Discussion
LordHaveMurci said:
big_boz said:
My sister has a 172 CUP, never gets more than 25mpg out of it, but does tend to drive it like she stole it.
She must do, mine averages 26-27mpg & that's mainly a 2ml commute across town or hillclimbing!
t out of it, fair play to the little beastie though other than normal maintenance and refurbed alloys nowt else has gone wrong and she has had it for years, i even think the optional AC still works.I have driven it a few times and i would find it very hard to drive sedately if it was mine, but then if i wanted an economical supermini i wouldn't be plumping for a renaultsport clio of any description!
MC Bodge said:
Given Two cars of equally good mechanical condition, which is the better? The 172 or the 182?
Well the 182 will be newer, and the twin exhaust looks better IMO.I'm not sure what differences between then there will be to be honest, wonder if its just the different exhaust that gives the extra power
MC Bodge said:
Given Two cars of equally good mechanical condition, which is the better? The 172 or the 182?
The 172 Cup and 182 Trophy are generally regarded as the best of the breed. All of 'em are great, though! I've had two examples of the latter (I've written about my time with them extensively in my profile), and on average I got between 30 and 35 mpg.David87 said:
MC Bodge said:
Given Two cars of equally good mechanical condition, which is the better? The 172 or the 182?
The 172 Cup and 182 Trophy are generally regarded as the best of the breed. All of 'em are great, though! I've had two examples of the latter (I've written about my time with them extensively in my profile), and on average I got between 30 and 35 mpg.-172
-172 Cup
-182
-182 Cup
-182 Trophy
They are all different to a greater or lesser degree. The 182 Trophy being the most different and the rarest.
MPG I average 36mpg mixed driving and I don't hang about
Sat at 85 they average around 35mpg drop down to 70 and will do 40mpg
Even thrashing it still see late 20's mine is a 172
With regards to milleage get one with history get one with lots of receipts that has been well looked after and should be very cheap to run buy a dog and could cost you hundreds if not thousands as tameracingdrivers showed. I have put 10k miles on mine in 7 months had no issues at all accept needing new spark plugs as old ones were the incorrect type and caused a misfire.
My friend has a ph1 on 115k miles and it still feels tight as a drum but it does have a lot of service history have seen some with half the miles that are fked buy on condition 
Sat at 85 they average around 35mpg drop down to 70 and will do 40mpg
Even thrashing it still see late 20's mine is a 172
With regards to milleage get one with history get one with lots of receipts that has been well looked after and should be very cheap to run buy a dog and could cost you hundreds if not thousands as tameracingdrivers showed. I have put 10k miles on mine in 7 months had no issues at all accept needing new spark plugs as old ones were the incorrect type and caused a misfire.
My friend has a ph1 on 115k miles and it still feels tight as a drum but it does have a lot of service history have seen some with half the miles that are f
ked buy on condition Edited by greggy50 on Monday 12th November 20:13
I got around 22mpg on mine. And yes I drove it like I stole it. Well not quite actually because it was stolen and written off fom hitting a speed bump to hard! So no I didn't drive it like that!
I had a 182 cup. It was absolutely amazing to drive. Not particularly well put together but the way it drive meant you would excuse it anything.
As mentioned the big thing to look out for is a recent cam belt change they are fairly expensive given the current values of the cars. I believe Renault used to charge about a grand.
If I had the space I'd have one again in a shot. In 10 years time or so I can see me paying top money for one as the memories are so good.
Oh forgot to add they do eat front tyres if you use fairly nice rubber. I got through a set every 7k miles.
I had a 182 cup. It was absolutely amazing to drive. Not particularly well put together but the way it drive meant you would excuse it anything.
As mentioned the big thing to look out for is a recent cam belt change they are fairly expensive given the current values of the cars. I believe Renault used to charge about a grand.
If I had the space I'd have one again in a shot. In 10 years time or so I can see me paying top money for one as the memories are so good.
Oh forgot to add they do eat front tyres if you use fairly nice rubber. I got through a set every 7k miles.
I don't understand how people manage to get mpg in the 20s, I average 39-40mpg and I don't spare the boot at all. That said I do actually look after my car unlike many.
So to answer the original questions:
Mpg = excellent (better than anything with remotely similar performance)
Reliability: in 2 years and 24000 miles, absolutely nothing has gone wrong. Can't really complain about that.
Belt changes are expensive, so are tyres (it needs proper tyres). I think they are stonkingly good cars, I originally bought mine planning to keep if for 3 years then get something else but it's so good I shall be keeping it for a long time.
So to answer the original questions:
Mpg = excellent (better than anything with remotely similar performance)
Reliability: in 2 years and 24000 miles, absolutely nothing has gone wrong. Can't really complain about that.
Belt changes are expensive, so are tyres (it needs proper tyres). I think they are stonkingly good cars, I originally bought mine planning to keep if for 3 years then get something else but it's so good I shall be keeping it for a long time.
steve singh said:
Hi all...
Just some questions around Clio 182...
You can apparently get a 182 on a 2004 with 85k on the clock for around £2-3k.
That seems like quite good value for money.
My questions are...
1) Does anybody have real life experience of MPG ?
2) Does it come with a 3rd seat belt in the rear as standard (couldn't see it on some pics?)
3) Is the car typically going to represent a money pit due to high mileaage - or are these clio's quite robust?
Thanks in advance.
I've had a 172 (Phase 1) and a 182.Just some questions around Clio 182...
You can apparently get a 182 on a 2004 with 85k on the clock for around £2-3k.
That seems like quite good value for money.
My questions are...
1) Does anybody have real life experience of MPG ?
2) Does it come with a 3rd seat belt in the rear as standard (couldn't see it on some pics?)
3) Is the car typically going to represent a money pit due to high mileaage - or are these clio's quite robust?
Thanks in advance.
1. With gentle driving, expect about 34 MPG in mixed driving. Thrashing it will see it into the 20s. On a steady run 40+ is possible. It does need super unleaded to give its best though.
2. Can't remember sorry.
3. Money pit = Definitely IMO. Both of my suffered issue after issue. The 182 which was brand new was never out of the dealership, I think I drove their courtesy cars more than the 182. The 172 cost me £2K in 3 months before I gave up on it. Problem after problem. Build quality is appalling. No doubt someone will tell me I'm wrong though, and that me and my wallet imagined it
Nothing went wrong with either of my Mk2 Clios. Had a Trophy and a Phase 1 172, both great fun. They're so cheap now it's ridiculous.
Actually crashed my Phase 1 at Cadwell, on Hall bends of course, but it didn't really matter as it was so cheap, sold it with all the good bits on to a friend who stripped it, then I'm gonna buy another next year to do some more trackdays hopefully
Actually crashed my Phase 1 at Cadwell, on Hall bends of course, but it didn't really matter as it was so cheap, sold it with all the good bits on to a friend who stripped it, then I'm gonna buy another next year to do some more trackdays hopefully
TameRacingDriver said:
I've had a 172 (Phase 1) and a 182.
1. With gentle driving, expect about 34 MPG in mixed driving. Thrashing it will see it into the 20s. On a steady run 40+ is possible. It does need super unleaded to give its best though.
2. Can't remember sorry.
3. Money pit = Definitely IMO. Both of my suffered issue after issue. The 182 which was brand new was never out of the dealership, I think I drove their courtesy cars more than the 182. The 172 cost me £2K in 3 months before I gave up on it. Problem after problem. Build quality is appalling. No doubt someone will tell me I'm wrong though, and that me and my wallet imagined it
Your 2nd one looked a dog when you brought it the key is buying one like when you solid it i.e. someone had fixed all the expensive bits that can go wrong. I paid £1700 for my 172 at 63k about 7 months ago its not on 75k and had nothing go wrong as said even someone driving into it on an island didn't kill it...1. With gentle driving, expect about 34 MPG in mixed driving. Thrashing it will see it into the 20s. On a steady run 40+ is possible. It does need super unleaded to give its best though.
2. Can't remember sorry.
3. Money pit = Definitely IMO. Both of my suffered issue after issue. The 182 which was brand new was never out of the dealership, I think I drove their courtesy cars more than the 182. The 172 cost me £2K in 3 months before I gave up on it. Problem after problem. Build quality is appalling. No doubt someone will tell me I'm wrong though, and that me and my wallet imagined it
greggy50 said:
Your 2nd one looked a dog when you brought it the key is buying one like when you solid it i.e. someone had fixed all the expensive bits that can go wrong. I paid £1700 for my 172 at 63k about 7 months ago its not on 75k and had nothing go wrong as said even someone driving into it on an island didn't kill it...
It was a "dog" that had a full service history, low mileage, excellent body work and a relatively recent cambelt, though.TameRacingDriver said:
I've had a 172 (Phase 1) and a 182.
1. With gentle driving, expect about 34 MPG in mixed driving. Thrashing it will see it into the 20s. On a steady run 40+ is possible. It does need super unleaded to give its best though.
2. Can't remember sorry.
3. Money pit = Definitely IMO. Both of my suffered issue after issue. The 182 which was brand new was never out of the dealership, I think I drove their courtesy cars more than the 182. The 172 cost me £2K in 3 months before I gave up on it. Problem after problem. Build quality is appalling. No doubt someone will tell me I'm wrong though, and that me and my wallet imagined it
^^^^^ what he said X10000000001. With gentle driving, expect about 34 MPG in mixed driving. Thrashing it will see it into the 20s. On a steady run 40+ is possible. It does need super unleaded to give its best though.
2. Can't remember sorry.
3. Money pit = Definitely IMO. Both of my suffered issue after issue. The 182 which was brand new was never out of the dealership, I think I drove their courtesy cars more than the 182. The 172 cost me £2K in 3 months before I gave up on it. Problem after problem. Build quality is appalling. No doubt someone will tell me I'm wrong though, and that me and my wallet imagined it
TameRacingDriver said:
It was a "dog" that had a full service history, low mileage, excellent body work and a relatively recent cambelt, though.
Boy racer wheels and lowered suspension would have put me off yours straight away and thought it was like 70/80k miles so not that low think you were unlucky with the dephaser going if the cambelt had gone however.As said mine has been good and a friend has a ph1 brought on 94k now on like 115k had to get the cambelt done but has been faultless apart from that and the fuel economy really is amazing for the performance I am getting better mpg than I managed in my 1.4 ZR!
greggy50 said:
Boy racer wheels and lowered suspension would have put me off yours straight away and thought it was like 70/80k miles so not that low think you were unlucky with the dephaser going if the cambelt had gone however.
I see your point but wheels and suspension does not mean the rest of the car is automatically crap, even if this one turned out to be.Never, ever again from my perspective though. Renaults aren't ranked near the bottom of satisfaction surveys for nothing.
the stigs dad said:
The clio's do handle well but are poorly made and unreliable from my experience too. Even if cherished and looked after running costs are high for a glorified shopping trolley.
Indeed. Buying one and expecting it to be cheap to run is at best, a lottery.They do drive well, in particular the 172 Phase 1 and 172 Cup, the later ones are quite overrated in my view, Trophy excepted (the others feel a little too refined / dull).
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