RE: Google patents autonomous car mode
Discussion
VPower said:
I do like my reversing sensors that clever little computer thingy that detects old ladies who can see me revering into a parking spot but still feel they can walk straight into thw way.
I do like my ABS being a superfast computer that can react faster than I can.
Wish I had one of the littel bufggers on the car I skidded into the tree with a few years back!
I do like my EPS (as for ABS)
I love that engine management system computer system that adjusts all the parameters 1000 a SECOND!
I can remember when we had to manually adjust ignition advance/retard and use a choke!
And I fekking love my 6 speed ZF autobox!
All them ups and down the gears sitting on the M25 for 3 hours becasue I AM a MAN!!!
I think my left leg is now longer than it was before they invented the "Racing" clutch.
So computer driver aids that help me? Too right!
For the record I'm not much of a fan of ABS (though it has saved my ass a couple of times) or ESP and an autobox hater but whatever floats your boat. ECUs on the other hand are good, just a pity about fly by wire throttles...
On the flip side of the "oh my god it will take all the fun out of driving" coin
Could you actually make a golf diesel more boring?
It isn't going to be fitted to caterhams etc so frankly i can't wait for a car which has a button that takes me to work while i drink a cup of tea and eat some toast.
Could you actually make a golf diesel more boring?
It isn't going to be fitted to caterhams etc so frankly i can't wait for a car which has a button that takes me to work while i drink a cup of tea and eat some toast.
Steve126 said:
If it's possible to make a car that drives itself, it must be possible to make a car that we can also drive that will take over if we are doing something that is going to result in a crash. Hopefully that will mean there will never come a time when the politicians decide we shouldn't be allowed to drive ourselves.
I'd rather they didn't bother with any of this though.
I think Merc and Volvo are already well on the way to this.I'd rather they didn't bother with any of this though.
VPower said:
Well if it's anything like my works upgrade to Windows 7, the fekking thing will crash at least once a day!
However!!
I do like my reversing sensors that clever little computer thingy that detects old ladies who can see me revering into a parking spot but still feel they can walk straight into thw way.
I do like my ABS being a superfast computer that can react faster than I can.
Wish I had one of the littel bufggers on the car I skidded into the tree with a few years back!
I do like my EPS (as for ABS)
I love that engine management system computer system that adjusts all the parameters 1000 a SECOND!
I can remember when we had to manually adjust ignition advance/retard and use a choke!
And I fekking love my 6 speed ZF autobox!
All them ups and down the gears sitting on the M25 for 3 hours becasue I AM a MAN!!!
I think my left leg is now longer than it was before they invented the "Racing" clutch.
So computer driver aids that help me? Too right!
Oh dear..However!!
I do like my reversing sensors that clever little computer thingy that detects old ladies who can see me revering into a parking spot but still feel they can walk straight into thw way.
I do like my ABS being a superfast computer that can react faster than I can.
Wish I had one of the littel bufggers on the car I skidded into the tree with a few years back!
I do like my EPS (as for ABS)
I love that engine management system computer system that adjusts all the parameters 1000 a SECOND!
I can remember when we had to manually adjust ignition advance/retard and use a choke!
And I fekking love my 6 speed ZF autobox!
All them ups and down the gears sitting on the M25 for 3 hours becasue I AM a MAN!!!
I think my left leg is now longer than it was before they invented the "Racing" clutch.
So computer driver aids that help me? Too right!
I do like driver awareness that makes me look out for road hazards and pedestrians, and not to become reliant on an electronic buzzer or illuminated graphic on the dashboard.
I do like to feel what the car is doing via the weight and vibration on the steering wheel.
I do like my wheels to lock up when I'm not driving to the conditions because I want that sense of realism to keep my prepared should the worst happen, and not sit there praying that circuit 419 will deal with it all..
I do like the wheels to spin because I've not thought about how much power I'm trying to feed in.
I do like the front wheels to understeer a little so I know where the limits are to remind me in the wet.
I do like oversteer becuase it's a great way to go round a roundabout when no ones watching
I do like my heavy mechanical dog-leg box, it's a b
h to get right when changing quickly but when you do...I do like being a driver and not a computer operator sat behind the wheel of a car which has been designed by a machine for a machine.
Computer driver aids destroy everything that real driving is all about..
Top stuff!! I can sleep through the boring schlep and be wide awake to drive the interesting bits.
The BIIIIG question:
If the car is in auto drive, and I'm in it, way over the alcohol limit, eating a bag of chips, will I be technically in charge of the vehicle?
Just imagine if they sort that one out ! Back lane hoon to the pub. Get wasted. Trundle home in the luxury of my own vehicle (with chips).
The BIIIIG question:
If the car is in auto drive, and I'm in it, way over the alcohol limit, eating a bag of chips, will I be technically in charge of the vehicle?
Just imagine if they sort that one out ! Back lane hoon to the pub. Get wasted. Trundle home in the luxury of my own vehicle (with chips).
mybrainhurts said:
DeadMeat_UK said:
Top stuff!! I can sleep through the boring schlep and be wide awake to drive the interesting bits
NO YOU CAN'T..THEY WON'T LET YOUHoly snot, why don't people think..?
king brain hurts, wearing that tinfoil hat all the time stops the air getting to it.DeadMeat_UK said:
mybrainhurts said:
DeadMeat_UK said:
Top stuff!! I can sleep through the boring schlep and be wide awake to drive the interesting bits
NO YOU CAN'T..THEY WON'T LET YOUHoly snot, why don't people think..?
king brain hurts, wearing that tinfoil hat all the time stops the air getting to it.mybrainhurts said:
DeadMeat_UK said:
mybrainhurts said:
DeadMeat_UK said:
Top stuff!! I can sleep through the boring schlep and be wide awake to drive the interesting bits
NO YOU CAN'T..THEY WON'T LET YOUHoly snot, why don't people think..?
king brain hurts, wearing that tinfoil hat all the time stops the air getting to it.Meaning, I can drive to a QR Code ON RAMP, say where I want to go. Take over again once I'm at the OFF RAMP that I want.
Makes a lot of sense.
My house. ~~~>~~~Fun wiggly bit~>~~~~[M25 J28 QR code on ramp]..>.. BORING s
t...>...[M5 J19 QR code off ramp]~>~~fun wiggly bit~>~~ Destination.What do you think it means?
DeadMeat_UK said:
mybrainhurts said:
DeadMeat_UK said:
mybrainhurts said:
DeadMeat_UK said:
Top stuff!! I can sleep through the boring schlep and be wide awake to drive the interesting bits
NO YOU CAN'T..THEY WON'T LET YOUHoly snot, why don't people think..?
king brain hurts, wearing that tinfoil hat all the time stops the air getting to it.Meaning, I can drive to a QR Code ON RAMP, say where I want to go. Take over again once I'm at the OFF RAMP that I want.
Makes a lot of sense.
My house. ~~~>~~~Fun wiggly bit~>~~~~[M25 J28 QR code on ramp]..>.. BORING s
t...>...[M5 J19 QR code off ramp]~>~~fun wiggly bit~>~~ Destination.What do you think it means?
If this gets off the ground, control freaks in government will make the whole process compulsory, not just the boring bits.
That's what governments do.
Get it now..?
Traction Control isn't on every new car sold in the EU, because there is no law saying it must be on every new car. Stabilty Control is on every new car sold within the EU though.
For people that think it's a bad idea because it'll mean every car won't be able to be driven. You're wrong beacuse because it'll be political suicide, as wealthy people bankroll politicl groups. Those wealthy people will want to be able to drive their supercars, so they won't give money to any politicl groups who don't want cars to be driven.
For people that think it's a bad idea because it'll mean every car won't be able to be driven. You're wrong beacuse because it'll be political suicide, as wealthy people bankroll politicl groups. Those wealthy people will want to be able to drive their supercars, so they won't give money to any politicl groups who don't want cars to be driven.
mybrainhurts said:
DeadMeat_UK said:
mybrainhurts said:
DeadMeat_UK said:
mybrainhurts said:
DeadMeat_UK said:
Top stuff!! I can sleep through the boring schlep and be wide awake to drive the interesting bits
NO YOU CAN'T..THEY WON'T LET YOUHoly snot, why don't people think..?
king brain hurts, wearing that tinfoil hat all the time stops the air getting to it.Meaning, I can drive to a QR Code ON RAMP, say where I want to go. Take over again once I'm at the OFF RAMP that I want.
Makes a lot of sense.
My house. ~~~>~~~Fun wiggly bit~>~~~~[M25 J28 QR code on ramp]..>.. BORING s
t...>...[M5 J19 QR code off ramp]~>~~fun wiggly bit~>~~ Destination.What do you think it means?
If this gets off the ground, control freaks in government will make the whole process compulsory, not just the boring bits.
That's what governments do.
Get it now..?
They can't even switch off analogue TV without year and years and years of consultancy, public information just in case some poor unfortunate can't quite afford a modern TV.
They can't even outlaw people drinking alcohol, which is proven to kill people.
Stopping people having the freedom to pilot their own vehicle is so against "uman right innit" that they'll never ever ever manage to make it law in this country, yet alone America. There is no way they can even contemplate it until every single person who wants to drive can afford a self driving car. Which is a looooooooong way off, even if we ever get there. Certainly not in our (or probably our childrens) lifetime.
The tinfoil hat, I'm saving for the inevitability that we'll get compulsory "flight recorder" instrumentation (by government, or by ins premiums being so high without it being fitted that it becomes necessary).
There is no talk of communication between vehicles.
without this, automated cars are pointless. with this, drivers are pointless.
the ability of two automated cars to communicate enables them to drive millimeters from each other. roads would clear up, accidents would decrease, fatalities would increase by a long way. but this wouldn't work with drivered cars as well. one or the other. a combination would be lethal.
without this, automated cars are pointless. with this, drivers are pointless.
the ability of two automated cars to communicate enables them to drive millimeters from each other. roads would clear up, accidents would decrease, fatalities would increase by a long way. but this wouldn't work with drivered cars as well. one or the other. a combination would be lethal.
re33 said:
VPower said:
I do like my reversing sensors that clever little computer thingy that detects old ladies who can see me revering into a parking spot but still feel they can walk straight into thw way.
I do like my ABS being a superfast computer that can react faster than I can.
Wish I had one of the littel bufggers on the car I skidded into the tree with a few years back!
I do like my EPS (as for ABS)
I love that engine management system computer system that adjusts all the parameters 1000 a SECOND!
I can remember when we had to manually adjust ignition advance/retard and use a choke!
And I fekking love my 6 speed ZF autobox!
All them ups and down the gears sitting on the M25 for 3 hours becasue I AM a MAN!!!
I think my left leg is now longer than it was before they invented the "Racing" clutch.
So computer driver aids that help me? Too right!
For the record I'm not much of a fan of ABS (though it has saved my ass a couple of times) or ESP and an autobox hater but whatever floats your boat. ECUs on the other hand are good, just a pity about fly by wire throttles...
Over here there is little FUN driving during the commuter rush hours! It is a PAIN!
On the other hand, as I do shift work, the early run through to work can be a ball, and getting all those little computers to join in the fun IS FUN!
I had a TVR Cerbera for three years until recently, which had no dirver aids at all!!
That was so much fun it's exhausting!
As for the autobox - you need to try one with a 400BHP supercharged V8 bolted to it!
(no break in the power curve!!!)
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