RE: Abarth expands with 595 Turismo and Competizione
Discussion
AndyWoodall said:
I'm a huge fan of these Abarths, was very excited about their release, was planning to order and had an early test drive. Then I drove one, standard car is fine but I wanted the 160bhp and for that you also had to have the damper 'upgrades' in the Essesse kit which made the car unsuable on a rutted British B-road IMHO. The thing bounced all over the shop. Shame, because everything else about the car was thoroughly respectable.
I can see why anyone would buy one of the new Abarths and these special ed's with good kit are a nice option. Still want one, but that rides got to be sorted.
This is why I ended up getting the vanilla Abarth, suspension was unbearable on the Essesse. I'm glad I did as it's plenty nippy and gets great mpg, and once the 5 yr warranty runs out I can chip it (although I've been so impressed I'll probably buy another new one as I need 3 cars).I can see why anyone would buy one of the new Abarths and these special ed's with good kit are a nice option. Still want one, but that rides got to be sorted.
Looking at these new models it still makes sense to buy vanilla + the Essesse kit from the dealer whereby you are left with all the bits taken from the standard car to do as you wish with .
(unless you want the girly colours)
Devil2575 said:
Type R Tom said:
Don't think I could bring myself to spend best part of £20k (with a couple more extras) on a Fiat 500!
I agree. That's insane money for a supermini with a 1.4, turbo or not.Matt UK said:
Greg 172 said:
eliotrw said:
Things havent changed much at all.
A 306 gti6 was 18k on release.
Which is roughly 25k in todays money
But it's also not that long ago that you could get a Clio 172 Cup for £12,995 (I think?). A 306 gti6 was 18k on release.
Which is roughly 25k in todays money
Greg 172 said:
But it's also not that long ago that you could get a Clio 172 Cup for £12,995 (I think?).
It was around the same time Citroen Picasso's were under £10k.... there around £17-18k for a base model now!b.t.w the abarth sounds so good fun.... reminds me of the 127 sSort in some ways
If I had the money for a city / small commuter car I would probably consider one. I regularly see a guy commuting to Canary Wharf (via the Blackwall Tunnel) in an 911 GT3 RS and always think t
t!
If I had that sort of money I’d probably have something like this for the commute and keep the 911 for the weekend!
t!If I had that sort of money I’d probably have something like this for the commute and keep the 911 for the weekend!
pti said:
Matt UK said:
Greg 172 said:
eliotrw said:
Things havent changed much at all.
A 306 gti6 was 18k on release.
Which is roughly 25k in todays money
But it's also not that long ago that you could get a Clio 172 Cup for £12,995 (I think?). A 306 gti6 was 18k on release.
Which is roughly 25k in todays money
I guess my point is that £13k back then seemed pretty reasonable for what you were getting, whereas now most cars I look at seem to be priced to a point where I don't understand how people can afford them. Looking past the obvious '£30k? For a Golf?' meme, just getting in to a 1.6 Zetec Focus costs over £17k.
Greg 172 said:
pti said:
Matt UK said:
Greg 172 said:
eliotrw said:
Things havent changed much at all.
A 306 gti6 was 18k on release.
Which is roughly 25k in todays money
But it's also not that long ago that you could get a Clio 172 Cup for £12,995 (I think?). A 306 gti6 was 18k on release.
Which is roughly 25k in todays money
I guess my point is that £13k back then seemed pretty reasonable for what you were getting, whereas now most cars I look at seem to be priced to a point where I don't understand how people can afford them. Looking past the obvious '£30k? For a Golf?' meme, just getting in to a 1.6 Zetec Focus costs over £17k.
I remember when this was all fields...
Matt UK said:
We're starting to sound old
I remember when this was all fields...
Ha! Yeah, I know...I remember when this was all fields...
Seriously though, when car manufacturers are quoting their great finance packages that involve putting down £1500, 36 payments of £250 and then £8k balloon at the end (just for a generic mid-range hatch) I do wonder who actually has that disposable income*.
- I have discovered over time that it seems most PHers must work in IT, banking or some other highly lucrative industry and therefore cannot be classed as 'normal' when it comes to discposable income. Except me.
Lived with one for over 3 years.
Great little car & a hoot to drive, not sure I would pay for all the extras on the new ones, guess its just stop gaps to give present owners who have had them for a few years a new model to consider. Few people will buy the identical car again & at present Abarth have nothing really new to offer. Happy to keep the currecnt car until a proper update comes along or drift off to another manufacturer if it doesent
Great little car & a hoot to drive, not sure I would pay for all the extras on the new ones, guess its just stop gaps to give present owners who have had them for a few years a new model to consider. Few people will buy the identical car again & at present Abarth have nothing really new to offer. Happy to keep the currecnt car until a proper update comes along or drift off to another manufacturer if it doesent
dasherdiablo1 said:
The alloys just don't look right to me on either - the Turismo ones are soo close to being right but I think the way the spokes 'interfere' with the rim looks untidy.
As others have said - I do love the sound of the standard versions so god know what these will sound like!
Must admit, I prefer the Essesse wheels.As others have said - I do love the sound of the standard versions so god know what these will sound like!
The esseesse kit is a mixed bag.
The suspension gets a bad press due to the damping - the main reason it’s not so good is due to Abarth lowering the car but leaving the bloody great huge bump stops in place.
This effectively give 30mm of travel before the bump stops come into play – yes 30mm
two options 1- cut them down or 2- replace with shorter items from a Fiat Coupe.
totally transforms the ride and cornering ability. Stupid of Abarth not to do this from factory.
I have one as an commuter hack and tuned to 185ish bhp it's bloody good fun ( frugal too )
The suspension gets a bad press due to the damping - the main reason it’s not so good is due to Abarth lowering the car but leaving the bloody great huge bump stops in place.
This effectively give 30mm of travel before the bump stops come into play – yes 30mm
two options 1- cut them down or 2- replace with shorter items from a Fiat Coupe.
totally transforms the ride and cornering ability. Stupid of Abarth not to do this from factory.
I have one as an commuter hack and tuned to 185ish bhp it's bloody good fun ( frugal too )
Type R Tom said:
If I had the money for a city / small commuter car I would probably consider one. I regularly see a guy commuting to Canary Wharf (via the Blackwall Tunnel) in an 911 GT3 RS and always think tt!
If I had that sort of money I’d probably have something like this for the commute and keep the 911 for the weekend!
He probably has an Aventador for the weekend and that is what he considers a city runabout... Don't worry he's still a t**t though. t!If I had that sort of money I’d probably have something like this for the commute and keep the 911 for the weekend!
Is there a reach adjustable steering column yet??
If not, then I still won't fit.
Why do all these tiny cars have a seat which moves 16 inches forward and backwards, but a fixed position steering wheel??
I really wanted to buy an Abarth last year, but just wasn't comfortable with my arms stretched right out.
If not, then I still won't fit.
Why do all these tiny cars have a seat which moves 16 inches forward and backwards, but a fixed position steering wheel??
I really wanted to buy an Abarth last year, but just wasn't comfortable with my arms stretched right out.
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