RE: Diesel-Electric Evo XI Confirmed
Discussion
Crow555 said:
Might be worth asking, does anyone know of any Evo VI - IX buying guides? I wouldn't mind reading up on these cars. Always admired the VI but never thought about owning one til now.
Honest John & Parkers both have their own reviews, both also have ownership reviews from actual owners of the cars.thewheelman said:
Crow555 said:
Might be worth asking, does anyone know of any Evo VI - IX buying guides? I wouldn't mind reading up on these cars. Always admired the VI but never thought about owning one til now.
Honest John & Parkers both have their own reviews, both also have ownership reviews from actual owners of the cars.Crow555 said:
Cheers mate, I'll give them a look.
Go to the Mitsubishi Lancer Register. Buying guides and everything you need to know. http://www.lancerregister.comI have owned a VI for a year now, welcome to ask me any questions.
I'm not sure what the problem is here?
If the headline was 'Next generation Mitsubishi Evo to be a tarmac scorching, sub-5sec 0-60 beast' then how may people would be worrying about the propulsion method that gets it there?
It's like saying Smirnoff is going to change all of their bottles to plastic, but you will still get p!55ed on it.
If the headline was 'Next generation Mitsubishi Evo to be a tarmac scorching, sub-5sec 0-60 beast' then how may people would be worrying about the propulsion method that gets it there?
It's like saying Smirnoff is going to change all of their bottles to plastic, but you will still get p!55ed on it.
Edited by cookie1600 on Wednesday 19th October 15:49
cookie1600 said:
I'm not sure what the problem is here?
If the headline was 'Next generation Mitsubishi Evo to be a tarmac scorching, sub-5sec 0-60 beast' then how may people would be worrying about the propulsion method that gets it there?
It like saying Smirnoff is going to change all of their bottles to plastic, but you will still get p!55ed on it.
Well one problem is that diesels sound and smell sIf the headline was 'Next generation Mitsubishi Evo to be a tarmac scorching, sub-5sec 0-60 beast' then how may people would be worrying about the propulsion method that gets it there?
It like saying Smirnoff is going to change all of their bottles to plastic, but you will still get p!55ed on it.
te.The Golf R manages close to that performance and matches their CO2 figure, but still has a 2 litre petrol. This is achievable without going derv. Let's face it, no-one from the old school Evo/STI/Integrale days is going to buy this, and neither are any diesel driving Merc/Audi/BMW owners so it's going to be about as popular as Mahmoud Ahmedinajad at a Bar Mitzvah.
Really stupid decision. Worse than Subaru's hatchback idea for the STI because it will alienate the US where diesel is even more frowned upon and Japan, where diesel seems to be the exclusive domain of commercial vehicles. I may be wrong, but I'm sure it's still illegal to drive a diesel vehicle in Tokyo?
Really stupid decision. Worse than Subaru's hatchback idea for the STI because it will alienate the US where diesel is even more frowned upon and Japan, where diesel seems to be the exclusive domain of commercial vehicles. I may be wrong, but I'm sure it's still illegal to drive a diesel vehicle in Tokyo?
Sounds like the making of a disaster. Mitsubishi have so much engineering clout and yet when faced with making a car that doesn't hit the top whack on tax and 15mpg they turn to the dark arts. A sad situation.
If VW can make a 270bhp 2.0 turbo with bunny-hugging emissions and a decent MPG figure why the hell can't anyone in Japan?!
If VW can make a 270bhp 2.0 turbo with bunny-hugging emissions and a decent MPG figure why the hell can't anyone in Japan?!
Anyone (like me) that runs a small-capacity, high-boost turbo petrol car cannot fail to be impressed by how quick a good diseasel is nowadays.
I run a 400+ bhp Fiat Coupe and there have been many occasions when an enthusiastically-driven beemer or Audi oil-burner has made me work hard to stay close, never mind get past. Show me a long straight and I'm gone, but punching out of slow corners is a definite TD strongpoint.
I can see why Mitsubishi would go down this route - they stand a chance of making a car that's easy to drive very quickly, while still returning half-decent mpg. Adding a slug of electric torque is going to make this into an amazing car to drive at the kind of speeds that won't result in a custodial sentence.
As for smoke - have you ever been behind a lightly modded EVO when the turbo spools up? Nearly always coughs out a cloud of unburnt fuel, much akin to a diesel.
The only thing that's going to be missing is the thump in the back at high revs - I genuinely enjoy running round to 7,500rpm, with 1.5 bar showing - the rush is addictive, even though I have to be bloody careful where I use it.
Yes, it's sacrilege, but then again, M division once said they'd never used forced induction on an M car and look how well the new M5 is being received...
I run a 400+ bhp Fiat Coupe and there have been many occasions when an enthusiastically-driven beemer or Audi oil-burner has made me work hard to stay close, never mind get past. Show me a long straight and I'm gone, but punching out of slow corners is a definite TD strongpoint.
I can see why Mitsubishi would go down this route - they stand a chance of making a car that's easy to drive very quickly, while still returning half-decent mpg. Adding a slug of electric torque is going to make this into an amazing car to drive at the kind of speeds that won't result in a custodial sentence.
As for smoke - have you ever been behind a lightly modded EVO when the turbo spools up? Nearly always coughs out a cloud of unburnt fuel, much akin to a diesel.
The only thing that's going to be missing is the thump in the back at high revs - I genuinely enjoy running round to 7,500rpm, with 1.5 bar showing - the rush is addictive, even though I have to be bloody careful where I use it.
Yes, it's sacrilege, but then again, M division once said they'd never used forced induction on an M car and look how well the new M5 is being received...
Cotic said:
Chris71 said:
Interesting. I wouldn't write it off until it emerges, though.
I'd take a diesel 335D (mapped obviously) over some wheezing petrol 318 any day and although the Evo will no doubt be very different with a derv it doesn't mean it has to be worse.
Yeah, so would I, but then a 318i is £12k less than a 335d. I'd have a 335i over a 335d, though, and use the 2k I'd saved to supply it with fuel for a couple of years...I'd take a diesel 335D (mapped obviously) over some wheezing petrol 318 any day and although the Evo will no doubt be very different with a derv it doesn't mean it has to be worse.
You also have to think about the way the petrol equivalents are going. Comparatively responsive, high specific output modern diesel engines are getting more interesting to drive at the same time as the new crop of HCCI turbocharged petrol engines are becoming less driver focused due to emissions leigislation and ever greater emphasis on economy. Before too long they may meet in the middle.
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