RE: Nissan GTR
Discussion
Dirty Monkey said:
c_jhoward said:
....for styling and class it's absolutely nowhere near a Porsche Turbo. They'll never get that bit right.
The "class" bit is all in the head of stuck up snobs...not even nissan can change that...unfortunatelly 
1. You can't buy "class".
2. This car, judging by the rave reviews it is receiving, would appear to be outperforming the 911 turbo.
3. Who cares if the GT2 is better, it costs twice as much. The mere fact that it's even being compared would indicate the calibre of this cars performance.
4. There is a lighter version in development.
5. Reagarding the lap time, there is a full lap analysis by an engineer available online:
http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/87769-nissan-gt-...
6. I would really like to own this car
I'm not really into Jap cars, but this seems like one awesone piece if machinery.
Looks good, the interior seems less plastic than usual, and the performance is shattering.
Is 3.5 secs to 60 the official figure then? That's quicker than a Mclaren SLR!
And for the price of a well-specced Audi RS4, you just can't go wrong!
Looks good, the interior seems less plastic than usual, and the performance is shattering.
Is 3.5 secs to 60 the official figure then? That's quicker than a Mclaren SLR!
And for the price of a well-specced Audi RS4, you just can't go wrong!
pSyCoSiS said:
I'm not really into Jap cars, but this seems like one awesone piece if machinery.
Looks good, the interior seems less plastic than usual, and the performance is shattering.
Is 3.5 secs to 60 the official figure then? That's quicker than a Mclaren SLR!
And for the price of a well-specced Audi RS4, you just can't go wrong!
Anybody with sense would go for the uber quality RS4 or similar if Nissan are stupid enough to try and inflate £33k to over £40k - however at £36 - 39k it would be tempting..Looks good, the interior seems less plastic than usual, and the performance is shattering.
Is 3.5 secs to 60 the official figure then? That's quicker than a Mclaren SLR!
And for the price of a well-specced Audi RS4, you just can't go wrong!
Lone Granger said:
pSyCoSiS said:
I'm not really into Jap cars, but this seems like one awesone piece if machinery.
Looks good, the interior seems less plastic than usual, and the performance is shattering.
Is 3.5 secs to 60 the official figure then? That's quicker than a Mclaren SLR!
And for the price of a well-specced Audi RS4, you just can't go wrong!
Anybody with sense would go for the uber quality RS4 or similar if Nissan are stupid enough to try and inflate £33k to over £40k - however at £36 - 39k it would be tempting..Looks good, the interior seems less plastic than usual, and the performance is shattering.
Is 3.5 secs to 60 the official figure then? That's quicker than a Mclaren SLR!
And for the price of a well-specced Audi RS4, you just can't go wrong!
Also, in terms of performance, isn't a patch on the GT-R!
But yeh, the pricing takes the p1ss....
Mannginger said:
pSyCoSiS said:
But yeh, the pricing takes the p1ss....
Hmm not sure I feel that way, this is allegedly a 997 Turbo beater for half the price - not that much of a pee taker IMO.Phil
Short of a huge lottery win, there is no way I would pay double cost, just because the importer felt he could rip me off...!
There is no way the GTR will do half of its purchase price in depreciation within 1 year. Sorry, no what what so ever!
Nissan Japan already have more than 2500 orders and will only be producing 'hundreds' per month. Plus early ones in Japan are already selling for way over list price.
Think 997 GT3 RS, if you can get into a GTR then you have, at least, a year of free motoring IMO.
Nissan Japan already have more than 2500 orders and will only be producing 'hundreds' per month. Plus early ones in Japan are already selling for way over list price.
Think 997 GT3 RS, if you can get into a GTR then you have, at least, a year of free motoring IMO.
I agree DaveR. Look at the R8, the first new shape minis that came out and caymens. People were owning them a year and getting more than they paid for them!. Simple economics of demand out stripping supply therefor high residuals and exclusivity.
I would just like to see one manufacturer go against the wind and make a car such as the GT-R available in large numbers at an affordable price. I think it would really put the frights up some of the big car producers.
Do car manufacturers really care if they make £20000 profit per car on 1000 vehicles or £10000 per car on 2000 vehicles. At the end of the day they make the same amount and we get a great piece of kit to rip the countryside up with!.
I would just like to see one manufacturer go against the wind and make a car such as the GT-R available in large numbers at an affordable price. I think it would really put the frights up some of the big car producers.
Do car manufacturers really care if they make £20000 profit per car on 1000 vehicles or £10000 per car on 2000 vehicles. At the end of the day they make the same amount and we get a great piece of kit to rip the countryside up with!.
Tuning has already begun:
Hot 200mph modified Nissan GT-R - first pics
Although power figures have not been released, the standard twin-turbo V6 in the Nissan GT-R produces 473bhp 11 December 2007
by Vijay Pattni
Click here for more pictures of the Mines Nissan GT-R
Just weeks after its launch, a top tuner has built this stonking modified Nissan GT-R.
Japanese tuner Mines has taken the standard 198mph Nissan GT-R and upgraded the car’s computer, air-filter, exhaust, and also fitted a new suspension and brake package.
And these modifications have helped Nissan’s new supercar lap the Japanese Tsukuba circuit in just 1m 3.1s – five-tenths of a second quicker than a Lamborghini Gallardo.
Although power figures have not been released, the standard twin-turbo V6 in the Nissan GT-R produces 473bhp – 70bhp more than a BMW M3. We’d expect the Mines-tuned car to top 500bhp – and 200mph.
Mines has added a new air scoop, carbon-fibre mirrors and carbon fins on the front spoiler to improve aerodynamics, as seen in these pictures from gtchannel.com.
Although the R35 GTR lapped Tsukuba in 1m 3.1s, the tuners were having problems with the car’s traction control on the day, and reckon they could push for a faster time.
Another obstacle affecting the tuner was the setup of the new Nissan GT-R. Nissan has made the super-coupe tricky to modify by aftermarket tuners.
Building on a history of working with Nissan’s sports coupes, Mines modified an earlier Nissan Skyline model which lapped the Tsukuba circuit in just 57.7s.
The new Nissan GT-R was released in Japan at the end of last month and was received with acclaim.
And early roadtests have commended the car’s composure, engine and handling. It is set to arrive on British shores in March 2009, with an expected price tag of around £60,000.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/CARS/news/NI...
Hot 200mph modified Nissan GT-R - first pics
Although power figures have not been released, the standard twin-turbo V6 in the Nissan GT-R produces 473bhp 11 December 2007
by Vijay Pattni
Click here for more pictures of the Mines Nissan GT-R
Just weeks after its launch, a top tuner has built this stonking modified Nissan GT-R.
Japanese tuner Mines has taken the standard 198mph Nissan GT-R and upgraded the car’s computer, air-filter, exhaust, and also fitted a new suspension and brake package.
And these modifications have helped Nissan’s new supercar lap the Japanese Tsukuba circuit in just 1m 3.1s – five-tenths of a second quicker than a Lamborghini Gallardo.
Although power figures have not been released, the standard twin-turbo V6 in the Nissan GT-R produces 473bhp – 70bhp more than a BMW M3. We’d expect the Mines-tuned car to top 500bhp – and 200mph.
Mines has added a new air scoop, carbon-fibre mirrors and carbon fins on the front spoiler to improve aerodynamics, as seen in these pictures from gtchannel.com.
Although the R35 GTR lapped Tsukuba in 1m 3.1s, the tuners were having problems with the car’s traction control on the day, and reckon they could push for a faster time.
Another obstacle affecting the tuner was the setup of the new Nissan GT-R. Nissan has made the super-coupe tricky to modify by aftermarket tuners.
Building on a history of working with Nissan’s sports coupes, Mines modified an earlier Nissan Skyline model which lapped the Tsukuba circuit in just 57.7s.
The new Nissan GT-R was released in Japan at the end of last month and was received with acclaim.
And early roadtests have commended the car’s composure, engine and handling. It is set to arrive on British shores in March 2009, with an expected price tag of around £60,000.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/CARS/news/NI...
_daveR said:
There is no way the GTR will do half of its purchase price in depreciation within 1 year. Sorry, no what what so ever!
Nissan Japan already have more than 2500 orders and will only be producing 'hundreds' per month. Plus early ones in Japan are already selling for way over list price.
Think 997 GT3 RS, if you can get into a GTR then you have, at least, a year of free motoring IMO.
Quote: 'the depreciation would bite you right back, the moment innitial desire wains. - It would half its £60k cost within the year' -Nissan Japan already have more than 2500 orders and will only be producing 'hundreds' per month. Plus early ones in Japan are already selling for way over list price.
Think 997 GT3 RS, if you can get into a GTR then you have, at least, a year of free motoring IMO.
You misunderstood the comment (albeit slightly argumentitive!) - 1 year after innitial desire wains not first year when speculation due to demand over supply is rife - yes i am sure the 1st yr could well be 'free' if bought at the right price -
quattrophenia said:
I agree DaveR. Look at the R8, the first new shape minis that came out and caymens. People were owning them a year and getting more than they paid for them!. Simple economics of demand out stripping supply therefor high residuals and exclusivity.
I would just like to see one manufacturer go against the wind and make a car such as the GT-R available in large numbers at an affordable price. I think it would really put the frights up some of the big car producers.
Do car manufacturers really care if they make £20000 profit per car on 1000 vehicles or £10000 per car on 2000 vehicles. At the end of the day they make the same amount and we get a great piece of kit to rip the countryside up with!.
Absobl**ylutely! - Frustration and competitiveness has taken over in modern 'civilisation'.....I would just like to see one manufacturer go against the wind and make a car such as the GT-R available in large numbers at an affordable price. I think it would really put the frights up some of the big car producers.
Do car manufacturers really care if they make £20000 profit per car on 1000 vehicles or £10000 per car on 2000 vehicles. At the end of the day they make the same amount and we get a great piece of kit to rip the countryside up with!.
Lone Granger said:
you would have to have a lot more money than sense to pay double the true cost - for sure the depreciation would bite you right back, the moment innitial desire wains. - It would half its £60k cost within the year - if you have that sort of money to throw away - be my guest.
Given that you'll have difficulty tracking down a 2000 model year UK specification R34 Nissan Skyline GT-R for much less than £28,000 I doubt that depreciation is going to be a big issue. That's about 52% retained value after more than seven years.bad_roo said:
Lone Granger said:
you would have to have a lot more money than sense to pay double the true cost - for sure the depreciation would bite you right back, the moment innitial desire wains. - It would half its £60k cost within the year - if you have that sort of money to throw away - be my guest.
Given that you'll have difficulty tracking down a 2000 model year UK specification R34 Nissan Skyline GT-R for much less than £28,000 I doubt that depreciation is going to be a big issue. That's about 52% retained value after more than seven years.Watch the price drop when the model becomes 10 years old
Look at the price of the other Skylines??? GTST's were selling for £6k two years ago , you can buy a decent one for less than half that now straight off the boat its simply supply and demand
This model isn't exactly going to be plentiful either is it?
The UK spec R34 GT-R remains a very overvalued car but the GT-R badge has a cachet that the GT-T or GTS badges lack. You still see some very expensive UK R33s knocking around which seems even harder to justify given the glut of cheap import cars.
The UK spec R34 GT-R remains a very overvalued car but the GT-R badge has a cachet that the GT-T or GTS badges lack. You still see some very expensive UK R33s knocking around which seems even harder to justify given the glut of cheap import cars.
Lone Granger said:
Quote: 'the depreciation would bite you right back, the moment innitial desire wains. - It would half its £60k cost within the year' -
You misunderstood the comment (albeit slightly argumentitive!) - 1 year after innitial desire wains not first year when speculation due to demand over supply is rife - yes i am sure the 1st yr could well be 'free' if bought at the right price -
Ah, I see what you mean. Whilst I agree that, at that point, they would start to lose money I do not go with the 50% figure. A little, but not that much. You misunderstood the comment (albeit slightly argumentitive!) - 1 year after innitial desire wains not first year when speculation due to demand over supply is rife - yes i am sure the 1st yr could well be 'free' if bought at the right price -
As mentioned, the R34's still command high prices where as the R32/R33 versions do not anymore. This is down to the difficulty in getting them into the country. Now its coming up to 10 years old the prices will start to take a hit IMO.
Im curious to know how people intend to get imports registered. The mobile home method (or what ever it was!) doesn't work anymore IIRC so it's going to cost someone somewhere a lot of money!
Gazboy said:
You kind of expect Mine's to have tuned everything to buggery though.
After watching their R34 destroy everything bar a F3000 around Tsukuba it makes you wonder how fast their R35 is.
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=y9YEFEkAvJk
Did you watch that video till the end?After watching their R34 destroy everything bar a F3000 around Tsukuba it makes you wonder how fast their R35 is.
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=y9YEFEkAvJk
The skyline was totally embarrassed by an NSX towards the end. Made it look like it was standing still!!
blindswelledrat said:
Gazboy said:
You kind of expect Mine's to have tuned everything to buggery though.
After watching their R34 destroy everything bar a F3000 around Tsukuba it makes you wonder how fast their R35 is.
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=y9YEFEkAvJk
Did you watch that video till the end?After watching their R34 destroy everything bar a F3000 around Tsukuba it makes you wonder how fast their R35 is.
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=y9YEFEkAvJk
The skyline was totally embarrassed by an NSX towards the end. Made it look like it was standing still!!
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