Cost of New Car Vs Used Car. Am i missing anything?

Cost of New Car Vs Used Car. Am i missing anything?

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Fox-

13,263 posts

248 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Plus a rainy day isn't neccesarily a negative event.

Fast forward 4 years. You get made redundant. Your mate says 'Sod it, lets go travelling for 6 months and sort the job thing out when we get back'

'Can't, I leased an Ibiza'

'Where is it?'

'Went back last year'

etc. Ok it's not quite as simple as that but it explains why its useful to have a stash for a rainy day.

okie592

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2,711 posts

169 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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Fox- said:
Plus a rainy day isn't neccesarily a negative event.

Fast forward 4 years. You get made redundant. Your mate says 'Sod it, lets go travelling for 6 months and sort the job thing out when we get back'

'Can't, I leased an Ibiza'

'Where is it?'

'Went back last year'

etc. Ok it's not quite as simple as that but it explains why its useful to have a stash for a rainy day.
fair point, although im still going to be putting away a certain amount every month, so still going to have a fair wack saved up at any point in time. thats what im getting at, although a car is going to cost me £200 a month plus fuel etc, the new car isnt going to need a mot, possable a new clutch and radiatior the bora is going to need, is it worth thowing around £500 at a car worth less than £2k now?

re the leon cupra, was looking at those and other incarnations of the 1.8t and all are around £4k to insure, hense the want to reduce the cost of insurance tax etc


Edited by okie592 on Sunday 15th April 20:06


Edited by okie592 on Sunday 15th April 20:15

AdeTuono

7,277 posts

229 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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OP; sounds like you've already made up your mind. You ask for advice, most of which is to re-think, but you continue to justify why you will go ahead regardless. Why bother to ask if you know you're going to ignore everyone?

paps

1,040 posts

229 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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I think that pcp is good if you've got a commute and rack up the miles, say 15k+ miles a year. With a reduction in your annual milage, the argument for getting a new car becomes less solid. I can understand your concern at (potentially) throwing money at the Bora but your entering the "bangernomics" phase of ownership which could see you save money overall.

daemon

35,951 posts

199 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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okie592 said:
Fox- said:
Plus a rainy day isn't neccesarily a negative event.

Fast forward 4 years. You get made redundant. Your mate says 'Sod it, lets go travelling for 6 months and sort the job thing out when we get back'

'Can't, I leased an Ibiza'

'Where is it?'

'Went back last year'

etc. Ok it's not quite as simple as that but it explains why its useful to have a stash for a rainy day.
fair point, although im still going to be putting away a certain amount every month, so still going to have a fair wack saved up at any point in time. thats what im getting at, although a car is going to cost me £200 a month plus fuel etc, the new car isnt going to need a mot, possable a new clutch and radiatior the bora is going to need, is it worth thowing around £500 at a car worth less than £2k now?

re the leon cupra, was looking at those and other incarnations of the 1.8t and all are around £4k to insure, hense the want to reduce the cost of insurance tax etc


Edited by okie592 on Sunday 15th April 20:06


Edited by okie592 on Sunday 15th April 20:15
The novelty of a new ibiza will wear off fairly quickly and you'll be left with a rather dull hatchback that you have to keep for 2 years.

Up to yourself but its a big commitment at your age for very little in return.

daemon

35,951 posts

199 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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okie592 said:
although a car is going to cost me £200 a month plus fuel etc, the new car isnt going to need a mot, possable a new clutch and radiatior the bora is going to need, is it worth thowing around £500 at a car worth less than £2k now?
Does your car really need a clutch and a radiator, or is that a handy £500 bill to stack up against keeping it?

Also, you'll need to get those fixed to get the best price possible for your car?

okie592

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2,711 posts

169 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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daemon said:
Does your car really need a clutch and a radiator, or is that a handy £500 bill to stack up against keeping it?

Also, you'll need to get those fixed to get the best price possible for your car?
it is leaking coolent, probs could get away with a can of radweld. clutch im not so sure about its getting higher and higer and makes some wierd sounds.

Im worried about being bored pretty quickly, but nearly ever car i look at is alot to insure, i wouldnt mind £2k for something like a 1.8t but its at least 4 grand, plus the extra tax.

in reality i want a warm or hot hatch, but its not going to happen this year, hense why i thought this ibiza.

unless anyone can suggest something better?

After_Shock

8,751 posts

222 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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If you get the Gap get return to invoice not finance gap, make sure it is return to invoice as has been suggested.

People saying they cant see any sense in it have clearly been ripped off on finance gap and have never used or had experience of return to invoice gap that does pay out well.

However you 'dont' have to take it by any means.

Regardless which way you look at it the Bora is the cheaper option, providing nothing blows up on it.

If you want a new car for a couple of years, look at some of the PCH deals about, if your miles arent high some stupidly cheap offers kicking about.

okie592

Original Poster:

2,711 posts

169 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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After_Shock said:
If you get the Gap get return to invoice not finance gap, make sure it is return to invoice as has been suggested.

People saying they cant see any sense in it have clearly been ripped off on finance gap and have never used or had experience of return to invoice gap that does pay out well.

However you 'dont' have to take it by any means.

Regardless which way you look at it the Bora is the cheaper option, providing nothing blows up on it.

If you want a new car for a couple of years, look at some of the PCH deals about, if your miles arent high some stupidly cheap offers kicking about.
sorry to sound dense but what is PCH? how does it work?

thanks for the adivce on gap

After_Shock

8,751 posts

222 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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okie592 said:
sorry to sound dense but what is PCH? how does it work?

thanks for the adivce on gap
PCH is Personal Contract Hire, similar to PCP but no end payment just hand it back in the same way you can with the pcp.

oldcynic

2,166 posts

163 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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okie592 said:
daemon said:
Does your car really need a clutch and a radiator, or is that a handy £500 bill to stack up against keeping it?

Also, you'll need to get those fixed to get the best price possible for your car?
it is leaking coolent, probs could get away with a can of radweld. clutch im not so sure about its getting higher and higer and makes some wierd sounds.

Im worried about being bored pretty quickly, but nearly ever car i look at is alot to insure, i wouldnt mind £2k for something like a 1.8t but its at least 4 grand, plus the extra tax.

in reality i want a warm or hot hatch, but its not going to happen this year, hense why i thought this ibiza.

unless anyone can suggest something better?
Have you checked with a sensibly priced garage exactly what may be wrong with your car, and what it will really cost to repair?

To answer an earlier comment, yes it is completely worth spending £500 to keep a £2000 car on the road. Either that or get yourself into an utterly dull financed new car which will drain the potential budget for an interesting replacement. You mention the possibility of university in the next couple of years - don't you think a pot of money to give you some choices would be helpful?

Take a tip from someone who's been there - get the Bora fixed, valeted and polished for the price of a couple of months finance to give it that "new to you" feel, then drive it for another year or two until you can actually afford to buy the car you want for cash. By then you'll probably annoy yourself by becoming quite fond of the old thing - and if you don't you'll have plenty of choice about what to replace it with.

After_Shock

8,751 posts

222 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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oldcynic said:
buy the car you want for cash.
Dont buy a new one for cash, cant think of a more wastefull way of throwing thousands away over night.

frosted

3,549 posts

179 months

Sunday 15th April 2012
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By your figures running a lease car over 3 years will cost you close to 14k

Edited by frosted on Monday 16th April 00:58

okie592

Original Poster:

2,711 posts

169 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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£14k blimey.

im going for some test drives and see whats the best option around, ideally i want more power but im willing to compromise for now.

might even clean the bora today if the rain holds off

Bacon Is Proof

5,740 posts

233 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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okie592 said:
For those doubting i can afford it, im 19 live at home, pay no rent, work full time and after bills have a disposable income of about £800 a month
Why not chuck some cash your parent's way?
That way you'll avoid being called a spoilt ungrateful little st by the miserable members of PH.
party

daemon

35,951 posts

199 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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frosted said:
By your figures running a lease car over 3 years will cost you close to 14k

Edited by frosted on Monday 16th April 00:58
£199 deposit, £199 a month for 36 months = £7383?

Where are you getting the other £7K from?

Dapster

7,039 posts

182 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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If you're not doing many miles, spend your £200 / month on a loan and get something tasty and classic that won't depreciate. I'd polish up the Bora and get shot of it in exchange for something like this. Plus a bit left over in the kitty in case it gives you any trouble....

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3708513.htm

okie592

Original Poster:

2,711 posts

169 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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Dapster said:
If you're not doing many miles, spend your £200 / month on a loan and get something tasty and classic that won't depreciate. I'd polish up the Bora and get shot of it in exchange for something like this. Plus a bit left over in the kitty in case it gives you any trouble....

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3708513.htm
ide never have a porsche, im all for selling up and getting something fun, but as i said insurance over £2k is not something im prepared to pay:

clio 172 is something i really want, but £4500 to just be able to drive it for a year fook that! it be less next year but not by much

frosted

3,549 posts

179 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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daemon said:
£199 deposit, £199 a month for 36 months = £7383?

Where are you getting the other £7K from?
£7383 lease
£1200 x 3 for insurance
£1000 x 3 on petrol
£1000 misc



neilbauer

2,467 posts

185 months

Monday 16th April 2012
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Get a bank loan, buy a nice 57 plate something, then if you sell it you can clear the loan or continue to pay it. Either way your not going to end up with nothing at the end of it rolleyes