EBC Brakes - Opinions?
Discussion
philmots said:
It's a Saab 9-3 so ST220 size/weight.. My previous car was also an ST220!
The braking performance of it at the moment is very poor at the minute. A lot worse than my OH's 206 GTI. But I bought the car with the current brakes and i've no idea what make/type they are. Judging by their performance probably the cheapest going!
It will be running about 300hp next week so need something substantial.
I should point out I'm running a Focus ST setup at the front end - so larger discs, pads and calipers. Braided hoses are worth the money IMO.The braking performance of it at the moment is very poor at the minute. A lot worse than my OH's 206 GTI. But I bought the car with the current brakes and i've no idea what make/type they are. Judging by their performance probably the cheapest going!
It will be running about 300hp next week so need something substantial.
s31tof said:
I've only ever used EBC red of yellow pads on my S3 up until late last year.
Then I changed to Ferodo DS2500 and I will not be purchasing EBC again put it that way! lol
I went the other way.Then I changed to Ferodo DS2500 and I will not be purchasing EBC again put it that way! lol
Had Ferodo DS2500, then DS3000 in my AP calipers on my VR6, so when I wanted new pads for the M5 it was obvious I would go for the Ferodos.
They lasted about 3000 miles (and 2 track days). They were also eating my discs at a rate of 3 sets of pads to 1 set of discs. Put the Yellowstuffs on (didn't bother with Ultimax/Green/Red) when I put new discs on and they did 5 track days and 10,000 miles before they needed changing. Neither I, nor my passengers complained of any lack of retardation, and I had the discs glowing at some points - and smoking for a good while after despite 2 cool-down laps.
I've only swapped to the NDX Bluestuffs because they're supposed to be even better. Time will tell, initial impressions are that the initial bite is definitely better than the Yellows (not done a track day/Ring trip on them yet).
mmm-five said:
I went the other way.
Had Ferodo DS2500, then DS3000 in my AP calipers on my VR6, so when I wanted new pads for the M5 it was obvious I would go for the Ferodos.
They lasted about 3000 miles (and 2 track days). They were also eating my discs at a rate of 3 sets of pads to 1 set of discs. Put the Yellowstuffs on (didn't bother with Ultimax/Green/Red) when I put new discs on and they did 5 track days and 10,000 miles before they needed changing. Neither I, nor my passengers complained of any lack of retardation, and I had the discs glowing at some points - and smoking for a good while after despite 2 cool-down laps.
I've only swapped to the NDX Bluestuffs because they're supposed to be even better. Time will tell, initial impressions are that the initial bite is definitely better than the Yellows (not done a track day/Ring trip on them yet).
Are you using ebc discs too?Had Ferodo DS2500, then DS3000 in my AP calipers on my VR6, so when I wanted new pads for the M5 it was obvious I would go for the Ferodos.
They lasted about 3000 miles (and 2 track days). They were also eating my discs at a rate of 3 sets of pads to 1 set of discs. Put the Yellowstuffs on (didn't bother with Ultimax/Green/Red) when I put new discs on and they did 5 track days and 10,000 miles before they needed changing. Neither I, nor my passengers complained of any lack of retardation, and I had the discs glowing at some points - and smoking for a good while after despite 2 cool-down laps.
I've only swapped to the NDX Bluestuffs because they're supposed to be even better. Time will tell, initial impressions are that the initial bite is definitely better than the Yellows (not done a track day/Ring trip on them yet).
mmm-five said:
I went the other way.
Had Ferodo DS2500, then DS3000 in my AP calipers on my VR6, so when I wanted new pads for the M5 it was obvious I would go for the Ferodos.
They lasted about 3000 miles (and 2 track days). They were also eating my discs at a rate of 3 sets of pads to 1 set of discs. Put the Yellowstuffs on (didn't bother with Ultimax/Green/Red) when I put new discs on and they did 5 track days and 10,000 miles before they needed changing. Neither I, nor my passengers complained of any lack of retardation, and I had the discs glowing at some points - and smoking for a good while after despite 2 cool-down laps.
I've only swapped to the NDX Bluestuffs because they're supposed to be even better. Time will tell, initial impressions are that the initial bite is definitely better than the Yellows (not done a track day/Ring trip on them yet).
The Blues are much better than the Yellows IMO Had Ferodo DS2500, then DS3000 in my AP calipers on my VR6, so when I wanted new pads for the M5 it was obvious I would go for the Ferodos.
They lasted about 3000 miles (and 2 track days). They were also eating my discs at a rate of 3 sets of pads to 1 set of discs. Put the Yellowstuffs on (didn't bother with Ultimax/Green/Red) when I put new discs on and they did 5 track days and 10,000 miles before they needed changing. Neither I, nor my passengers complained of any lack of retardation, and I had the discs glowing at some points - and smoking for a good while after despite 2 cool-down laps.
I've only swapped to the NDX Bluestuffs because they're supposed to be even better. Time will tell, initial impressions are that the initial bite is definitely better than the Yellows (not done a track day/Ring trip on them yet).
RobCrezz said:
mmm-five said:
I went the other way.
Had Ferodo DS2500, then DS3000 in my AP calipers on my VR6, so when I wanted new pads for the M5 it was obvious I would go for the Ferodos.
They lasted about 3000 miles (and 2 track days). They were also eating my discs at a rate of 3 sets of pads to 1 set of discs. Put the Yellowstuffs on (didn't bother with Ultimax/Green/Red) when I put new discs on and they did 5 track days and 10,000 miles before they needed changing. Neither I, nor my passengers complained of any lack of retardation, and I had the discs glowing at some points - and smoking for a good while after despite 2 cool-down laps.
I've only swapped to the NDX Bluestuffs because they're supposed to be even better. Time will tell, initial impressions are that the initial bite is definitely better than the Yellows (not done a track day/Ring trip on them yet).
The Blues are much better than the Yellows IMO Had Ferodo DS2500, then DS3000 in my AP calipers on my VR6, so when I wanted new pads for the M5 it was obvious I would go for the Ferodos.
They lasted about 3000 miles (and 2 track days). They were also eating my discs at a rate of 3 sets of pads to 1 set of discs. Put the Yellowstuffs on (didn't bother with Ultimax/Green/Red) when I put new discs on and they did 5 track days and 10,000 miles before they needed changing. Neither I, nor my passengers complained of any lack of retardation, and I had the discs glowing at some points - and smoking for a good while after despite 2 cool-down laps.
I've only swapped to the NDX Bluestuffs because they're supposed to be even better. Time will tell, initial impressions are that the initial bite is definitely better than the Yellows (not done a track day/Ring trip on them yet).
Not aiming this at anyone in particular; just sayin'.
s31tof said:
I've only ever used EBC red of yellow pads on my S3 up until late last year.
Then I changed to Ferodo DS2500 and I will not be purchasing EBC again put it that way! lol
I have DS2500 at the moment and I feel that there is are much of an improvement over OEM, from what I’ve tried. I’m going to replace them with Yellows shortly, as I have solid personal recommendations for them. I think Blues will probably be overkill for fast road. This is on an M3 though, so very different car to an S3.Then I changed to Ferodo DS2500 and I will not be purchasing EBC again put it that way! lol
philmots said:
Blues aren't available for my car... Yellows have very strong cold bite, which is what i want.
Not sure to use their standard discs? What are the benifits of grooved or slotted ones? Slotted ones look smart!!!
Your car is purely for road use, isn't it? You really don't want Bluestuff pads.Not sure to use their standard discs? What are the benifits of grooved or slotted ones? Slotted ones look smart!!!
For those who do, however, they're quite poorly marketed. Best way to check is to find the EBC product code for Yellowstuff, extract the numbers (four or five digits) and put the letters DP before the numbers and NDX after the numbers to create a new product code. Then pop that into the search box of an EBC pad supplier (or, indeed, Google). This will give you a definitive idea of whether they exist for your car.
V8mate said:
Your car is purely for road use, isn't it? You really don't want Bluestuff pads.
For those who do, however, they're quite poorly marketed. Best way to check is to find the EBC product code for Yellowstuff, extract the numbers (four or five digits) and put the letters DP before the numbers and NDX after the numbers to create a new product code. Then pop that into the search box of an EBC pad supplier (or, indeed, Google). This will give you a definitive idea of whether they exist for your car.
Yes just road... fast road! But have to work pottering about, also.For those who do, however, they're quite poorly marketed. Best way to check is to find the EBC product code for Yellowstuff, extract the numbers (four or five digits) and put the letters DP before the numbers and NDX after the numbers to create a new product code. Then pop that into the search box of an EBC pad supplier (or, indeed, Google). This will give you a definitive idea of whether they exist for your car.
Any opinion on the slotted discs?
I'm only using Yellows/Blues because of the amount of 250 mile Welsh hoons I do 
That, a few track days and a couple of 'Ring trips a year.
When I'm on a hook I've also picked up the habit of gently touching the brake pedal now & then to clean up/warm the pads for any big/unexpected braking.
That, a few track days and a couple of 'Ring trips a year.
When I'm on a hook I've also picked up the habit of gently touching the brake pedal now & then to clean up/warm the pads for any big/unexpected braking.
Edited by mmm-five on Friday 24th February 17:35
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