RE: Official: Subaru BRZ pics leaked
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nick-elise said:
uncle tez said:
It needs lowering straight away
This! - It looks good but it does look to sit unusually high for a sports orientated model!JB! said:
kambites said:
Hopefully this is another indication that they've gone for handling over looks and fashion, and have resisted the temptation to ruin the handling by fitting stupidly stiff springs.
TRD Coilovers are on the options list for the GT86 looks the same as the gt86 at the back (less the spoiler).. has the cr*ppy peugeot thing going on at the front (bump strip in its mouth.. for the idiots that cant drive).. same power as the toyota, but 40kg heavier... and not a single moan!..
i guess the PH majority are badge snobs then are they?! its Subaru, therefore it must be cool. its Toyota therefore its sh*..
i guess the PH majority are badge snobs then are they?! its Subaru, therefore it must be cool. its Toyota therefore its sh*..
Big E 118 said:
Looks ok, how are this and the Toyota going to compare to the 370Z? Similar price, similar layout, a lot less power. The 370Z wasn't exactly a big seller in the UK, are these two models going to prove people are now buying style over performance?
the co2 could play a surprisingly big part in this. a large amount of sales of this kinda car are company car users. the 370z is in the top band for BIK, so if you're a 40% tax payer (which most people with a 30k company car probably are), you'll be spending £4200 in tax alone each year. This might be in the 19% band (based on being a bit more than the new 118i), which would mean (lets say a 25k list price, as the 28k hasn't been verified anywhere) means £1900 in tax. so just on tax, over 3 years, the toyoburu is £6900 cheaper - and that's before you introduce the lower list price (which will probably save another couple of grand). Residules will play a big part but who knows what they'll be. We had a long thread about this a few weeks ago where everyone was overjoyed and celebrating the "£20K and about 1000kg" headline figures, I was roundly flamed for saying there wasn't a hope in hell of either and its be more, heavier and slower.... lo and behold- it is £30K (at least) and 1200kg (probably bone dry and of course without passenger, so 1400kg on the road)
I like the idea of a nice rear drive coupe as much as the next PH but where does all this Subaru-fanboy naivity come from?
No doubt Toyota have the contracts done up tight as a ducks ar*e and Subaru will have to price match for a good while after launch before either can make price and spec changes- again, where is the idea that it'll be otherwise coming from? Its just not realistic! (sadly)
All that said, it'll have been modded to within an inch of existance within weeks by the Japs, no doubt a 600+bhp version will be tearing up Youtube before the paints even dry :-)
I like the idea of a nice rear drive coupe as much as the next PH but where does all this Subaru-fanboy naivity come from?
No doubt Toyota have the contracts done up tight as a ducks ar*e and Subaru will have to price match for a good while after launch before either can make price and spec changes- again, where is the idea that it'll be otherwise coming from? Its just not realistic! (sadly)
All that said, it'll have been modded to within an inch of existance within weeks by the Japs, no doubt a 600+bhp version will be tearing up Youtube before the paints even dry :-)
scubadude said:
All that said, it'll have been modded to within an inch of existance within weeks by the Japs, no doubt a 600+bhp version will be tearing up Youtube before the paints even dry :-)
Yep."proper" boxer engines bolt straight in. twin-turbo boxer 6 from the fast legacy's anyone?
scubadude said:
We had a long thread about this a few weeks ago where everyone was overjoyed and celebrating the "£20K and about 1000kg" headline figures, I was roundly flamed for saying there wasn't a hope in hell of either and its be more, heavier and slower.... lo and behold- it is £30K (at least) and 1200kg (probably bone dry and of course without passenger, so 1400kg on the road)
Where does the 30K figure come from? People seem to just be picking numbers out of the air.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff