Cyclist dies after collision
Discussion
Caulkhead said:
Imagine letting old people drive - how stupid can you get?
I think this gent, given his history, would be the first to hand his license in when he could no longer drive to a reasonable standard.We know how many numpties there are on the roads, but a lot of the older generation are the numpties of yesteryear. Imagine the idiots we have now and imagine what they'll be like in 30/40/50 years time.
Edited by lyonspride on Friday 23 September 11:56
Caulkhead said:
Imagine letting old people drive - how stupid can you get?
Your point is?Sir Stirling retired in the Summer from racing:
Stirling Moss said:
I have always said if I felt I was not up to it or I was getting in the way of competitors I would retire
He admits he was getting older, and shouldn't be racing - slightly different to road driving however, but he admits his age has impacted his ability. The Crack Fox said:
Some 90-something left his handbrake off on a hill and rolled backwards into our family bus. I got out. The old boy shouted "you were too close". I had to lean in and apply the handbrake to stop him doing more damage whilst my wife pushed his Corsa off our car. He had rolled 6 foot and not noticed. I noticed the whole car was covered in scrapes and dings. He then drove off, no apology, nothing.
I'm a pretty tolerant chap, I think, but I had a burning urge to throw his keys into the sea and save more people from his dangerous driving for good...
On the other hand, I was in a stationary queu the other evening, it started to move slowly, woman in front of me moved off, (as you do), then was fluffing around trying to find something and managed to clout the car in front of her. I agree the incident of the 90 odd something is shocking, but it's difficult to quantify the age thing with the incident, me thinks.I'm a pretty tolerant chap, I think, but I had a burning urge to throw his keys into the sea and save more people from his dangerous driving for good...
Certainly sounds like he had an attitude though.
My grandfather stopped driving a few years ago when he hit 100. He was involved in a cyclist collision in his late 90's and was given an award for his quick reactions saving the life of a boy who decided to ride across the road without looking.
As has been mentioned, don't tar all oldies with the same brush! I am not doubting that there are some dangerous old drivers, but we all know that there are plenty of people who shouldn't have licences, young and old.
As has been mentioned, don't tar all oldies with the same brush! I am not doubting that there are some dangerous old drivers, but we all know that there are plenty of people who shouldn't have licences, young and old.
hora said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-is...
Not on the report but the driver was a 93yr old.
93? Driving?
Pet peeve of mine, this.Not on the report but the driver was a 93yr old.
93? Driving?
You may be a young thruster now, mate, but wait until YOU are older and someone decides you should have yuor licence taken off you.
Sir Striling is pretty handy at 82. I know plenty of thick feral underclass 30 year olds who should have their licences revoked.
Having a licence should be inked to ability not age.
There was a fatal accident in Old Windsor last year of an 89 year old driver.
I don't know the circumstances of the accident, but the outcome was to slap a 30mph limit on the (totally straight) road, which was 40mph before, and put in some temporary traffic lights at the junction.
The result was that traffic queued back for miles and miles in rush hour.
Luckily they were removed a week later, but the speed limit remains.
I don't know the circumstances of the accident, but the outcome was to slap a 30mph limit on the (totally straight) road, which was 40mph before, and put in some temporary traffic lights at the junction.
The result was that traffic queued back for miles and miles in rush hour.
Luckily they were removed a week later, but the speed limit remains.
Soovy said:
Having a licence should be inked to ability not age.
Nobody disagrees with that.....But you can't tell me that Doris driving the wrong way down the local dual-carriageway has the ability. The only test they have to pass is a medical one..... It needs to be a proper formal driving test and possibly an observational/reactions test too.
But it'll never happen, we just keep sweeping the issue under a rug and blaming young drivers instead.
The oldest client that we insure here at work had his 99th Birthday last Saturday.
He still comes into the office every year to pay his premium and is more with it than some 60 year olds are.
He himself has said as soon as he thinks he should stop he will. Just for the record he has never had an accident and has a check up every year with his doctor.
He still comes into the office every year to pay his premium and is more with it than some 60 year olds are.
He himself has said as soon as he thinks he should stop he will. Just for the record he has never had an accident and has a check up every year with his doctor.
We need to stop being so politically correct in this country, of course you can be 93 years old and have the ability to be a perfectly safe driver but lets be realistic ffs. Anybody with common sense knows that old people generally have much poorer reaction times and observation skills than young people.Yes that is a generalization but generalization is a natural observation that should be used wisely,i am sure there are plenty of chavs that live on council estates that wont mug me if i walk past them but observations and generalizations tell me that i should maby walk on the opposite side of the road if i happen to see 10 chavs wearing hoodies gathered together at 11pm.political correctness say's that would be prejudice, i say that's a wise f
king move, i always give people the benefit of the doubt and that includes chavs but when it comes to safety or even life of death sorry but generalizations should be used very wisely.
king move, i always give people the benefit of the doubt and that includes chavs but when it comes to safety or even life of death sorry but generalizations should be used very wisely.B4rker said:
He himself has said as soon as he thinks he should stop he will. Just for the record he has never had an accident and has a check up every year with his doctor.
The flat I used to live in had a couple of elderly couples in the lower block. Really cool people well travelled and great company. One morning my lounge shook, one of the wives had driven straight into the supporting beams of the overhang under the main building. She didn't know what happened. Sorry but people need re-tests to make sure they are able. Not only does time reduce reactions road rules change, not to mention increased traffic volume requiring more not less concentration. Self certification isn't an option IMO.The accusation of "Generalisations" always seems to be thrown around with the intention of deflecting the original statement.
They know you can't be exact without picking on one individual, in which case it's victimisation and you can't generalise because they shoot you down, so the only choice is to brush it under a rug and wander off with your tail between your legs.
It's like that classic one line conversation ender.
They know you can't be exact without picking on one individual, in which case it's victimisation and you can't generalise because they shoot you down, so the only choice is to brush it under a rug and wander off with your tail between your legs.
It's like that classic one line conversation ender.
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