Most tasteless new car on sale

[Silvanus]

911hope said:

We are seeking the MOST tasteless cars for sale.

Not liking BMW's grille etc doesn't really cut it. These are just not good looking cars.

maybe its ugly and tasteless not in the same league as that mint green Bentley though

[Court_S]

judas said:

sam.rog said:

This turd.

Saw one of these in the flesh for the first time this weekend. Dear Lord, gopping doesn’t do it justice - it really is monstrously bad

They’re hideous, and manage to look far worse in the flesh. They’re massive too.

[The_Doc]

with this from the Contents Page



both from The Road Rat issue 10. now just superseded by issue 11 which arrived this morning.

Edited by The_Doc on Wednesday 17th August 16:41

[biggbn]

The_Doc said:

with this from the Contents Page



both from The Road Rat issue 10. now just superseded by issue 11 which arrived this morning.

Edited by The_Doc on Wednesday 17th August 16:41

Do you rate Bayley? I used to really enjoy reading his work but stopped a good few years ago as I felt he got really pretentious, and not in a self effacing way. I might revisit him now.

[Stick Legs]

Silvanus said:

GT9 said:

Megaflow said:

BS62 said:

Megaflow said:

sam.rog said:

This turd.


Mercedes are king of interior chintz.

I saw one of those out the wild the other day and discovered that the awful grill, isn’t even actually a grill, purely there for ‘styling’.

No it isn't, it's a sensor panel with some pretty cool features. Slate it for being ugly to your eyes, but don't talk bks.

But it isn’t a grill is it, so why style it like a grill? Therefore it has been styled to look like a grill.

If they didn’t want it to look like a grill they’d have the sensor behind the bumper or something.

Don’t say something is hillocks just because you like a car most people cannot stand.

Personally I like the fact that BMW are not afraid to challenge this preconceived idea of how cars 'must' look.

If that's not for you then VAG will no doubt have something up your street.

And do you really think they were going to give up having some form of kidney grille, the single most identifiable feature of a BMW?

I think the point is it isn't a grille is it. If a draw a grille and stick it on my car its not a grille, just something that looks like one.
Agree though that no way will they will bmw ever ditch the kidney shape, but on an electric car I can only think that there could be cleverer ways to use it than a sensor panel made to look like massive plastic grille.

This has a lot more clever sensors than a BMW but manages to place them behind body coloured RF transparent material.

BMW’s ‘sensor array grille’ excuse is rubbish.

The cars are ugly.

They lost the plot styling wise after the F- series cars and now they have lost the visual cues that made BMW look good.

They don’t even use the Ultimate Driving Machine tag anymore.

It’s almost as if they are in some kind of dare to see how ugly a car they can sell.

New cars, EV’s, technologically advanced cars don’t need to look outlandish.
Just proportion things well, use light & line cleverly.

For fans of ‘Zoolander’ car design is having a ‘Derelicte’ moment and the end of the ICE engine era will be viewed as the ‘Malaise Era’ of US cars was from the mid 1970’s.

[NomduJour]

biggbn said:

Do you rate Bayley? I used to really enjoy reading his work but stopped a good few years ago as I felt he got really pretentious, and not in a self effacing way

Think it goes with the territory (although the copy of In Good Shape on “long-term loan” from the school library is probably why I’ve read quite a bit of his stuff).

[biggbn]

NomduJour said:

biggbn said:

Do you rate Bayley? I used to really enjoy reading his work but stopped a good few years ago as I felt he got really pretentious, and not in a self effacing way

Think it goes with the territory (although the copy of In Good Shape on “long-term loan” from the school library is probably why I’ve read quite a bit of his stuff).

Will give it a look, I struggle with others being an arbiter of taste and aesthetics as our own lived environments will always give any design a gestalt of our own, and that may not be the same as the original designer's. Lyotard suggested all art has a dormant energy that is only ignited when it is viewed/read, whatever. I like that idea as it gives said viewer or consumer the power.

[nickfrog]

The_Doc said:

with this from the Contents Page



both from The Road Rat issue 10. now just superseded by issue 11 which arrived this morning.

Edited by The_Doc on Wednesday 17th August 16:41

Bailey would fit right in here. He doesn't even understand that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[Jaguar steve]

biggbn said:

We like what we like unless, as I think you are alluding to, we are foolish enough to be convinced we like something by shiny ads and peer pressure.

Who, me?

I'd never even begin to suspect there might be people sufficiently vain and stylish and vacuous and shallow enough for that to happen...

[biggbn]

Jaguar steve said:

biggbn said:

We like what we like unless, as I think you are alluding to, we are foolish enough to be convinced we like something by shiny ads and peer pressure.

Who, me?

I'd never even begin to suspect there might be people sufficiently vain and stylish and vacuous and shallow enough for that to happen...

[Nickbrapp]

Draxindustries1 said:

The Transit is imo a perfect machine. Superb to drive, perfect 6 speed gearbox , hill assist light clutch, nice roomy interior, and steers better than many cars. Our Transit (2.2 190hp , 370lb ft ) is pretty quick and brilliant on long runs. It's the kind of van you can do many hundreds of miles in without aches and pains .
We've done a dozen euro runs as far as Greece ( 130kph in top at 2000pm )in ours and really can't find any other van I'd want to change it for. We used to have a 2.4 pd Transporter but the Transit wipes the floor with the VW, it even uses the same basic bodyshell from 1996.
Ref the MRST other colours like the met orange suit it far better than the blue..

I drive a transit custom every day, and it is a decent drive, although mine has a woeful auto box that a transporter DSG box will run rings around, but it’s a good van, however, the MRST which I was specifically referring too is tragic and more tasteless than the line at a covid testing centre

[The_Doc]

nickfrog said:

Bailey would fit right in here. He doesn't even understand that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I'm not sure.

The article is good prose and a good dissection of the problem, I think. I like most of the stuff in the RRat.

[nickfrog]

The_Doc said:

I'm not sure.

The article is good prose and a good dissection of the problem, I think. I like most of the stuff in the RRat.

It sounds like a ridiculous binary analisys of ugly/beautiful. It's all subjective, isn't it? Loads of shades of grey and very personal. Arbitrarily decreeing that something is ugly is quite silly but also very PH like.

[biggbn]

nickfrog said:

The_Doc said:

I'm not sure.

The article is good prose and a good dissection of the problem, I think. I like most of the stuff in the RRat.

It sounds like a ridiculous binary analisys of ugly/beautiful. It's all subjective, isn't it? Loads of shades of grey and very personal. Arbitrarily decreeing that something is ugly is quite silly but also very PH like.

I now think he recycles articles somewhat as I'm sure I have read similar from him in the past!

[911hope]

Does ugly correlate with tasteless?

[Silvanus]

911hope said:

Does ugly correlate with tasteless?

Tasteless could be something ugly, but ugly isn't itself tasteless. I'm trying to think of a good looking car that's tasteless though? I think tasteless and vulgar often go hand in hand.

[yakka]

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Why do I see this and think of Home Bargains?

[robemcdonald]

Silvanus said:

911hope said:

Does ugly correlate with tasteless?

Tasteless could be something ugly, but ugly isn't itself tasteless. I'm trying to think of a good looking car that's tasteless though? I think tasteless and vulgar often go hand in hand.

Ugly but tasteful…

[Silvanus]

robemcdonald said:

Silvanus said:

911hope said:

Does ugly correlate with tasteless?

Tasteless could be something ugly, but ugly isn't itself tasteless. I'm trying to think of a good looking car that's tasteless though? I think tasteless and vulgar often go hand in hand.

Ugly but tasteful…

I very nearly mentioned that, I wondered if anyone else would. God I'd love one

[robemcdonald]

Silvanus said:

robemcdonald said:

Silvanus said:

911hope said:

Does ugly correlate with tasteless?

Tasteless could be something ugly, but ugly isn't itself tasteless. I'm trying to think of a good looking car that's tasteless though? I think tasteless and vulgar often go hand in hand.

Ugly but tasteful…

I very nearly mentioned that, I wondered if anyone else would. God I'd love one

Simply lovely and I’m prepared to die on that particular bridge.