RE: PH Blog: Porsche 964 RS

[lsp]

JMF894 said:

Let's all now imagine how much fun the driver would be having in an 21 year old Lotus at a track day before the wipers stopped or the seat fell off it's mountings!


Did you hear that cobblers in a pub somewhere?

No, it is from much experience.
Latterly getting into a Lotus Evora demonstrator. The carpets were soaked as it rained the night before, the glovebox cover fell off when i pushed the release button and some self tapping screws were falling out of the window frames.

[The Pits]

anyone care to explain, preferably the author himself, how tricky handling is usually considered a negative when applied to a Ferrari 348, Renault Clio V6 and so on, but when it applies to a 911 it becomes a positive.

it's entirely relevant to the article.

I'd be interested to see an intelligent answer if there was one.

[marmite monster]

why does this hurt my head to read ? can someone translate it please
something about a porsche ?

[marmite monster]

Scho said:

Worst track footage ever?

yep

[gmh23]

Bunch of hypocritical barstewards, the last porsche on aftermarket suspension and wheels got a right slagging off the PH staff

[Dan Trent]

marmite monster said:

Scho said:

Worst track footage ever?

yep

Agreed, and it was me what filmed it!

Excuses? I was in a helluva rush, there was rainwater pouring down my back as I was installing the camera and, er, yeah. Sorry. But I included it because, as said in the piece, it shows a bit of the noise and general mayhem. To be honest a forward facing camera wouldn't have done you much good either!

[Dan Trent]

gmh23 said:

Bunch of hypocritical barstewards, the last porsche on aftermarket suspension and wheels got a right slagging off the PH staff

[marmite monster]

you need a go pro with the head strap mount thing over the passenger head rest gives a great angle and the seat dampens out vibrations

[hesnotthemessiah]

Scho said:

Worst track footage ever?

Agreed!

Nice wiper action though.

[MagicalTrevor]

Whilst the footage was rubbish, I think you should use more in-car footage. Decent 1080p GoPro footage would be brilliant from internal and external mounts plus an exhaust microphone. Doesn't need any talk over the top, just decent footage plus good sound quality

[Joe911]

Dan Trent said:

Agreed, and it was me what filmed it!

Excuses? I was in a helluva rush, there was rainwater pouring down my back as I was installing the camera and, er, yeah. Sorry. But I included it because, as said in the piece, it shows a bit of the noise and general mayhem. To be honest a forward facing camera wouldn't have done you much good either!

I have footage of that same lap (in fact all the laps) taken from the dash-mounted camera (actually an iPhone4S) - you can see clearly ahead and not the steering input - I'll post it as soon as I can.

Edited by Joe911 on Tuesday 21st February 22:17

[The Pits]

Dan?

.....Dan!

.....Dan?!

[JMF894]

lsp said:

No, it is from much experience.
Latterly getting into a Lotus Evora demonstrator. The carpets were soaked as it rained the night before, the glovebox cover fell off when i pushed the release button and some self tapping screws were falling out of the window frames.

Fair play then i cannot argue with that chap

[Maldini35]

God I miss my old 964

[Slippydiff]

The Author said:

Behind them are K&N dampers set up by Porsche race gods Manthey

Ah yes, K & N, those well known purveyors of high quality aftermarket dampers. . . . . .

If Clarkson saw this he'd demand "the author of this piece be taken outside and executed"

Come on chaps, make an effort

[Joe911]

Same lap, same hamfistedness, different camera:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLNL9k8knJY

[boxsey]

Scho said:

Yes, That and some ham fisted steering inputs.

Needs re-shooting. I selflessly volunteer for the job.

My guess, from watching some of his other vides, is that Joe911 knows when it's better to use smooth inputs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fOdShlQKcA&fea...

[wtdoom]

I love these think they are God " drivers " that criticise someones driving WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO SEE THE TRACK , THE CONDITIONS AND NOT KNOWING WHAT THE DRIVERS INTENTIONS WERE .
Its so very sad .

Edited by wtdoom on Wednesday 22 February 00:43

[bikemonster]

Slippydiff said:

The Author said:

Behind them are K&N dampers set up by Porsche race gods Manthey

Ah yes, K & N, those well known purveyors of high quality aftermarket dampers. . . . . .

If Clarkson saw this he'd demand "the author of this piece be taken outside and executed"

Come on chaps, make an effort

I also spotted that.

Perhaps the car has a KW coilover air filter fitted.

[ravon]

boxsey said:

My guess, from watching some of his other vides, is that Joe911 knows when it's better to use smooth inputs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fOdShlQKcA&fea...

I'd add that you need to move down to the 19th video on that page to find an example of joe911's excellent race craft, particularly the first clip on the page is an amazing gent in his seventies who bravely drives in this though series. Generally clips with joe911 at the wheel are marked by the initials "JP".