Brand new A3 breaks down... Dealer then goes Golfing in it..

Brand new A3 breaks down... Dealer then goes Golfing in it..

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iphonedyou

9,283 posts

159 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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djt100 said:
+1, I'd be going nuts and want the car replaced, no telling how it has been used whilst not in your possesion
Nope, I can't do it. I've drafted three responses, and not one of them adequately describes how ridiculous your stance is. I only hope for your sake you never leave your car with anybody unattended - tyre fitters, valet boys, anywhere really - as you'd surely require a new car, just in case - after all, there's no telling what damage they could do reversing your car in tight circles while bouncing off the limiter and hand braking, is there?

While my argument might sound silly, I believe it holds weight. You simply cannot demand recompense for damage that may or may not have occurred, especially where there is absolutely no claim by the customer that any damage has been caused to the engine at all. Where would that possibly end?

Edited by iphonedyou on Tuesday 23 August 16:54

Deva Link

26,934 posts

247 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
What do you expect

Dealerships employ just above minimum wage halfwits...
Allegedly this was the Service Manager and that can be a very well paid job.

1bhp

156 posts

178 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Which audi dealer was this? my brother in law works for an Audi dealership i pointed him to this thread but hes not heard from any of his work work college's about which dealer did this but they are all desperate to find out who it was ( seems to be some friendly banter rivalry with other dealerships)

Garlick

40,601 posts

242 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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1bhp said:
Which audi dealer was this? my brother in law works for an Audi dealership i pointed him to this thread but hes not heard from any of his work work college's about which dealer did this but they are all desperate to find out who it was ( seems to be some friendly banter rivalry with other dealerships)
But let's not name them as that would break our N&S rules smile

Gad-Westy

14,675 posts

215 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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J4CKO said:
Funy how the uproar is becasue the dealer bod used their car as personal transport but nobody mentioned a brand new premium car that wont start on a regular basis !
The odd fault is always a possibility no matter how 'premium' the price tag. I'm sure if the issue had been fixed quickly with minimal hassle we wouldn't be talking about it. It happens, that's life.

The two more obvious issues are that it took two weeks to diagnose what sounds like a pretty simple problem and seemingly in the meantime the car was being used to ferry budding Nick Faldo's to their pitch and putt of choice.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

56 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Garlick said:
1bhp said:
Which audi dealer was this? my brother in law works for an Audi dealership i pointed him to this thread but hes not heard from any of his work work college's about which dealer did this but they are all desperate to find out who it was ( seems to be some friendly banter rivalry with other dealerships)
But let's not name them as that would break our N&S rules smile
I specifically refrained from giving any information in the original post that could identify the dealer as I don't want to engage in any form of name and shame as per the rules.

Plus it wouldn't be fair on the dealer until they got the opportunity to rectify things smile

Although I can see why it would provoke amusement and ridicule amongst the Audi network wink

Jayho

2,046 posts

172 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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There's one thing bothering me when reading through these 10 pages. OK, the dealer has done enough (probably a few other FOC things wouldn't be too bad) to rectify and apologize. The apology is the most important part.

But no-one else feel that in a situation like this would be like putting on your shoe after someone else has been in it? Just something a bit uncomfortable? Its probably a little bit of OCD, but I'd feel very uncomfortable every time I get into my car after learning of this mishap.

Thesaint01708

935 posts

159 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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being fairly new to the main dealer car trade (7 months in now) i must say that i have witnessed the mentality of 'cars are just lumps of metal' as some see them as nothing more than a commodity.

this is thankfully not widespread and its certainly not my outlook, but then again i respect other peoples property; no matter if its something i have sold them or something they have lent me.

The practice of using customer cars for personal use is normally always reserved for fault finding and as such cars should be cleaned/put back to how they were found before returning them to the customer.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

247 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Jayho said:
But no-one else feel that in a situation like this would be like putting on your shoe after someone else has been in it? Just something a bit uncomfortable? Its probably a little bit of OCD, but I'd feel very uncomfortable every time I get into my car after learning of this mishap.
Even with a brand-new car, a fair number of people will have driven it, mostly quite aggressively, before you get it.

Don't ever watch a car being loaded on to a transporter!

Jayho

2,046 posts

172 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Deva Link said:
Jayho said:
But no-one else feel that in a situation like this would be like putting on your shoe after someone else has been in it? Just something a bit uncomfortable? Its probably a little bit of OCD, but I'd feel very uncomfortable every time I get into my car after learning of this mishap.
Even with a brand-new car, a fair number of people will have driven it, mostly quite aggressively, before you get it.

Don't ever watch a car being loaded on to a transporter!
Yeah but thats just saying that a pair of shoes would be tried on by someone else by someone else before you buy it. Its the fact that it now belongs to yourself and you are used to a car which belongs to you, but now its been violated by someone else. Its the idea that its violated!

KennyGT

758 posts

212 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Take the keys to the A3, go back to the dealer, slam the keys down in front of the sales people, ask for money back.

Or something along those lines. TBH I would not spend that amount of money on an A3.

tonywilliams

214 posts

204 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Deva Link said:
Jayho said:
But no-one else feel that in a situation like this would be like putting on your shoe after someone else has been in it? Just something a bit uncomfortable? Its probably a little bit of OCD, but I'd feel very uncomfortable every time I get into my car after learning of this mishap.
Even with a brand-new car, a fair number of people will have driven it, mostly quite aggressively, before you get it.

Don't ever watch a car being loaded on to a transporter!
Yes others will have driven it but thats before you take delivery of the car, before it's actually your car. I agree with Jayho that it don't feel the same (from previous experiance) when they do it to the car you own, your P&J.

Personally I feel a little more should have been done to appologise for the condition her Audi was returned in.

Thesaint01708

935 posts

159 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Deva Link said:
Don't ever watch a car being loaded on to a transporter!
hehe

Strachan

6,419 posts

156 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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robsti said:
Well they are doing it with yours! rofl
No, they are not rofl

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

169 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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IIRC a bloke in Maldon sent his 911 to have some tyres changed. They didn;t have the tyres so kept it there while they were ordered. Tyre monkeys decided to do a little test drive killing a little lad that was walking along side the road.


tonywilliams

214 posts

204 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Willy Nilly said:
IIRC a bloke in Maldon sent his 911 to have some tyres changed. They didn;t have the tyres so kept it there while they were ordered. Tyre monkeys decided to do a little test drive killing a little lad that was walking along side the road.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348989/Ryan-Fleming-8-killed-Kwik-Fit-workers-taking-customers-Porsche-spin.html

Thesaint01708

935 posts

159 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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tonywilliams said:
Willy Nilly said:
IIRC a bloke in Maldon sent his 911 to have some tyres changed. They didn;t have the tyres so kept it there while they were ordered. Tyre monkeys decided to do a little test drive killing a little lad that was walking along side the road.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1348989/Ry...
fixed that for you smile

Vron

2,532 posts

211 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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OPC had my 996 a couple of years ago - came back next day with 70 miles extra and 1/4 tank of fuel missing.

Long story short they denied everything.

I got the dealer principal involved who said the car had needed an 'extended' test drive.

Coincidentally the service manager lived 35 miles away.

I got a 15% off the next service agreed that I made them put in writing. Waited till the major service before using it. Went to pay and said 'don't forget my 15% off' to which all knowledge was denied. Fortunately I had taken the letter with me so they had to do a massive U turn. If I hadn't made them put it in writing I would have been stuffed.

Ian974

2,957 posts

201 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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I'm yet another person who is amazed that a supposedly high quality car needs its seat backs replaced after a golf trip along with the prior starting issues.
Well, I would be amazed, but after the recent shambles which is another PHers polo GTI DSG 'box freezing up you've got to wonder what VAG are trying to do with their reputation for well built cars...

Dog Star

16,180 posts

170 months

Tuesday 23rd August 2011
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Garlick said:
No i'm not.

I'm saying that I have seen it happen myself (caveat - they asked permission).

Do I think it deserves a free new car? No. Do I think the OP should appoint a lawyer to seek compensation? No. Do I think the outcome is fair and satisfactory? Yes.

I might have pushed for a free service, but (perhaps I am biased thanks to my earlier experience at a dealer) I think many on here are blowing it out of reasonable proportion. He didn't even play 18 holes FFS.....
This. Personally I'd go for a free service - but that's fair and adequete.
It's "I want my compo" culture at it's worst being demonstrated by some people here - and I'll bet 9/10 of the same people will start foaming at the mouth when people throw whiplash claims into accident claims. Recompense should be appropriate.