BMW z3 2.8i turbo conversion.....?

BMW z3 2.8i turbo conversion.....?

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300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

192 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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yonex said:
Sports car...really?
To anyone with half a brain cell yes.

Corsair7

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20,911 posts

249 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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TEKNOPUG said:
I wouldn’t bother spending any more than that. There is more power to be had from the 2.8 – change the cams, exhaust etc. But ultimately just diminishing returns as you spend more to get less.

The 2.8s were detuned from the factory to comply with some German emission laws at the time. They fitted a constrictive inlet manifold and a few other bits to the intake system. The intake from the 2.5 is far less restrictive and will gain about 15% power on the 2.8 and allow it to run as it was designed. It’s pretty much plug and play.

If you look on the E36 websites there is LOADS on tuning the 2.8 engine, although I wouldn’t suggest spending money on anything other than breathing mods. Better to spend the cash on making sure all the stock components are tip-top. If you still want more power after that, look for a different car.
Well here's the good news....
Its already fitted with the manifold from the 2.5, it just hasn't had a remap as yet....

So it running a bit lumpy, with some flatspots. I've spoken to DMS and they rekon £495 +vat and it should be much nicer...

TEKNOPUG

19,053 posts

207 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Corsair7 said:
Well here's the good news....
Its already fitted with the manifold from the 2.5, it just hasn't had a remap as yet....

So it running a bit lumpy, with some flatspots. I've spoken to DMS and they rekon £495 +vat and it should be much nicer...
There are still some cheap things you can do to let the engine spin a bit better, remove aircon, lighter pulleys, lightened flywheel, fan delete etc.

Have a look here: http://www.bmwowner.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&a...

As I say, there are loads of threads on modding the 2.8

Edited by TEKNOPUG on Thursday 5th April 17:10

hairyben

8,516 posts

185 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Corsair7 said:
I doubt I could get more than the £2800 I paid for my car, probably less. As I said, its a nice motor, and I dont want to spend £6000 replacing it. Seems like the turbo conversion would cost me more than I had anticipated so probably a non starter.

Maybe Pistonheads is the wrong place to ask about car tuning and upgrades.....
academic now I guess, but a car with a book value ITRO £3k with 3k of turbo-conversion will be lucky to see it's book value at resale... the £6k option is probably more cost effective, depending on your plans.

aka_kerrly

12,444 posts

212 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Have you considered the supercharger route?

There are off the shelf kits available from VF engineering & Rotrex or other people have used Eaton M62s which can be found on Mercedes Kompressor models.

anonymous-user

56 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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300bhp/ton said:
To anyone with half a brain cell yes.
Lost on you then.

Not enough power and terrible gearbox, but then it's probably perfect in your eyes as everything flawed seems to be biggrin

Fox-

13,265 posts

248 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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yonex said:
Sports car...really?
Really.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's an absolutely dreadful thing, but it's definately a sports car, just like an MX5 is yet a BMW M3 isn't.

XitUp

7,690 posts

206 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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yonex said:
Lost on you then.

Not enough power and terrible gearbox, but then it's probably perfect in your eyes as everything flawed seems to be biggrin
Sports cars don't need to be fast or have a good gearbox.


s m

23,313 posts

205 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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How much are the 3 litre turbo Z4s down to now?

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

165 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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There was a Z3 converted to BMW V8 by Schnitzer

Fox-

13,265 posts

248 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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s m said:
How much are the 3 litre turbo Z4s down to now?
£20k.

NiceCupOfTea

25,298 posts

253 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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yonex said:
300bhp/ton said:
To anyone with half a brain cell yes.
Lost on you then.

Not enough power and terrible gearbox, but then it's probably perfect in your eyes as everything flawed seems to be biggrin
Oh grow up. I'm sure 300bhp/ton can stand up for himself but I am so weary of all the grief he gets on here.

The Smart Roadster is a sports car irrespective of what you may think of its power output or gearbox. Reminds me of that 'tard on here a few years ago insisting that the MX-5 wasn't a sports car because it wasn't quick enough! Missing the point!

Plenty of turbocharged sports cars: 911 turbo, 944 turbo, MR2 turbo, 200sx, F40, well-trodden t/charged MX-5 upgrade path, etc., etc.

XitUp

7,690 posts

206 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Most of those are GTs. I'd say the F40 is a supercar, not a sports car.

Smart Roadster and MR2 turbo count though.

s m

23,313 posts

205 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Fox- said:
s m said:
How much are the 3 litre turbo Z4s down to now?
£20k.
Ouch - still quite pricey then......

NiceCupOfTea

25,298 posts

253 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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XitUp said:
Most of those are GTs. I'd say the F40 is a supercar, not a sports car.

Smart Roadster and MR2 turbo count though.
But the point being that there are many driver focused turbocharged cars!

XitUp

7,690 posts

206 months

Thursday 5th April 2012
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Indeed.

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

210 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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Turbo it! Will only be expensive if you pay someone else to do it!

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

180 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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NiceCupOfTea said:
But the point being that there are many driver focused turbocharged cars!
I believe some Japanese chaps rustled up some wink

OP modifying to get bog power increases out of your car is possible but expensive to do properly.

As much as you love it have a look at some other choices of vehicle for what you could sell yours for and go do some test driving smile

NiceCupOfTea

25,298 posts

253 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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Just remembered the VX220 Turbo as well.

It's all in the delivery: big turbo with a sudden wave of torque and it's going to be tricky to balance - smaller turbo with more gradual feed in and it's going to be much easier to drive. Appreciate that some will prefer the purity of the n/a engine though, and I agree that it's going to be expensive to turbocharge it properly. It won't be worth what you put into it either...

s m

23,313 posts

205 months

Friday 6th April 2012
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XitUp said:
Most of those are GTs. I'd say the F40 is a supercar
I'd go so far as to say it's a fantastic car, not just super

Always great to see on the road