RE: Bentley Bentayga - official

RE: Bentley Bentayga - official

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torchy6

133 posts

173 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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What is the matter with you guys? This is very handsome and by far the best looking of the modern large SUV's. I will be buying one, the only things I am not fond of are the name and the wheels.

Lester H

2,772 posts

106 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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Come on! All makers have to have an SUV these days - niche marketing Gone mad - but only just seen it in Autocar
It looks fine and surely the interior will be fabulous. W.O. Just moving with the times. after all, they offered dozens of variants in the 30s, depending on the coach builder.

KTF

9,840 posts

151 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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Lester H said:
It looks fine.
You are joking, right?

It's not Bentley making a SUV that people don't like, it's that it has a face like a smacked arse.

Edited by KTF on Thursday 10th September 21:08

sealtt

3,091 posts

159 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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turbobungle said:
That's just hideous. Can't believe Bentley have come up with that as their best effort. The guys that made mine would be turning in their graves if they saw that!

Now that is more like it!! Great to see.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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torchy6 said:
What is the matter with you guys? This is very handsome and by far the best looking of the modern large SUV's. I will be buying one, the only things I am not fond of are the name and the wheels.
Should have gone to...

Lester H

2,772 posts

106 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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Fair play to negative posts re. Bentley SUV which most of us have yet to see in the metal, my claim that it looked OK was made in comparison to the SUV norm! Horses for courses, and the horsey set will love it. might even buy my old Landcruiser back!

slider2

135 posts

255 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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Jumping Jehosephat! That's abominable.
Pity the L322 isn't still made. Far prettier if an SUV is needed. Imo

DonkeyApple

55,856 posts

170 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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sealtt said:
J4CKO said:
That was kind of my point, rather than casting aspersions on the collective PH buying power, I think the folk with money to buy stuff like this mix in entirely different circles, mostly not UK based, I am sure it will sell over here but most will go abroad where restraint is perhaps in shorter supply.

If everyone has stuff like that then it doesn't perhaps seem so huge and flash ?

I live in Cheshire so will see them soon.
I don't think the problem is that it's too huge & flashy - look how many thousands of brand new £100k Range Rovers with all the trimmings are on our roads. I think the problem is that it just looks like a slightly fancier Q7, from the outside anyway. And I don't think a big paycheque in your pocket makes that any more of an exciting proposition than it does to most other people.

I'd expect a lot of FFRR owners watched this with interest, as until now for a luxury 4x4 there was no real competitor, however the design is such a flop it's far more likely to attract VAG customers, say your Cayenne Turbo owner or a Q7 owner who recently got that big promotion, etc. The odd RR Sport owner may defect, however I can't imagine many from FFRRs doing so - and that is the demographic who clearly want the luxury 4X4 experience and who also have the means to buy one of these things.
That is probably quite an important element. Obviously, JLR are also not immune from platform sharing, afterall their cheaper SUV products are built up from a Ford platform. But, when you spend £100k+ on your Rangie you are buying something that has been built specifically from the ground up for this product. When you spend £200k on the Bentley you are not. You are buying the absolute pinnacle of the SUV market and yet, underneath it is a cheap, generic, mass produced platform from a company that doesn't have any brand value or heritage connections at all. Given that historically it used to be Bentley that supplied rolling chassis to coach builders it becomes even more poignant.

However, I think we all understand enough about the modern world to appreciate that outside of us types this isn't an issue of any great concern. We are all focusses as a society on the concept of Bella Figura. So long as it looks good on the outside what it is under the skin has no relevance.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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slider2 said:
Jumping Jehosephat! That's abominable.
Pity the L322 isn't still made. Far prettier if an SUV is needed. Imo
Agreed. Although the L322 was a bit of a shock to the senses initially, and again after the facelift, the subsequent L405 and now the Bentayga have only served to reinforce what a good design it was from the start.

turbobungle

574 posts

225 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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sealtt said:
Now that is more like it!! Great to see.
It's going up for sale as need funds for an E-Type if you're interested!! ;-)

maseratimark

5 posts

111 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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I feel ashamed for the human race when flying your pretty wife, in her cashmere shawl, separately by aeroplane, whilst transporting your two perfect kids by a humongous SUV is considered to be a lifestyle we should aspire to. Bentley seems to conveniently forget that the picturese scenery they set the commercial in will disappear should we all adopt this aspirational and quite frankly selfish lifestyle.

Oh I forget, just like their customers, they don’t give a dame, because they can afford to wreck the planet, as their wealth will protect them from having to suffer the worst of the consequences that will engulf poor people in the developing world.

DonkeyApple

55,856 posts

170 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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maseratimark said:
I feel ashamed for the human race when flying your pretty wife, in her cashmere shawl, separately by aeroplane, whilst transporting your two perfect kids by a humongous SUV is considered to be a lifestyle we should aspire to. Bentley seems to conveniently forget that the picturese scenery they set the commercial in will disappear should we all adopt this aspirational and quite frankly selfish lifestyle.

Oh I forget, just like their customers, they don’t give a dame, because they can afford to wreck the planet, as their wealth will protect them from having to suffer the worst of the consequences that will engulf poor people in the developing world.
You tell 'em, princess.

KTF

9,840 posts

151 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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maseratimark said:
I feel ashamed for the human race when flying your pretty wife, in her cashmere shawl, separately by aeroplane, whilst transporting your two perfect kids by a humongous SUV is considered to be a lifestyle we should aspire to. Bentley seems to conveniently forget that the picturese scenery they set the commercial in will disappear should we all adopt this aspirational and quite frankly selfish lifestyle.

Oh I forget, just like their customers, they don’t give a dame, because they can afford to wreck the planet, as their wealth will protect them from having to suffer the worst of the consequences that will engulf poor people in the developing world.

turbobungle

574 posts

225 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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maseratimark said:
I feel ashamed for the human race when flying your pretty wife, in her cashmere shawl, separately by aeroplane, whilst transporting your two perfect kids by a humongous SUV is considered to be a lifestyle we should aspire to. Bentley seems to conveniently forget that the picturese scenery they set the commercial in will disappear should we all adopt this aspirational and quite frankly selfish lifestyle.

Oh I forget, just like their customers, they don’t give a dame, because they can afford to wreck the planet, as their wealth will protect them from having to suffer the worst of the consequences that will engulf poor people in the developing world.
Hey maseratimark, which Maserati do you drive? Is it the eco-Maserati? Oh no, they don't make one. Maybe you should become Priusmark before getting all high and mighty about the planet?

monoloco

289 posts

193 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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just goes to show that money can buy you everything except taste! I'm sure they'll sell well in China, Dubai and Russia but personally I wouldn't be seen dead in one -although I guess in black it would make a passable hearse!

herebebeasties

675 posts

220 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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Can't believe no one else has noticed that there isn't a single shot of this actually off-road anywhere. The photos in the article have the "off-road" shots with the car very clearly photoshopped in, and the video only goes so far as taking it down a high-quality gravel track. I've been down more adventurous things in my Elise.

DonkeyApple

55,856 posts

170 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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herebebeasties said:
Can't believe no one else has noticed that there isn't a single shot of this actually off-road anywhere. The photos in the article have the "off-road" shots with the car very clearly photoshopped in, and the video only goes so far as taking it down a high-quality gravel track. I've been down more adventurous things in my Elise.
But let's be sensible here, these types of SUV have grown out of the saloon and estate market rather than the original offroad market. They will never go offroad, no one will ever buy one to go offroad and they are bought as alternatives to big saloons etc.

The offroad market has remained as it was and is still a very niche sector as few people actually need to go offroad as almost all domestic properties are linked to work and ahopping enviroent a by roads.

What I don't get is why any of the makers of luxury, onroad SUVs even mention going offroad as we all recognised this as superfluous over a decade ago.

NomduJour

19,176 posts

260 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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If a Range Rover or Discovery had no off-road ability, or couldn't tow 3.5 tonnes, it would be useless to a lot of people (including me). They're not all fashion accessories.

DonkeyApple

55,856 posts

170 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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NomduJour said:
If a Range Rover or Discovery had no off-road ability, or couldn't tow 3.5 tonnes, it would be useless to a lot of people (including me). They're not all fashion accessories.
Indeed. It's the only product that straddles what are two very clearly defined car sectors, high position onroad cars and high position offroad cars.

I can't think of another product that genuinely sits between the two.

As can be clearly seen, the majority of people who want the benefit of sitting higher up want this within an onroad package of which this Bentley is currently about to be at the pinnacle of.

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Friday 11th September 2015
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Scuse me, caring for the environment and being a car enthusiast are not incompatible. Just because you can drive a three-ton 12-cylinder SUV for the school-run and run a helicopter, bizjet etc for any journey over 30 miles or so doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea...