not as snappy as the Puma's, KA's usually have a decent and precise gearbox (for a Ford, anyway).

Unless you're just used to German 'sprung to death' gearshifters - with the consistency of melted toffee and the precision of a lumphammer - and think that's how it's supposed to be smile
Agreed. This one area where Ford have always excelled themselves.

thetapeworm

11,397 posts

241 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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spike ST500 said:
thetapeworm said:
It's been one of the highlights on the ones I've had, a very precise and relatively short-throw - the metal ball is just a bit cold in winter and hot in summer if you have sensitive hands on your powerfully built arms.
put a sock on it !
I went for a "hat" from a smoothie smile

http://www.innocentdrinks.co.uk/bigknit/

PumpkinSteve

4,108 posts

158 months

Sunday 17th July 2011
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johnpeat said:
That KA was broken then - because whilst it's not as snappy as the Puma's, KA's usually have a decent and precise gearbox (for a Ford, anyway).
It's quite possible, I just remember pushing the gearstick in the general direction of the gear and hoping for the best, it was very sloppy. The car had been owned by an old woman, maybe she had hammered the gearbox.

Podie

46,632 posts

277 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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mrpenks said:
Can anyone believe that Ford had a decision back in the naughties as to whether to continue building the Puma or use the factory and line to make the StreetKa instead (only one could be chosen)... Just another example of a monumental shocker of a decision that manufacturers make sometimes!
The run of Pumas was more than double the original plan. The tooling was falling apart in the end and many cars were finished by hand.

The Puma was also based on an outgoing chassis, but don't let facts get in the way of a convenient story.

y2blade

56,177 posts

217 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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PumpkinSteve said:
johnpeat said:
That KA was broken then - because whilst it's not as snappy as the Puma's, KA's usually have a decent and precise gearbox (for a Ford, anyway).
It's quite possible, I just remember pushing the gearstick in the general direction of the gear and hoping for the best, it was very sloppy. The car had been owned by an old woman, maybe she had hammered the gearbox.
to Echo what John said
I had a KA for a while, the gearbox was very good actually...btw the KA handling was superb, only let down by the old rattly Engine



thetapeworm

11,397 posts

241 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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hora said:
Fitting a new ABS sensor- is it hard? It looks as simple as plug n play

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Ford_Puma_1.7_19...
The hardest bit is getting the old one out and not snapping any of the old bolts - wheel and brake disc off is about as complex as it gets otherwise.

jellison

12,803 posts

279 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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Good choice Riggers.

I drive my wifes pretty much most days and a Puma even in std form is Mega fun and in the bends will spank most things alot faster (on paper).

Few tweaks and it is bloody brilliant.

300mm Front ST170 discs and Mondeo calipers (as brakes are the only real crap bit on a Puma), and a set of 30mm Eibach lower springs (have the std setting put back on after fitted or tyres will wear out FAST). All easy to do and it is so much fun. All that huge power stuff just mean points, but fun in the twisties is the best fun smile

In Surrey too if you need any advise.

Root Ginger

37 posts

221 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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B'stard Child said:
Nothing more than a fiesta in a fancy frock....
It's a Ka underneath not a Fiesta. They even have the same dashboard, seats etc.

Six Fiend

6,067 posts

217 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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Root Ginger said:
B'stard Child said:
Nothing more than a fiesta in a fancy frock....
It's a Ka underneath not a Fiesta. They even have the same dashboard, seats etc.
Mk4 Fiesta not Ka.

I drove an FRP for a while. Utterly brilliant fun smile

y2blade

56,177 posts

217 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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Root Ginger said:
B'stard Child said:
Nothing more than a fiesta in a fancy frock....
It's a Ka underneath not a Fiesta. They even have the same dashboard, seats etc.
no it isn't

Chapppers

4,483 posts

193 months

Monday 18th July 2011
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Definitely not a KA. I believe you can actually swap a lot of Puma and Fiesta MK4 parts very easily, I've even seen a Fiesta MK4 with a Puma front on it.

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Edited by Chapppers on Monday 18th July 12:51